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July 4, 2022

What Would You Do

What Would You Do

Is Kevin Durant's legacy permanently tarnished after his trade request from the Nets?
Should you bring food for all of your baby mommas' kids or just yours? What would you do?

Topics Discussed:

  • Kevin Durant asking out of Brooklyn
  • Man brings Mcdonalds for his kid, but not the rest of his siblings

Featured Song:
What Would You Do - City High

Referenced Links:
Kevin Durant requests trade from Brookyn Nets (espn.com)

Upset Baby Mama Exposes Baby Daddy For Buying McDonalds For His Son and Not Her Other Kids (blackenterprise.com)

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Transcript
Jeff:

Yo yo yo yo yo thank you for tuning in Episode 101 of the culture your boy Jeff. With my man Ant

Anthony:

I like cat no cat Hate cat love dog KitKat I mean that's

Jeff:

a fruity what the fog is a fruity and edible Now

Anthony:

remember you remember there's a fruity

Jeff:

oh yeah I'm not I'm not big on those

Anthony:

really I got a great one because I forgot I had these because when my niece had a little graduation thing her favorite color was purple so they had like a little candy thing had purpose Rissa grape and our purple grape

Jeff:

great drink liquor is that like a is that like a black bias Women United say black people drink the purple drink or whatever the fuck well are the great the great drink I mean give me the purple stone but you had Cooley before right? Yeah we got some in the fridge right now right? But but you could even have them in the pouches now and Angel fix themselves up

Anthony:

but my whole thing is when you look at the sugar content and she has like 100 grams of sugar I gotta die something but like when when you're I want to say say you're a minority let's say you have lesser means right away during cooling first please describe it by flavor describe it by color. Like Like do you call it you call it cherry cola you call it Rick Cooley's

Jeff:

the right one right,

Anthony:

right, exactly. It's a blue one. So I don't know. I know I've rarely heard someone say you know, almost a cherry Kool Aid. They always say I want red, or purple. Or it's always described by color. Not by you know, taste. Because all it takes is basically you know, lime flavored sugar or cherry flavored sugar. That's it. But purple is great. I mean, I'm not really saying grape like that, but it makes sense. God He's so dreamy

Jeff:

Yeah, he's drinks I should be like it'd be 12 o'clock at night dad let me get the cooler.

Anthony:

Give him water man. I got no problem alright. And try to get as little as ready for kindergarten setting and tweaking out you don't understand why drink water. But that's what it is. It's water with sugar right but but

Jeff:

water without the sugar shit. You haven't I'm flipping off the walls and

Anthony:

shit. I'm telling you. Yo, I'm telling you my savior sick days now that they come get his ass from school all the time. community driven, tweaking out bugging sugar. This sugar that man. I'm gonna one time a little boy had some sugar. I like chocolate cake. In the back of my car. He was tweaking when the day comes in the back of the car. He's like he's bugging the fuck out. It was fantastic. We couldn't get a kid sugar man like cocaine for them.

Jeff:

Yo, shout out to or Patreon aka coach crew. Appreciate your support always. Yo, 101 Man, that's where we got episode. 101 It feels like episode 100 was weeks ago. Oh, she was only a week ago.

Anthony:

I think just you know what it was? It wasn't like a whole lot happening. I think it was kind of time passed. And it feels like you know what it was? I think the weather like or did you go outside yesterday? Yeah, it was hot as hell. Yeah. And like I said, it wasn't like the green hot. It was just muggy and sticky. I'm like, Nah, son. Fuck this. I thought it was like 15 minutes. My fingers are getting soaked inside for me. I don't know how I don't know how to do the beach. I don't understand it. It's saying hi. It is you got to be walking on it.

Jeff:

I'd be having my sandals on I'd be in there with sandals and socks on.

Anthony:

You got to be your booth or he's got the

Jeff:

same looking real looking. Looking real Latino.

Anthony:

Don't be missing the bullets for getting some socks as as racist. Look. You got tired about that? You know, that should really be out there. Getting on the beach like the whole pot. The fuck? I mean, you can't go wrong. Is it gonna be warm? Don't worry about it. Just put this up metal we can be i

Jeff:

But yo, let's get this started because I got a couple of topics I want to discuss man what you got to pitch about. The first one is Kevin Durant. Right. So he requests a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. Right? All right. And he gives the nets a list of teams he wants to go play for and who are the one and two teams on this list the first and second teams on this list.

Anthony:

With Phoenix in Miami. The Phoenix

Jeff:

suns and the Miami Heat who were just so happened to be last year is number one seeds from both conferences. All right. What a bitch. What a bitch. I hate well, but I'm not here to rant about his softness and his bitch no. Hey guys. My question for you is about his legacy. Okay. The rants legacy after requesting a tray from Brooklyn. Does any of this tarnish his legacy? Because remember, he left Oklahoma City to go to the Warriors right to go ring chase after they had just won 73 games. He couldn't beat them in the Western Conference. So he goes joins them win wins a couple rings, hears all the noise about all how soft he is and how pissy he is and all this bullshit because he can't lead a team. So what he does, he's like, alright, he heard the noise because he's always on Twitter talking shit. So he was like, alright, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go and win on my own wasn't technically on his own because he had to go bring his boy carry with them, right? He was like, but I'm gonna do it my way and I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna shut the naysayers down. You know? I mean, I'm gonna go do this. I'm gonna go to Brooklyn. signed a four year deal. Couldn't get past you know that he made it. They won one playoff series in three years. Now this is supposed to be the fourth year he demands a trade. Okay, couldn't win shit. All right. To you and continue. Carmelo Anthony has did more for the city of New York. And his years that he was here with the Knicks then Kyrie and Durant both did combined. Melo took the Knicks to the playoffs multiple years in a row, three or four years took them to the second round. They were sick a second seed one year.

Anthony:

I'm trying to think what you're taking me with this, but okay, come on.

Jeff:

What I'm taking is, I don't want to hear anybody talk to me about the rat being mentioned in the conversation with the greatest of all times with Lebron with Jordan. With Kobe. He's automatically disqualified for his bitch Asness is but okay. I understand that he's, look, I understand that he's one of the best offensive players in the history of the game. Okay. When it comes to being a leader, you're not that okay. You can't lead a team. He's proven that continue. He's mentally solved. Question his mental fortitude.

Anthony:

I like what we're gonna do. I'm gonna shoot all the shit and if they can't

Jeff:

be you can't be mentioned among the grace and have these attributes being weak being mentally weak, being unable to lead a team because remember, although he won MVP and all of that when he was with the Warriors, he's not the leader of that team. We all know that Steph Curry is the leader on and off the court he's the poster child of that team right?

Anthony:

He wanted everyone to find what

Jeff:

you're not I'm saying Yeah. He comes to the to the heat to the net and you're supposed to be the leader this shit and you're letting Kyrie run shit right. You're not the alpha if you're not the alpha then I can't I can't mention you among the Great's of all times. You're automatically disqualify somebody told me shout out to the blog, one of our patriots. And I agree with this. He said that Kevin Durant is the poster child for this era. He said if you put you could put the Rams Harden, Kyrie and LeBron up there and that's your Mount Rushmore of the bitch as players from this era. And I agree with that. Interesting, okay, mentally soft, weak as fuck and players that have to go team up with super teams to go win some shit. Oh, right by him requesting this trade out of Brooklyn. He has solidified that shit.

Anthony:

Because he wants to win.

Jeff:

Then what you mean you signed with them for four years, completed your contractual obligations you and Kyrie should still be able to put together a team to win you know, I mean, but okay, at the first sign of difficulty he wants out the first sign of shit starting. I mean, look difficult. He's gone. What kind of bullshit is that? And that's the only thing I'll give LeBron I'll give LeBron is yeah, he's we teamed up with all the super team. He started the whole super team shit. But he always completes his contractual obligations never request to trades. And he has won a championship whatever team he's played with. And he's been the leader of that team. Yeah, he teamed up with Wade he teamed up with Bosch he teamed up with all these other guys, but we all know who the leader of that team is when he goes to a team and he puts the team together we all know he's the leader of that team. Right? Can you say that about the rat who can lead nobody nowhere?

Anthony:

I mean, he led Okay, he's the Western Conference Finals and then

Jeff:

lots of the warriors and what does he do like a bitch goes and signs with them if you can't beat them join them and then look this is what he tweeted. This is what has asked tweeted yesterday he goes the ones who were locked in that gym with me know what it is they know what I'm about if you haven't been in there with me ask around SHUT THE FUCK UP soft as

Anthony:

okay so you feel that requesting a trade and makes you soft? Can I can I make that it's a combination

Jeff:

of is a combination of all the things he's done since leaving okay seem to fast gonna question it because I don't think we'd be having forcing his way to the Warriors sign in with the with the heat with the nets and then making them switch him and Kyrie combined took over the franchise. They made him get Steve Nash as a coach who's not a coach. They made them trade all the young acids they had low vert, and the Dinwiddie ease and the jarred islands and all the pics that they had on traded they traded away the whole future to try to bring harden in. How did that Workout, then they push harder now, again, then they bring in Simmons. And now poor Simmons is there by himself with the wrong curry. And with Joe Harris,

Anthony:

that's what he's gonna be left with. Again, let me rewind it. Do you think that requesting a trade makes you soft? Because I don't think

Jeff:

in this particular situation it makes it continues to show and prove that the rat is soft. He's not a leader, and he can't win the shit on his own. He can't lead a team

Anthony:

because the situation that you're running into is that you know, people were I mean, everyone loves Kobe. Kobe requested a trade from the Lakers. They just didn't get a chance to pull it off. He wants to go to Chicago but because he's

Jeff:

from there first of all, he's from there second

Anthony:

Chicago was he from from from pa in Italy shit he did that play with the war he played with the 76 you right? They want to we want to get traded but that's gonna see what what a good trade

Jeff:

because he was having a problem because that's what he was having problems with management at the time cooler heads prevailed. They trade a shaggy say he couldn't play with Shaq. They was having a beef and he was like, oh, Trade Me. They ended up trading Phil Jackson and I was like, No, we just want to trade Shaq we see more value in you than we see in Shaq. So they traded Shaq and the rest is history. Kobe went on to win a few more championships without Shaq

Anthony:

you know he asked for the trip asked what happened after they got rejected because normally we're trying to train Chicago and Chicago when the looting and Kobe said no I want to play with Lou dang I don't want to be treated for looting.

Jeff:

But I think you're wrong look it up I think I think I think he requested a trade when he was having his beef with Kobe was shocking he said yeah, we both can't be honest anymore Right? He doesn't have the work ethic that I do he's a fat lazy bum and I don't want to be on his team no more so training and they said no we're gonna trash and check when

Anthony:

the greatest thing of all time yeah right and how many times to check been treated well after the Lakers a bunch of the bunch of sounds like you've been treated before and he's asked for trade and got he got he asked Orlando trigger trade at a different room how but

Jeff:

it's a different story to me. He didn't he's asking to be traded the rat is asking to be traded to the best teams in the league. He doesn't say okay, I'm from Maryland. Let me go to the Washington

Anthony:

how would you do that?

Jeff:

Please just because that's because that's your home team and because you got Bill right you don't know I want to go ring Chase and I'm gonna go play with fucking superstars. I want to go play with DEVIN BOOKER. CP three I want to go play with it. I mean, that's the bitch asanas that never

Anthony:

people like you it's your fault because because y'all put everything upon how many championships you win. You put I

Jeff:

don't you don't I don't some of the greatest players some of my greatest players that I've that I grew up watching don't have rings Patrick warming Charles Barkley I don't hold that should against them right but but I don't hold against it. I know that one of the greatest players I don't hold it against it. No, they didn't win because they didn't go around ring chasing Charles went around ring chasing towards the end of his career. He went into like the rockets and played with like fucking Pippin. And, and fucking when he got guys that were open

Anthony:

to that Phoenix team and they went to Houston. You clicked like in their prom? Kevin's 34 He's not 20 Hey, Kevin, what this is 16 years in,

Jeff:

I can't believe you're defending. I can't believe you're defending his BS. 34 years old.

Anthony:

I'm like, I mean, he's at the tail end of his prom. And the thing is that he wants a chance to win something. He wants to win something but the winter he's at the dinner he went

Jeff:

to the nets knowing that he went to the next team double carry and they had a good squad. He made Nick and if they stay they can still compete if they stay him and Kyrie can still compete right now. If

Anthony:

they stay with the nets, he made a situational error. When he went to Brooklyn, he didn't realize he didn't realize that he was dealing with someone who's not gonna. I'm not gonna call Kyrie crazy. That's dismissive. Some someone who has a an enhanced view of reality, because like I said, when this season's over, he said at the end of the year, me, Kevin, Joe and Shawn are gonna get together figure out the direction of this franchise. I can see the two players but you're talking about the GM and the owner. When I get together to figure out shit, I own this shit. He runs his shit y'all play for this team. The best run organizations is what you kind of build championship trust what a Golden State has been sustainable. Miami sustainable, the walkies sustainable. The coach around it when you got guys openly saying that we're a part of this, like, we're part of the organization and we're gonna make decisions and shit like that. It's gone too far. And like I said, That's management's fault. And that's management's fault. And the other thing is like, why would I want to be somewhere and I'm looking around where you said, like, don't if they stay, you know, that could be championships, carry, obviously want to help because they don't want to ask to be there. And the whole thing is like, I was coming here to try to build a championship team, which we had. James was here, but he was out of shape. And he went to fucking play to try to hit him off to Philly to get Ben and Ben hasn't played a single minute yet, not even the playoffs when we desperately needed him. They had this other guy who now apparently wants out. Why would I want to be here all by my lonesome. Nobody's gonna remember

Jeff:

because because you signed a four year deal. You have one year left, finish your contract. And then you're a free agent you could sign wherever you want in that contract. Don't be a fucking man. What? Oh, okay. You have a contract, bro play it. Oh, and that's again I go back to saying you know, you know I hate LeBron, but I give him that he always completes his contracts and then he moves on you know what I'm saying? He doesn't say all trade me. The Lakers would trash they didn't even make the playoffs he's not even asking for a trade he's like Alright, how can we get Kyrie here? How can we keep improving so I could try to win this year? Yeah, and I'm saying if

Anthony:

that's reductive reasoning now, because everyone keeps saying anything about LeBron like he finished his contract. Oh, LeBron signs one of the ones he wasn't like you signed a five year deals. You signed a one year player one year player after one year player option.

Jeff:

He plays four years with the team season he went to Miami four years moved on to the Cavs four years moved on he's with the Lakers for four years trying to finish off and he's gonna probably go back to Cleveland we're gonna look

Anthony:

at the contract it when he signs like a max contract ever it was always a one on one it was one year and a player option next so if you didn't like it he could leave because didn't next year and do the same thing over and over and he was never locked in. He never locked himself in the biggest thing he never did. And I get what you're trying to say but because he signed contracts like that you're kind of forced to build on his timeline like he I don't know if he's gonna be here or not. We kept you thought he's gonna be there Kevin probably thought he's gonna be there. I signed his four year deal with expecting all this shit to fall in place you know kind of fucked this up so I went out to America question

Jeff:

No no, no you if he fucked it up him and Kyrie fucked it up.

Anthony:

They were the ones running the shit requesting trades I want this guy I want that guy want this coach I want that coach. They should have left the team intact signing Kyrie and Durant. They didn't have to do nothing else. Everybody had a nice team in place. They already had a nice playoff team in place with the center they had everybody the management the manager problem they had the bench because like I said when he signed Kyrie and KD they signed DeAndre Jordan for no good reason just because No, that was the man and then let him go a year later. This is what happens when you happen to let players run those franchises and I'm all for player empowerment but like I said you don't have a strong organization the organization is weak they got no proper for who sought after Josiah not being it was kind of hands off leaving in the hands of a team that you know Shawn marks is good Jim but you kind of held captive by these two guys because you know if you put them together you probably got a shot a championship but they never even really played together. Like I said everything kind of fell apart and is a reason for me to stick around here this is a hopeless situation James got traded away Ben Amon plan carry you don't want to take a shot it's just me I hit hoop and you know what else wanted to eat and carbon funded last year because of fucking KD not because not because of anybody else. They were literally a totally what toenail off because of him. And that's why he wants to be out because I like I know. I can win I know I can do this actually something function around me this shit here is not working. You take your job, right? Let's say you find a job that's similar to what your job they pay you twice as much. With twice as many vacation days. Are you staying and going?

Jeff:

I'm probably going but this has nothing to do with him. He's gonna get his money. This is about him. He needed to go play around with other sauce to win because he can't leave. He's not

Anthony:

a lead once a better opportunity. It doesn't give a shit about being a leader. And not only and that's fine,

Jeff:

and that's fine. And that's great. That's dandy, but don't mention him ever again to me among two Jordans amongst a Kobe Brian's amongst the goats of all time. Like to me your mental fortitude goes into play when I'm thinking about right who are the best of all time and everybody of course as Jordan, some people say LeBron has said that. I'm taking everything into account your play on the core, but you're also your mental toughness, your fortitude, you're not I'm saying whether you was rink Chaisson or whether you was a leader like Greek freak he's a leader to me I'm already putting him I'm already ready prepared to put him amongst the Great's of all time. You know, I'm saying just because he's been a leader, he stayed with his one team. He's like, I'm not gonna go ring Chase, bro. You're gonna build around me and I'm gonna try to win here. He did that. Yeah, but you gotta you mentioned Kevin Durant. He's not a leader on or off the court. He never you know, I'm saying he doesn't say the right shit. He needs to say he can't lead Come on. You can't win with Kyrie bro. No, you can't. You have to go play you have to go play with Klay Thompson Draymond Green and Steph Curry three all stars, who just want again without him. He needed to go to them to win. Then he leaves and I'm I'll show you I'll prove everybody that I could do this. Outside of here. And then he can't. He just regrets leaving Golden State. And when whenever he goes if they if he goes to the suns if he goes to the he guess what? They're not going to win. It's going to take a massive haul to get you know the nets are not just going to give them away for nothing. They're going to tray, they're going to need a big pack. Which is going to which is going to cripple the other toaster the phones they can win with him CP three and Booker. The nets act for Booker right off the bat is going on now. So yeah, but Yeah, him CP three and Booker. Yeah, that could be a real formidable threat. But again, the question for this segment is does all of this tarnish his legacy? At the end of the day when he's retired, and we're all talking about the ghosts of all time? Is he going to be put up there? Like we're going to recognize that he's one of the best offensive players But all around in the goats top five discussion. Are they gonna be mentioning Kevin Durant? Because

Anthony:

even before this had never worked okay, so if you have the top five right now right? Let's say let's say it's Jordan, magic bird, LeBron Kobe

Jeff:

no matter what you could take our bird I think me and you agree that we could take our bird

Anthony:

sorry so let's let's take our bird in the seat let's put in Russell Okay, let's put him to rest I could put in Russell I could put in LeBron, he said LeBron, Kobe. Well, magic Okay, LeBron Kobe matched Michael Russell. No matter what Kevin did the rest of his career he was never going to break that glass ceiling anywhere. It didn't matter that there's nothing he could have done unless he ran out for free champs and a letter in his life to have that happen. It was He was never going to break that glass ceiling. That's too high. If you still want the greatest offensive players I've ever seen, he might be the best offensive player I've ever seen. He's unguardable seven foot guys that can shoot and dribble like that just don't exist on this planet. It's a notch below that it probably it might make them a notch or two below that but that's the last like, that's the top of the top that's like way out of here. And I mean as much as I love Kevin he was never going to reach that. And old people don't really worry about legacies but people who speak on barbershops and on TV shows most people don't really care it's good to have like a compensation wise but we put it to like the grass roots of it I mean, Kevin's always gonna be a great player he's always been mentioned somewhere in the top 1520 whatever and he will never break into the top five I'm not certain the only person that maybe has a shot at break into the top five now might be Steph

Jeff:

yeah oh yeah, I think he's there ready he's gonna go down as the best point guard of all time

Anthony:

God knows the best shooter is by shooting wait you know hey stop he's already the best shooter of all time he is he died at that point. All the three point records okay he's not at this point guard our time please stop that

Jeff:

he he's gonna be up there and assists he's gonna probably finish his career top three top five in the system full time job

Anthony:

you don't have to do this people like you don't do this as much like stuff there's there's no fucking way and there's no way in the world he's better he's ever going to be better than Magic Johnson Don't people like you

Jeff:

okay, but you can name me all right but you can't name me five point Gods better than him he's gonna probably be go down as top three of all times

Anthony:

Yeah, but you said the best plug I never said no. Don't do that.

Jeff:

Well statistically he's gonna be he's gonna have all the better numbers all time better numbers and magic if magic is your number one he's gonna have better numbers than him

Anthony:

if he doesn't already one time different pace different game.

Jeff:

Okay, but we can say that about anybody again but

Anthony:

you're not gonna find a six for nine point guards to get a triple double

Jeff:

you know I'm saying you put you put Bill Russell on your top and a lot of people argue Oh, look we had around him look at the era Listen now who was he playing against? He had like three all the Hall of Famers on the team. Of course he won so many rings. You know you can make a case and an argument for everybody any anybody that you put up on the list is going to have an explanation or rebuttal But Michael Well, yeah, well the Lebron stands will tell you like Oh, you didn't play all the super teams.

Anthony:

six to six don't matter at six. Never. He got there he closed down LeBron. LeBron with what nine treat everybody he never even played a games. He never even played a game seven. Like I said, I understand that but that's what makes Michael Michael when finals time. You might give him a hard time but I wasn't beating the bulls. That didn't happen. LeBron didn't run as well for for 10 More than 10 times. Yeah.

Jeff:

He's been eight 910 times. I think it might be four in a row again with the with the heat and another four with the calves and the one with the calves when he first started and then the one with the legs. So he's one four and he's been there 10 times and that's what that's not a good way to put

Anthony:

it. That's what put LeBron in the top five that you carry that dog should as Cleveland team to that finals. That's why so let's see what so he has played in the NBA Finals 10 times. As 18 seasons. That's that's a lie. That's just that's, I'm sorry, that's a sign of greatness. Yeah,

Jeff:

don't take that away from them. I don't take that away from him. But look at all the Hall of Famers he played with and that's the argument I make against him being you know, a goat over over. Yeah, he played a lot of all the famous Wade and

Anthony:

Bosh. Both Kahaluu that's it.

Jeff:

Westbrook Hall of Famer. You only get Carmelo Anthony, the Hall of Fame Hey, I'm just giving you a Hall of Famers man Dwight Howard, the Hall of Fame give me end of career in the career White House it don't matter. You're currently Hall of Famer.

Anthony:

You dispute an argument you may

Jeff:

go he played. He played with Kyrie in his prime he played one of and loving out of it and one correct.

Anthony:

Might be going to Hall of Fame. I don't hold him kind of lackey probably anybody. I could be in a hall of fame. It

Jeff:

depends what the NBA is not even just what you did with the basketball. They count they count what you did in college, they count what you did overseas. That's why there's a lot of overseas play. It's

Anthony:

amazing. You know, that made me think because of that carried on like the Hall of Fame. He really should not.

Jeff:

Really respirator is going to make it just just on those on the strength of all his Triple doubles you know what you just had triple doubles three years in a row average

Anthony:

on bad teams when people will definitely be able to triple double for you like what was the record? Exactly they didn't win shit. You start chasing when nobody does that.

Jeff:

So before we move on though before we move on the rants legacy, has it taken a hit every time you pull some big shit like this does it take a hit?

Anthony:

Like, we all hate the Lebron after he did. That shit would have bought them to throw me shit, right when he did let me do that. We all hated LeBron. When he left. They all hated LeBron when he went back to Cleveland. Still guys in the top five, because no matter what you're doing, regardless, move around your team, your game and your play speaks for itself, like the guy had been in 10 finals in 18 years. I'm not gonna deny that man's legacy. What I'm saying about Kevin Durant is that even though he moved from team to team, and even though he had unfortunate circumstances, it still doesn't diminish him as a player doesn't make him any less. It might might make you more opinionated about him. Sure, because he seems to be a bit emotional see some random ass things on the internet. But like I said, he's still going to be top 20 No matter even if he stays where he goes. It doesn't matter. Like I said, they're trying to move him. There's no deal setting board yet. Does this whole conversation change? If he stays in Brooklyn? You know who requested a trade? Because Carvey still there, he requested a trade and they're able to do something to actually win. Does it change your opinion? Let's let's say like now, you know, what? Wouldn't I say? You know what, fuck this. We signed you to a 40 day you must pull up a chair or does not play at all. And carry. I know you requested the trigger pack freezing next year. And Ben, I'd like to get us off the bench. Now, if they all happen to stay, and they all happen to play and they all happen to win. Does it change your opinion of Kevin Durant? A little bit? Yes. So the state,

Jeff:

if he says, You know what if he says, You know what, fine, I'm gonna stick it out. And I'm gonna play and I'm gonna fulfill my contractual obligation. And I'm gonna try to make the best of it. And he takes the nets far. Yeah, I'll respect them a little bit more. And I'll respect them way more than him saying, You know what, give me the hell out of here. I want to go to one of the best teams in the league again, because that's the only way I know how to win if if they

Anthony:

didn't want to leave. They got smoked by Dallas. I thought I put up a fight. Yeah, but come

Jeff:

on, you know Kevin Durant on the heat, or you put Kevin Durant on the suns they automatically become the favorites to win the shipbroker that's the

Anthony:

whole thing he put Kevin Durant in the Brooklyn they became the favorites that didn't work out too well either.

Jeff:

Because he's not a leader. And when he goes to these other teams, they already have leaders in place. He's not going to be the leader with the sun everyone like not

Anthony:

like that, like you really want everyone to be or you can be like I really want to know I like I'm asking like do you ever want like beat or you can be like this leadership out fuck out of here. Because every every team has a built in lead it like it might. Okay, he goes the feelings they were gonna have a leader there. It's not Chris because CP three is the leader. CP three is a leader Chris Chris 30. Magnesium. So how Chris Hogan could the leaves no matter leaders private DEVIN BOOKER. He's not ready yet. And the leader Miami is Jimmy Butler and the whole thing with Jim is he's all grit and GRISTLE but then winch it

Jeff:

but they made a fall they were the first seat but you gotta give him credit for that. Oh,

Anthony:

motherfucker. I don't believe his second just the first loser. No one cares. Who lost in the finals this year.

Jeff:

Oh, it was the Warriors defeated.

Anthony:

Before they even be exactly Yeah, think about it. Do you remember what he had to think about it? Oh, the Celtics? You had to think about it no one cares about ice gritty team played great detail and cares about sec awesome young player who cares about second you want to win? You just want to win this thing, whatever he wants to win. And like I say he's even talking about Kevin go into the Celtics. You imagine that? They're trying to think Jaylen Brown. But there's a whole thing of like, wherever Kevin goes, Kevin has a notary close. Yes, agreed to everyone's go this way. Give him a list. See, Carrie gave a list. They gave

Jeff:

this man too much. They gave this man too much power. But you got a no trade clause we're giving you whatever coach you want. Whatever players you want us to bring a head at some bullshit. And that's another argument that I make with these kids about Jordan. Because even the GM of the bulls set it on the documentary that not once not one single time to Jordan come up to him and say I want this guy. I want that guy. You should train for this guy. No, you do your job. I'm gonna do my job on the court and you build and I trust that you'll build around me and that's it. That's what a leader does. That's what the mamba mentality does. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna go complain to you about I want to play with this guy. I want to play with that guy. I'm just saying, if that's where you are. That's fine. You said but don't talk to me about the greatest of all times. Don't talk to me about goats. Don't talk to me about none of that shit when you were soft pussy, as you heard, and I'm ready

Anthony:

to move on. I'm totally documented right? In Do you know why he created the whole Mamba mentality. Because after the whole rape shit, he had a bigger clear separation between Kobe and the guy in the corner. Literally, that's why I said it's like it's like a miracle. It has to be this guy can't be that guy in the court. And everyone's always talking about No, I got this Mamba mentality. I really, really I hate when people say that and I don't hate much. Because the truth of the matter is it requires a particular level of dedication and willpower. None of these motherfuckers have not a single soul. They It wants to I would have to go home but I wouldn't be like, Oh no, no. Kobe was completely like he was obsessed with this. He was obsessed with winning. He was obsessed with basketball, y'all and obsessed with shit. And everyone's humble. You know, I want to be like Kobe have a moment I know you don't. I don't see you just talking about basketball. Believe it or not the guy close to the mob mentality is Kevin Durant because all he gives a fuck about is basketball. Nothing else. You know, Kevin might mention some little shit about life and so on and so forth like that and wax poetic but really all Kevin want to do is to the last week he sent us some poetic shit about him being a gym cuz that's what he always is. All he cares about. Is basketball. All it cares about is winning. Everyone else cares about what I lift some weights. Why is there not it's too late now. Everyone cares why it's like the fuel. Yeah, definitely. It's a weird thing. Because because he's so tall. He's so funny. He's actually 20 or 40 pounds. Skinny do the boat is proportional. But the thing what a guy like that is like, all he ever cared about was playing all together cared about someone. And the thing is that it was it was really successful when he was with OKC. Because at that time, it was so early and it was winning. We're just playing it was hooping, good. But once the money got involved, this nigga want to get paid, that my father won't get paid this one to lead that one. It went back and forth, back and forth. And you know what? If the man had deleted the man at least that'll mean he's not a talented don't me. He's not accomplished. He's both. It has happened to me may not be the best of the best of the leaders may not be the greatest general, when he's a damn good, Sergeant. I put it that way. And I'm not gonna argue about the fact that I'm worried about Kevin Durant, I think Kevin's gonna be just fine. If he didn't want him in Brooklyn, or he wants him in Phoenix, he gonna be just fine. But the thing about is that the only person who really cares about Kevin Durant's legacy is everybody else, the one person that really really don't see him.

Jeff:

Let's take a quick break, man when we come back, should he have bought McDonald's for all her kids? Most people probably already know what I'm talking about. We'll get into when we come back.

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Jeff:

represent a culture to represent like the culture podcast. Yo, so should he have bought McDonald's for her kids? Everybody knows about the video that went viral. With a chick is recording her baby day one of her baby daddy shows up with a bag of McDonald's for his one kid, right. And this is a woman who has you know, I'm not sure if it was three or four kids. She has several kids from different fathers. And the father of one of her kids shows up with the McDonald's bag for his one kid, right? And she's recording the whole thing and she's like getting on him like, Yo, why wouldn't you have brought food for everybody? And he's like, Yo, I'm only worried about my kid, you know, and worrying about all your other kids. And it'd became a whole thing and went viral and people are giving their opinions back and forth. I'm curious to hear your take. I'm gonna give you my opinion. My opinion is this. And I can see both sides because she was really irate. You know, I'm saying he was basically saying fuck your kids. I'm only wearing about mine.

Anthony:

Before you go forward. You do. It was a fake right. It was what? It was fake. It was a fake. Yes.

Jeff:

So she don't even got kids. She don't got a bunch of kids.

Anthony:

Now what was the story then?

Jeff:

They did it. Because the conversations, this conversation still needs to be had

Anthony:

they did it right. They did it to go viral to have the conversation because you didn't find a word that you did this. And the whole time you seen a video the guy's face has never shown.

Jeff:

Hmm, that's this this heartache.

Anthony:

I'm gonna keep talking, I'm going to Google right now sick and save viral.

Jeff:

They did a good job, then. They did a good job. They fooled me, they did a good job. They went viral. They got everybody talking about it, but it probably makes it look bad, it probably makes him look bad. And I'll tell you why. Because I can see both sides. You're now responsible for all the other kids that your ex girlfriend, your ex wife or your ex baby mama has right? You shouldn't be obligated to be responsible for them. But as a man, because this ain't even a black or white thing. This is a color thing as a man in America. And because the way I am, I would have personally showed up with food for everybody. You know what I'm saying? I probably would have, you know, you could call me stupid. I probably would have got some to like, yeah, what you want them and McDonald's. You want a burger. Okay, cool. I'm gonna bring happy meals for kids.

Anthony:

Hold on, hold on. Hold that thought before you go any further. I know you're happily married. So let's go ahead and Rwanda, let me ask a very particular question. Would you date a woman with three kids?

Jeff:

The most I've dated is a woman with two kids. And it was a lot for me. At the time I was younger. And I told myself, I probably wouldn't do that again. Okay, because no disrespect to women to have kids, especially women to have kids for multiple different you know, saying, women I am I'm not judging shit. I'm just not judging. I'm just saying I dated women. I dated I dated women that had kids, I dated women that had multiple kids. And I've also dated women that have multiple kids from different fathers. Okay, a lot. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot to deal with, from for a lot of different reasons. And I told myself, I wouldn't do it again. Okay, and obviously, you get older, you mature, you start seeing life differently. You know, I mean, okay, in this situation, I'm gonna go visit my kid. I know he has a bunch of other siblings. I'm probably just because I feel in my heart, that is the right thing to do. I'm probably not going to show up with just one bag of McDonald's just for him while all the other kids just stare at him watching the shit, right? I would have shown up with food for all of them. You can agree or disagree, you can give me your take. I can see both sides of the story. I can see like him saying like, Look, man, I'm not responsible for your other kids. Go Go get at their baby daddies if they don't give you money for their food or whatever, that's, that's on you. And that's on them. I'm only responsible for my child. I'm taking care of my child, I can see and I can understand that that side of it. But as a man, I think this is a moral issue. I think this is an ethics issue. I think this is I would have showed up with food for all of them. I'm gonna hear your take on it.

Anthony:

I don't owe them cute shit. I'm sorry. Like I said, because this the question stuff isn't necessarily a sociological question. It's a question that you pose it to kind of see that and understand where someone might be coming from. And I can see and I can answer this question from any angle you want to because I can see it clearly from all angles. You think in a sense of responsibility and a sense of humanity. If I know that you deal with the other children, I should probably get something for the child. And for them. And for you. If I'm being cynical, I'm only getting some from my child. Because in reality, I don't like you got other little kids. I don't know who the kids are. Daddy says I don't know if they got algae some shit. What's like, well, if I bought him a half mil and one of the little things died, because I tried to be nice to you, to me running

Jeff:

a mess from a happy meal. Now,

Anthony:

people have fucking they even saying the thing like if you have peanut allergy, Yatta, yatta yatta yatta because it couldn't peanut oil. So let's say one of them died, she told me, I said, I'm gonna say this might be a little bit fucked up. You gotta kind of see from always, the truth of the matter is, I made this chart with you, and we're taking care of the child together. And I guess, if I'm going to be honest about the mistake that he made, is that he should have just picked up the kid, the kid the McDonald's and not worried about the others. It saves your life. Like I'm only worried about my child. The only reason I'm doing this for the other kids is just to make sure that like in the greater scheme of things. When I look around at it, I seem like I'm a good guy. And I'm really looking out for everybody, in real reality only have the interest of my child in mind. And my child's happiness comes first because even if those other kids are his siblings, I still want my kid to be happy and if they're enjoyable, okay, now if we're doing something for all of us are together, different story. Yes, absolutely. We can all get together and do it. But if like if I know that I'm doing something my kid should probably just like slightly to him

Jeff:

on the low. You made a valid argument and I'm going to retract my previous statement I'm gonna, I'm gonna say that that's probably what I would have done. Now that I'm thinking about it. That's probably what I'm gonna I'm gonna hit y'all. I'm picking up my son. Cool, make sure he's ready me outside, whatever. And then I would have taken him myself to McDonald's. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, that's the more logical shit. That's a shit that would have made more sense. Instead of showing up with a bag of McDonald's for him to eat in front of his siblings. I would have I would have picked them

Anthony:

hungry let you guys hear McDonald's your daddy broke my fucker I am but let me get let me get my sausage this burger sauce softly beach please let me skip some of this.

Jeff:

Let me sip some of his nice Coca Cola.

Anthony:

Orange ice look at today I got 80 cubes of ice which are eating which are eating frozen chicken dinners. Ask your daddy don't love you.

Jeff:

Let's go Papa she because she was making it sound like they was broken like the other kids was just starving water. One kid was eaten and they faced type shit. So you're right, I would have picked them up taking them myself and and drop them back off whenever like, you know, I mean, that would have been the more logical shit to do.

Anthony:

Yeah, go ahead. And like it's, it's a convoluted kind of thing because like, a lot of people are putting their ideas and thoughts into them like, well, he should read those kids because he's doing the right thing. And he's doing being chivalrous and being smart about it. And just being a good old gentleman. Like I bought food for kids before. i It doesn't like it's not a big thing to me. In all honesty, it's like it's not a it's not it's not issue like people are making it an issue. Like it's for what it shouldn't be seen as as McDonald's anyway, it's terrible for kids, but people love them. But whatever. The second thing is like I guess it's not necessarily that it's the fact that her reaction like she's going off on him. Oh, my whole up now. This is okay. And you rant and rave in front of him. I'm trying to make sure that you know, the kids are right. And you are gonna asshole. And like I said, he kind of solved this whole problem for you just like ask certain questions. Like, no as mad. I'm like, don't ask no question. Just say I'm on my way to get him. Like cool. New when he gets in the car, like, are you hungry? Yes. Then you go. But when you call him there, one bag, and then the others. Because my thing is like, if you bring that one back, and there's two other kids there, right? Do I give them like, like, let's say I bring more food for like everybody. And like when other like, like, dads come? Do you like give them receipts? So they get like, busted down for the kids like I bought it. But I get reimbursed by y'all like, like, like, I'm trying to figure out the math on it. Because Because I'm going to be like, you're going to ask certain questions that you don't necessarily feel comfortable asking. But if it continues to occur, you're going to ask it like, when they come? Do they bring food? Or when they come? Do they just bring it for their kid? Because it's questions that I don't really want to have the answer to but you're ranting and raving yelling at me about this one thing. I want to know how you handle this unit, like in totality. Because it's something seems a bit you know, off here, because if I give you the food is perfectly fine. Like I think it's right to feed children. I mean, I think it'd be a cruel Bassett if you don't, but the truth really comes down to the fact like, if you're really going to yell at me about this, I really want to know how those other children are being treated. If, if this is the treatment, you wanted to give all those children when I'm around, when the other fathers come around, and my child is there, I want to make sure that they get the same exact kind of treatment. I don't want to feel like my child a slave, like if they come and they feed their kids. And then when I come I feed everybody that's going to be an issue to me. So again, to avoid all of the above. Pick your kid up. Get in the car. He wants to McDonald's. Cool let's go or if you ask him like oh no, I earlier perfect. So I got to do this turn this came a nothing burger. I did nothing.

Jeff:

Yeah, so I guess that's that's one way of looking at it. And that's the most now that I think about it like I said just the most logical shit. I don't know if that video was fake or not, but the conversation is not fake. You know, obviously the clip went viral. And the conversation is viral and I felt like we had to have it because the question should he have brought food for everybody? Yes or no?

Anthony:

Yes with without a yes with Astrid with an asterisk next big star next to it with a north star next to it. Could you do it? Could you have got the kit? Could you did it yet? You should have Yeah, but I mean like it comes down to like, understanding like what am I supposed to be responsible? Like, am I supposed to be responsible for all of you kids? And the thing is like when she got the food she threw it away.

Jeff:

That's the major part. She She threw the shit away. That's disrespect. Whoa. That's disrespectful. like, Yo, I remember growing up, like my dad wouldn't allow food to be wasted or thrown out like he was real serious about this shit. And he would always tell me that you notice people in other countries right now that would break your arm for that for you trying to like waste right now. They will kill you for that food boy.

Anthony:

No parents wasting food is a crime. They're trying to get to cheat. You better you better eat them. Brussel sprouts. And kids in Africa will love them. Brussel sprouts no the end. Nobody noticed kids in

Jeff:

Somalia. You notice kids in Somalia right now, Ethiopia right now. That will rip that food out your hands.

Anthony:

Nobody wants that to that shit and spit it out. Like it sucks for them to don't think just because I'm hungry as fuck me. They're going to eat anything. No, I don't want to shit.

Jeff:

But I started discussion like on Facebook. And like, you know, I mean, I was telling people commenting. And like I said it was it was split. It was like a literally like a 5050 split. Some people were like, Oh, he, he's not responsible for them. Other kids. And some people are like, Oh, he should have did the right thing. And my deal was, yeah, I would have brought food for everybody. But hearing you talk like, yeah, now I'm thinking I would have just picked up my kid. Yeah, and then drop them back off on a full stomach. And she worry about feeding everybody else, you know, I'm

Anthony:

saying, like, if I'm going to roll with the assumption that they're not together, if you're together with the person, you're kind of accepting everybody. But it's I hate the term a package deal. But it's all one unit, you take everything and compensate children included. If you're not together, but you share a child, that is our connection, not them this. And I understand that. And the thing is that the only way you're going to feed them kids is really out of the kindness of your heart, there's really no other good reason for you to do so. Seriously. Don't do that. Because it creates kind of a slippery slope kind of thing. Because like, okay, so if you're saying, If I do this for him, for our child, let's just do this for the other children, understanding that the siblings, but the only connection between you and me is our sheer child. So does that mean, when I take my child shopping, I stick those kids shopping. Or if I buy my child clothes, I should buy those kids clothes. Now, people might say like, that's not the same argument. What I'm trying to get across is that the connection itself is between the the child and the parent. And the parents are so reliant on single, between the child of the parents, when you were together, you took care of them all to take care of them all the unit. Now she's not together, I'm only worried about this one other life that gotta be concerned about really more than anything else. Because it doesn't really necessarily make sense to me, because it's really just kind of out food. But it's kind of becoming something bigger, where it kind of understand like, what parental rights really are. The welfare of children, the responsibilities of adults, together versus the response from the adults, like via dating, and all different but like I said, you kind of eliminate the whole thing. If you just don't show your ass up with McDonald's. If you just take the kid to McDonald's later, you don't have this issue. We don't have a segment. There is no video. This is what occurs in the end. But the fact that he did it and it became something else, and it created a topic of conversation, which is fine. I'm glad that it did. But if I'm going to think about it the way I do, that's why I came up with an answer so quickly, because I'm always gonna look at it logically, logically, if I'm not really worried about them on the real worry about this one over here. I need to take care of this one and just have to be in the presence of them just to make sure that that one's taking care of. You know what it is. It's like, imagine taking your son to like let's say you take him to a pizza party. But the pizza This sucks. Now he's entitled to get pizza. But he doesn't want to eat the pizza because it's just it's that bullshit brick pizza. I don't know why I was gonna have a piece of hardware but they did. They had a pizza party for kids with what? Middle School brick cheese pizza. It sucks. Nobody wants to eat it. He doesn't want to eat it so on so forth. You get in the car. And you leave. Do you ask your son Do you want to get something eat? Are you just like well, you were here already should eat. What do you do? He better eat that pizza

Jeff:

man. Really? Even if his shit is gonna have to eat the pizza. He's gonna have to eat the pizza bro.

Anthony:

What if the pizzas shit

Jeff:

and have to just try to eat one. But you can. You can you can get a good one afterwards afterwards. afterwards. I'll get him some

Anthony:

right then no, not during but afterwards. Right Right, right. Yeah, give them some afterwards. So I don't know. That's the problem with the video itself because I don't I'm only good On Off from whatever information that I have here, I don't know how long he was, he was there was together. I don't know how long those kids were there. I don't know how many hours, whatever. I'm going off by the context that I have here the context of the half years like, you break it in your life a lot easier just to just pick the kid up and didn't get the shit later. Because right now, I don't know, anything like that, like that kid could have actually been fit already. And the moment he pulled it wasn't McDonald's, like, he already ate, and she's mad, but, but she only brought McDonald's for the kid and like, then she throws it away or whatever the fuck. It's tricky. So I mean, you feel that? Now the idea that you would no bring food for the sake of bringing food? Would you do that? If that was your partner? Or would you? Which which case you're likely more to do it if it's your partner? Or if it's your ex?

Jeff:

If it's your partner,

Anthony:

right? So bring the food right. So but Sophie Sharon, a kid, and she got other kids, you bring her Who are we together? Your that's your ex, you just happen to share a kid?

Jeff:

No, if not together, and like I said, I'm gonna probably bring food for everybody. If we're not together. Must stance change? Because like I said, I would just pick my kid up. Right? Because I'm gonna get food and then drop them

Anthony:

off, right? Because when you were together, you're a unit. But when you're not just the kid, that's the kind of connecting between you two, right? Yeah, right. So. So what's the moral of the story? Don't bring food to your kid around other kids.

Jeff:

If you don't have intentions of feeding them all,

Anthony:

you know, it's okay. When you're around other kids. It's like, there are certain circumstances where it just kind of makes sense. Like, let's say you're picking up your kid, and all of a sudden an ice cream truck pulls up and other kids today like okay, I'll get you and the kids here. Fucking, who wants to come? Right? Okay,

Jeff:

you know what we also don't know. We also don't know if the dude is broke himself, and he can't even afford to buy shit for everybody else. So in that case, the moral of the story is make sure you pick up your kid and take them if you only have intentions of buying for one. Or if you can only afford for one, then just take that one. Don't come around everybody with one bag.

Anthony:

But if he was broke, how was the big house we were here with had three other kids. They're not together as well. We are so but once upon a time they were right, right. And it didn't work out. Right, whatever. Because he was broke when he had four kids whose Brooklyn headquarters fuck, the lessons we learned is don't be broke. Don't don't work outside your means brother. Like, look, if you can't, you can barely afford this kid. If you run it up with me to McDonald's in the small bag, not even half mil box, you got it in the bag. So this life is a struggle for you. You need to take some time with all this to focus on yourself. Get your kids to McDonald's on the lows, you got to do no bullshit like this. But stop being broke. That's the moral of the story. Don't be poor. They're wrong, being poor as long and trying to work your way out of it. And his whole problem is I broke it. I mean, broke is the state of mind, you can always do something better to improve your financial status one way or another legally, that doesn't mean doing anything illegal legally, you can absolutely can't. But whole thing with this situation is we're going off a particular context for a very particular video clip from that has caused this big ruckus where you're basically making people pull out and draw out opinions when you really don't have an answer yet, because you don't really understand the complete dynamics of everything. I don't. I'm only going by what I see from what I see is like well, she probably shouldn't throw the food away but more like depression, just depression to see to see that McDonald's to later. Like say you said him being broke. But the whole problem is like if I'm broke, like what you shouldn't be dating a woman with with a bunch of kids if you're broke or used to be or whatever. Right? That's all and you know, sorry, Robert. They gave me 30 years peace my guy.

Jeff:

Oh, Robert Kelly. 30 years Fuck him. Don't drop the soap, buddy.

Anthony:

You're gonna be singing everybody birthday song for next 30 is my wife's birthday today. Get on the mic, Robert.

Jeff:

Turns out AJ nothing but a number is not really true.

Anthony:

No, that number is 30. It's very specific. Yo number

Jeff:

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