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Unity, Equality, and Diversity

Unity, Equality, and Diversity

Female appreciation month continues on The Culture. In this episode Jeff and Ant shout out all the female MCs they omitted from their top list and they channel Queen Latifah's U.N.I.T.Y. while discussing Kyrie Irving, Jon Gruden, and Dave Chappelle.

Topics Discussed:

  • Jeff's R. Kelly rant
  • Kyrie Irving
  • Female MCs
  • Jon Gruden 
  • Dave Chappelle
  • The LGBTQ+ community 
  • Gay Superman?
  • Ghetto Word

Featured Song: U.N.I.T.Y. - Queen Latifah 

Ghetto Word of the Week: Jit
Urban Dictionary: jit

Referenced Link:
Jon Gruden Resigns After Homophobic and Mysogynistic Comments - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

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Transcript
Jeff:

U.N.I.T.Y, you got to let them know ..this your boy, your host with the most. And as always, I'm accompanied by my main man pots and pans. One sir Anthony Austin Jr. He likes it

Anthony:

real weird. It's really weird you let him with you and it why when should we gonna talk about some real non unity shit? But

Jeff:

no, because this week's theme is about unity, inclusion, diversity in the workplace or otherwise, in everyday life, you know what I'm saying? I mean, there hasn't been too much on fish,

Anthony:

which is just words but

Jeff:

you know, and this is a couple of topics in particular that I want to discuss with you but we'll get to that. As we continue, you know, women APPRECIATION MONTH here on lachelle Dora Berg Welcome to another episode of the culture man Episode 65. I just have one thing to get off my chest if you will. If you don't mind. Dog, it goes in the button. Go ahead. Before we get into our real topics, I don't want to spend too much time on this but I just sign has been I just got to get it off my chest and bothered me for like literally a couple of weeks now. And I was gonna take to both social media and just write this long ass paragraph. But I was like, You know what, I have a platform. Just let me use it. You know what I mean? vent out a little bit. And I addressed this with you. Not too long ago over the phone. I seen a lot of people in particularly on Facebook. They've been posting shit. basically trying to justify our Kelly right or Kelly's actions as shit. what they've been doing is they've been comparing his situation with like Elvis Presley. And with Woody Allen. Woody Allen, you know, married his young adopted daughter, Elvis Presley married Priscilla. And she was about 14 or 15 at the time. Granted, this is back in the day and this is this was a different time. But people are saying you know why Elvis could get away with what he did? Why would he Allen could get away with what he did. But but not our Kelly. It's not the fucking same. Okay. What Woody Allen marrying his adopted daughter Elvis Presley marrying an underage Priscilla. Are those things unethical? Yeah, maybe. Are those things immoral? Yes. Or maybe even gross. But guess what? They weren't illegal. They weren't illegal. We're not getting on our Kelly for marrying Aaliyah. When she was underage. nobody's getting on him for that. Even though back then. You know, this was over 20 years ago. We knew he liked the young kids. But we wasn't getting on him for that because that wasn't illegal to marry somebody. Their parents consent. it's legal. I'm tired of seeing people trying to justify our Kelly's shit. By comparing it to Elvis or Woody Allen. It is not the fucking same. Okay. What are Kelly did where he got arrested for was illegal activities, raping underage women, keeping them hostage against their will some of them supposedly, the evidence was there to back it up that he was involved in all types of illegal shit. So I don't want to I'm tired of this shit. And that's why I just wanted to get that out. You can feel free to chime in. I was just getting real upset cuz I kept seeing people and there's multiple times for the last two or three weeks I kept seeing people posting on Facebook. Oh, how come are Kelly going to jail? What not Elvis or not Woody Allen because what they did was not illegal. All the shit our Kelly was found guilty of was illegal. That's it.

Anthony:

I don't even know why they're wasting their breath. And this is man going to prison because I don't want to prison for a very long fucking time. Like, I don't think if you're like me one little letter campaign together or start on like a signatures calm, whatever may be going to reverse that charge. The man is found guilty by a judge and jury. All evidence was put forward. Again. Like I said he's on trial for his life. I mean, he could have easily gone to ban taking the stand. Never did it. If I'm innocent, I'm damn sure gonna go up there and just plead my case and tell him what I did and did not do it. None of the above. But the evidence stand for itself. We found a man guilty. He got to be sentenced to prison for a very long time. Whatever your feelings may be in regards to what he has in regards to his music. None of that matters. A crime was committed. You're going to jail for it. That's all there is to it. is the kind of thing people are still trying to shoot Bill Cosby bill. Let me make sure I make this clear to people. Bill Cosby was not railroaded by the system. Bill Cosby was set free on a technicality. Bill Cosby admitted to the crime that he did, but signed an agreement with a past district attorney saying that he will not be charged his crimes in the future. He got charged with those crimes and got arrested for those crimes he got convicted of those crimes but because of what he signed before he was gonna be left free Amen So don't be out here defending the don't beat people are not your heroes do not defend them they are from what the situation says they are criminals period that's it Let it be don't freak out about it

Jeff:

all right but let's continue with our women's month on the culture last week we did our list of top female rappers of all time and I got some shift for leaving off Missy you know what I mean it's all good but I you know there's a bunch of other women or women that we left off and some people brought into it I just wanted to give a shout out to all the women that me and you both left off okay may or may not in I mean deserve to be on the list but I just want to go shout out the brat we left off the brat this argument Yeah. Snow the product A lot of people don't know she's real underground. She's real nice though. She's real dope Mexican.

Anthony:

shorty there's an argument but not worthy enough to be on top. But she's real nice. Can we agree to she's nice? lyrically did but that's why i said i was i was doing five wasn't doing I've mentioned that before I kind of go on

Jeff:

for a while so we left off Foxy and we can both argue that she can write home lyrics so that's that's one of the reasons why she's she's often mine.

Anthony:

I wouldn't even argue the whole write the lyrics kind of thing. I think it kind of follows the whole Lauryn Hill trap, there was a period of time where she was on fire. Then because of things outside their control, her courage kind of just fell off.

Jeff:

And some are some would argue somebody hit me up arguing that little cam probably shouldn't have been on my list because people rehearsed it, but we don't know that. There's never been a rumor that Biggie or anybody wrote her shit, you know, I'm saying so I'm not I can't go off of you know what one person might assume.

Anthony:

But I mean, even if someone said fill a room until you have actually approved it, it was done, right? No,

Jeff:

we left off cardi for good reason. She doesn't deserve to be on as a shout out to cardi, you know, she's on our intro to the podcast.

Anthony:

She's not far from being in the top five. cardi B. Yeah. Like I mean because you can make an argument you can make an art but make I mean, they got a Grammy I was gonna

Jeff:

mention our next Megan the stallion got shot in the foot by the way Have you seen her toes man?

Anthony:

I mean I mean she's like a smooth six foot one match go have big ass feet would look like it would make sense to six foot one were like I'm sorry five like it just looks weird.

Jeff:

I saw pictures of her toes I was like damn is that the reason why my man was shooting at her feet?

Anthony:

No he did she just told me she has big feet can we left off

Jeff:

Moni love shout out to Moni she's a pirate

Anthony:

yeah but but she was in the same kind of that collective wick wick we went to so I had to put her in a header

Jeff:

not even I would put her up there with like maybe MC light but not as nice Okay, shout out to Mona she's on new season of one of them loving hip hop shows. I love our bootcamp marriage boot camp, but whatever. Anyway, I've never watched Oh, Roxanne Shantae shout out sure left off.

Anthony:

No, this is just a pioneer as a pioneer. Yeah, dude like I mean and like you said Kerris and kaina ballin on Sunday. They're not in my top five but I can disregard their current contribution hip hop Sure. People who exceeded them

Jeff:

we left off rod digger and some people were hitting me up saying that they have right digger and a top

Anthony:

okay

Jeff:

i don't know but yeah shout out

Anthony:

is that a decision makes more sense like when you think of writing did you think of Raja as a part of a collective not as rodigan she can rap Yeah, right you know she's part of something she's part of flipmode

Jeff:

and I can make the argument for this next person rage Lady of rage. I see her as part of like the dog pound and that whole collective you know, I mean, if you're

Anthony:

going to give the lady a rich credit, you must give your credit. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. It's pretty tough on pioneers. Yeah, it was the West Coast West Coast female rap pioneer. Yo, yo, her JJ Fad Supersonic I remember that shit. Like it happens. We left Eve he he was seventh or no, he was six my left she was just outside last honorable mention. Yeah, it is why didn't mention

Jeff:

we left off Rhapsody, which a lot of people think is probably nice that everybody we had on our list.

Anthony:

I told you that. He probably works better than most. Most people on here if you like her and Jean Grey will probably write better than most of them on here. But it's a nice kind of thing. When you think about these people that can be your Mount Rushmore plus one more. You got to be like, it's got to be a totality to it. It can't be like Whoa, oh, they're nice. Like, Like what? Like Russell Westbrook is nice. He's not gonna be your top five greatest point guards ever. No, no, it's the way it is. I know it's my behavior. But yes, yes, I

Jeff:

can give a shout out to our this week. I'm gonna do a different morning. I'll give a shout out to our female patrons. We only got to do Melissa and Natasha. We got two female patrons. Thank you. We appreciate what's female month we want to go and give a shout out to the female. Man.

Anthony:

You next drink on me y'all just keep paying Shut up.

Jeff:

Yo real quick before I get into the real topics I just wanted to real quick get your opinion on the whole Kyrie Irving situation because we've we've talked about the COVID and we've talked about the vaccines at length here you know I'm saying now i don't think either one are ashamed to say we're both vaccinated and I mean

Anthony:

just What a fuck but it's just a weird way to phrase it and I'm not ashamed with him vaccine

Jeff:

because a lot of a lot of people are like oh it's personal and that's the situation with Kyrie right now like you don't even want to talk about it like oh that's personal every time they ask them we're no you're not vaccinated because you're not allowed to even show up to the arena you can't play so the Nets this week just made a decision like look we're not going to have you as a part time player so you're not even gonna we're not going to allow you to play at all don't come to practice don't come to none of the games because he's supposed to you know he's technically eligible to participate in like a certain away games like they're not in New York or they're not in like California he can play in all the other states that don't have the vaccine mandate yet. But the nets are like yo management said we're not even gonna we're not even gonna do that but we don't want a part time player. So don't even show up bro. Until they until you get vaccinated. We don't even want to see us when they asked him he's like oh, you know this is personal I want to talk about it you know i mean first people were saying like Oh, he's just doesn't you know, like the idea of being told what to do with his own body. Recently a new report came out that he said that it's not that he's anti vaccine it's just that there's a lot of people that have lost their jobs because it is and he you know, whatever. I don't know he's trying to be a philanthropist or humanitarian I don't know he doesn't talk to the media so we really don't know we can just assume they tried to trade them they can't trade them nobody wants him. They offered him to the to the Sixers for Ben Simmons independent little fixer said no thank you even though they dying to get rid of Ben Simmons that that is that is the perfect deal for the fixes to yeah but they don't want to take the chance have traded him for another headache and then have Kyrie either not show up to camp or just retire because he threatened to retire the Nets ever traded him so the whole

Anthony:

time he knocked up the promise of the Nets run into what that trade is that you know been assigned up for six more years. Curry has a player option so he can just opt out like we did no assurances he'll stay there go fuck about anything else. If like, we got one guy for four years, you got you for maybe a year, and you might just be out or flake out or whatever. So

Jeff:

I'm interested in your opinion, like, you know, obviously he had this my opinion, My take is this. He has every right to not get vaccinated to do with his body where he likes it, you know, he has the freedom to do that he has the right to do that. But the Brooklyn Nets also have the right to cut him to trade him to send his at home to not pay him I feel like they also should have that right. Just like your job can mandate that hey, you need to come get the vaccine if you want to come back to the office or you are out of a job. Brooklyn Nets have the right to say that shit as well. That's my opinion

Anthony:

then that's not the Nets aren't in the room. You can be either all in or all out I mean this would not be an issue if you played for a different team in a different state TV playing whatever game to my big Sephora ones in New York right you're in New York you already knew the mandate in regards to it came down months ago you knew that it was going to be so you made that decision you help permanent I respect it. I like it I like I like what he's doing in all honesty because a lot of people always say like you know I'm gonna take the mandate I'm gonna do all that man I I lose my job or whatever like you say that Yeah, but

Jeff:

give up your salary then because now they're saying they're only going to pay him for a way games right over the games that he's eligible they're still gonna pay him even though he's not gonna play

Anthony:

right so basically the ones in the road who just be deactivated but he'll be paid he's still

Jeff:

gonna lose a chunk check he's scheduled to make a little over 30 million this year, you take away taxes and then you take all of the 50 plus games or the 50 games that he's not going to play in all the New York games and then all the California games comes up to at least maybe 50 games so he's only going to get paid for like 30 games and then they'll tax that so he's gonna lose a lot of money this year and the shit if he's willing to do that for what he stands for what he believes in respect, but at the same time you know you got players like the rat who's supposed to be his best friend and rumors already came out that he's already signed off on if the Nets want to trade them they could trade them he already gave the okay and that's telling because it's supposed to be his boy but again it's rumors right until it's said and then I want to find out what hard and feels because he's the only one of the three that hasn't even wondering so he's trying to rent win a championship you know I mean,

Anthony:

you don't care don't care about none car we've got going on like I'm trying to win they got it they got enough to still be championship contender probably probably right you got you got probably maybe arguably the best player in the planet and probably arguably maybe the top six best players on the planet with a lot of role players that come from everybody around them. I think they're going to be fine. I think nothing would carry is more in the sense that he's saying that he doesn't want to take the vaccine cool. I mean, it's a choice you got to make a lot of people I see that and they're like they're not until you start you know, taxing the money. They feel for real funny about it. I mean, the guy As a successful athlete, going to cost itself means in dollars, then that should matter though he's standing on a particular ground. I think it's a pretty dumb ground actually, but he's the one who's going to stand on that thing. Like I said, we always get into discussion man, like none of these people have master's degrees in any kind of science any or anything regarding science, you don't have any kind of information in regards to but it's a thing below the line of what we're going to do is that we need to do our own research like do you have a peer reviewed paper? Do you have this information readily available to you? The things that we need to know know what research but I remember Michael Porter Jr. said something about you know, we don't we don't know about the long term effects of this, but yet we don't. But you want to wait five, seven years and more and more people die like yeah, you should probably go ahead and do that. No, you take the advantage of what's there and what science is saying that you won't be able to stop COVID you won't say that you won't be able to catch it again, but the severely lessen your chances of dying. So people who worry about not the whole getting sick part. You got to figure way through that but the whole death part that give me an option to wear that you should probably take it if it knocks three minutes off. You're like fuck, it can't count anyway.

Jeff:

Yo, Jon Gruden got fired. And when I heard the news was the first thing I texted you, I was like, yo, we got Jon Gruden fired.

Anthony:

He did not but I was like,

Jeff:

Oh my god, john Gruber fire. Hey, we had a whole segment about it. Last week. We mentioned it. We talked about it. I like to think we have something to do with his firing. But it turns out more emails came out. And in these emails. And yeah, seven years worth and in these emails, he covered all the bases. This dude managed to offend every goddamn body.

Anthony:

He went forward.

Jeff:

He spoke about blacks. He spoke about women. He spoke about think he spoke about gays. He did speak about gays. He offended every goddamn body and let me read you a tweet by Richard dollars. He went on Twitter and he said, believe me a lot of people are shaking in their boots this morning hoping they own shit don't hit the New York Times. Holes in sports and words kneeling bitches refereeing. I can only imagine what the good old boys NFL said in private emails. It's crazy. Mm hmm. And of course it's that he resigned his ass got fired. Okay, no, he got fired. Trust me. The thing is now what I'm curious to find out is obviously the whole league is throwing him under the bus to cover who who's after they cover it because obviously he's going back and forth with other people in these emails. So he's emailing people. So this other people that knew that he was like this, he was saying these things that were probably saying the same shit to you know, I'm saying or reiterating some of the things he was saying. Let's see who these other people are. Let's start asking everybody.

Anthony:

For Joe Gruen pretty much the email themselves, but we're going to a Washington Redskins investigation about types of workplace environments, so he pulled a 650,000 emails. So there were all emails and correspondence going back and forth. So it wasn't league wide. It was really just within the Washington Redskins over that period of time. Now, excuse me, 50,000 emails is a lot, but I got to comb through them everything else and see the thing come up with john and so on so forth. So there's some kind of conspiracy possibly, it has something to do within the Redskins organization. John's a snake. JOHN sucks. In reality, john is just john has not been a never been a good head coach. Bert, so people bring an offensive coordinator. Not many people can scheme up and see that feed off the side of the field the way john does

Jeff:

being a good coach. He's not a good human being.

Anthony:

Yeah, I can agree with that to john. champion.

Jeff:

He's proven to be racist, sexist, homophobic. Yeah, and

Anthony:

I mean, he's racist, sexist, homophobic. Sounds like some old people that I know. Like his, his like his degrees of weeds, you need to kind of look at it. The problem with john is that he wasn't racist, sexist, homophobic. The problem is that he tended to gloat about it. He wanted to, you know, I mean, if things like that you could have kept them private. I know a lot of people who do and team and act the same exact way that Jon Gruden does, but they don't really tell a whole lot of people they definitely don't send it via email and try to make light a joke about it ever. The problem with john is that you know, he appeared to be something else but john was always who he expected he was. He was always loud. He was always just this angry crew chunky looking guy. Who just always ranted and raved about stuff and so on. Like he's one of those No, I liked the game the way it used to be the old way things not knowing that the old ways of him thinking about football was also the old ways he thought about society issue that you're going to run with with Jon Gruden that they're going to seem kind and they're gonna seem cordial and nice and they'll say the right thing but in private they'll do something opposite never fully liked the guy that person remember like he's to the QB camp thing or QB corner or thing on ESPN. Come in and run film now and everybody just like, like treat them like they were stupid. Like I'm the berean one you should learn from me like these guys are rookies. And anything else like that? What do you expect? We don't know anything we know enough, but we're not like that. You run into this dude and you see these emails, you see the history you see him talking about naked, naked pictures of Washington Redskins cheerleaders, things of that nature. The fact that this was like alive when it's kind of went on for the league for a while. This is why the NFLPA like asking, like, are you guys shorting nothing notes? Are you sure, but his frame and way of thinking isn't different from a lot of people who sit in those owners boxes, Bob McNair, who well i think he recently passed, I think a bit over to a son. But he basically like he felt a certain particular way about the protests and so on and so forth. When it came down to Colin Kaepernick, basically like calling like, you know, the players on the team like inmates or something to that degree, like it says, flat out racism, but kind of pointing in a particular direction. So this way of thinking and this this pattern isn't new. It's happen to be caught on paper for the entire world to see John's never going to get a job again. But it proves it it's like a real systemic problem that lots of needs that we really need to fix and really need to figure out so

Jeff:

we got john we got to thank technology because we obviously we've known racism has been existed forever. These guys are saying all types of shift ever. But now we got emails now we got social media, and now we got cell phones. And you don't I'm saying and not only you got more people being called these people are ratting on themselves. You know, I'm saying they shooting themselves in the foot. I don't know, man. I hope they keep the investigation going. Get down to the bottom of this whole reskin shit or whatever they name is Washington team.

Anthony:

They won't, they won't. Because there's a difference between rich and wealthy. John's rich. The guy who owns the team is wealthy, but the other guys who own those other teams, welcome to most of those roles. Don't burn each other down like that. So expect this to be the end. All right, well, sad, but now.

Jeff:

But Yo, let's take a quick break. When we come back. I want to get into the whole Dave Chappelle trying to be cancelled, but uh, LGBTQ plus community

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Jeff:

They represent a culture to represent like the culture podcast. Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe, say or do both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. That's a direct quote from who?

Anthony:

Who made that quote.

Jeff:

Yeah. Damon wait close, but no.

Anthony:

Who made it

Jeff:

Dave Chappelle said that okay. And he is the subject of our next topic because I you know, I finally saw the Netflix special and you know, he's he's the goat. He's actually the first time I've heard a comedian on stage called himself the goat

Anthony:

which is ballsy of him. He's Yeah, he's he's, I don't think he's a go he's on Mount Rushmore. I don't think he's to

Jeff:

go I mean, he's personally not my personal favorite, but I don't mind him to go my personal favorite is Chris Rock.

Anthony:

He's I put like the Dave Chappelle is not on this planet anymore. He's off this planet.

Jeff:

He Yeah, but basically his this whole stand up was, you know centered or Around the trans community, you know, I'm saying because and he's he spoke about his friend Daphne rest in peace who passed away who was transgender. And I didn't know who he was. I had to look it up. Yeah, I had to look it up, you know, also a comedian, whatever. And Daphne's family has come out and actually supported Dave Chappelle. But the LGBTQ plus community has come out and is up in arms. You know, I'm saying, like, coming for dude. When he's basically just saying, like, yo, we're both minorities. You know, I'm saying, I know what it feels like, you know, for the shit you're going through as a black man in America, you know, I mean, I, you know, he basically he was bait and I think it was Damon Wayans who came out and said like, yo, he basically you know, freed the comedian, slaves. You didn't realize that were enslaved because they were felt like they couldn't say shit no more, I guess relax, want

Anthony:

to make. You're not a comedian, but.

Jeff:

But tell me what's, what's your take on the ship?

Anthony:

Damon gotta calm the fuck down. Maybe y'all gotta stop this comparison about like freedom and slavery. I'm dead fucking tears. I hate when people do that a lot. Because like I said, being free to be able to say whatever you say, pales in comparison to what actual slavery was. I understand the comparison that he was trying to make it just a dumb fucking comparison. You're a comedian, you're in front of a stage with 10s or hundreds of 1000s of people to do that job as difficult as itself. But you have to be bold, you have to be brash, you have to be wherever you are, if you really love the art form. It's not really worried about the check. Like I enjoy the ability to perform this. And even if I lose a few people along the line of what I say the thing is that there's going to be some core friends gonna stick with me. For people to think for him. The competitor does. Come away. You're not free slave man, you got the right to say whatever the fuck you want. And if you offend people, that's the point of comedy. not supposed to be clean. You're going to say some things that are wrong. But you got to frame in a way to make it funny. But Dave, don't disagree. I don't disagree with him. I think they think he's trying to say something in a context where it's difficult for him to do so. Because you're dealing with

Jeff:

acid to say some shit. Well, I

Anthony:

mean, but the whole thing is that you got to around some shit. You don't you don't you just have to push past that fear. Like what are you afraid of? Like, you've been like you have said some very insightful, funny and harsh truths about other communities, about white people about society about President everything. Like you spoken the president, you spoke on police brutality, like you mean to tell me of all these things that would typically be more dangerous to a black person and that this one segment of people you're terrified of like you're afraid to speak up when I go when I go out these doors, man, I don't worry about anyone in the LGBTQ community like that. Not that I'm pressed over. But it's more intense. Like, there's other things I got to fear, crime, poverty, let's say police brutality, shit, you walk to the store and worry about someone coming to shoot and shit up gun violence, things like that. That community has a particular segment of problems that most people are not going to be able to deal with and recognize, because you are not in their shoes. And I think Dave was trying to find a way to get into them. Like I said, it's just hard. It's not a tough nut to crack. If you have something to say about somebody, and you can frame it to be funny you do so people make white jokes all the time, white people made white jokes about white people, black people definitely talks about white people, which got a framing awareness that's funny, and there's a smidgen of truth to it, or maybe even a lot the problem you're gonna run into with Chappelle is that he's dealing with a community that is still kind of ongoing and burgeoning. Like this I mean, homosexuals been around forever but the the path towards the rights the equal rights of others, for them maybe started 5060 years ago, so it's not a very long time that has gone to kind of going forward. So for him to kind of keep pushing forward when I think the most expressive thing that he did at the end is like you know what, I'm just not going to talk about this until we can actually get to get a laugh out of it because right now they're just not see an eye, which I appreciate but he didn't have to understand like, it's not the fact of being sensitive No, it's the fact like you have to know your audience and you're not really familiar with our audience you're taking low road jokes like right do like do wearing a dress or someone's like alright alright I get it like alright it's a joke that can be made but you're better than that you have the ability to speak better that you've proven that through all your decades of actual comedy so to do so the way he went about the special was trying to weave a narrative into what he's trying to get across But Dave Dave like

Jeff:

but he denied it like look I don't have nothing no problem The only people have problems with his white people he was saying right, I've never had any problem with gays or trans or whatever. And now people are up in arms too with the newsha that came out with the comics the the gay Superman or whatever, or the bisexual Superman, okay, and people are tripping about that what was the guy that played him in a series of cane was a name didn't came. And we know Dean Cain is a very conservative Republican or whatever, but he came out he's talking about types of shit like they wanted to be different if you did this 20 years ago, but now they're just trying to you I forget the term he used you know copycat or trying to ride the bandwagon that's what he called it trying to ban the bandwagon and jump on the you know on the LGBT train or whatever

Anthony:

but but but 20 years ago it wasn't the space for it right it was that time change like people always talk about this in time shit the world's going to end so on so forth. The world doesn't end it doesn't end what happens is that we displace you shift cultures right you go from one point to another we had you know we had a slave culture that went away we went from a industrial culture to a culture that consumes we went through the counterculture we went through the crack era culture these things shift away No, it's not but it is a cute name but they both begin with see because you can't cancel somebody it's the only way you can cancel somebody is to kill them than they are literally cancelled. But you can't mute anybody can't silence anybody. Like I said, we just had a president for four years that has said some wild shit about a lot of people for all that time before his presidency and after I don't see him getting cancer at all as a matter of fact I see my folks cheering him on fact total so the idea of canceling somebody it's impossible you can't cancel shit are you going to do is pick up your little phone and move them around or get in front of a computer and tapping a little keyboard fan I know we got to do this is going to be that we're going to you know we're going to hashtag this it's in an electronic space is not in the world. Do they say oh we're going to cancel Dave Chappelle how like you're going to like not go to a shows trust me someone's going to buy those tickets it's not like he's like you're still an alum of the no show today not like our Kelly or Kelly thing get cancelled below canceled

Jeff:

you try to try to defend him

Anthony:

this the weirdest thing that happened to me today because we're talking about our Carolyn, we were I was on our front on the way home and I was talking to a friend of mine had called Sam what's going on with him? And he was talking about like, we're talking about Chappelle thing and talking about you know music and you know, like the massage and the lyrics. And I was so people wanted a wider song to Everyone listen to it. Ain't no fun of the homies can have none like it's kind of low key

Jeff:

my homies game nice read my

Anthony:

shit no okay lady. It's kind of because lady polishing saying that I'm just saying it's a low key song about gang rape or train depending on how you look at it right?

Jeff:

That's all we're flat today. No, it

Anthony:

wouldn't but I'm actually I'm leaving work and I'm going that far for the job and like they're setting up like a campground or play the setting up something for like, what is it a carnival set up something for Carnival, and I'm driving past and I as God is my witness, I swear on the lives of my niece's my Oh, my God, daughter, I drove by there, and I swear they're playing step in a name. I love our Kelly. And I'm just like, boy, y'all still don't get it like, and it's not an hour like wasn't even really a complaint to me. But it's like, it's a situation like, we just started discussion but you having these feelings about our Kelly and I really ran into a situation where setting up something for this little event and then literally playing the music. I found it to be so odd. That's why I said you cannot fucking cancel people. People are people they're going to choose to do whatever they're going to do you trying to stop them, though. It's only it's a waste of your energy is more productive so that you can be doing that then you're going to gather some people together and shut down this one person. No, you didn't cancel Harvey Weinstein again, the law is going to then cancel Bill Cosby, the law is going to you can expose them you can put them forward. If they're doing some kind of heinous vicious crimes like that. Just maybe you can get the attention of a lot to get shit done. But in this instance, in regards, Dave Chappelle, that's kind of wasting your time, man. He's not getting canceled. You've tried. You try try again. That ain't gonna happen is whatever but if you saw it, you watch it. What did you think of it?

Jeff:

Like I said, He's in Mount Rushmore, he's, I call him to go, he's not my favorite. I said, again, Chris Rock is, but Kevin Hart. Everybody says the thing, even Chris Rock, I said, like he's the goat. So when all the other comedians are saying he's the golden shit, we know, he's at least in the Mount Rushmore. And I like how he tries to have you know, he's funny, obviously. But he also has social commentary to his standup, you know, I mean, and most of it is social commentary, and it addresses certain topics. This one was, you know, LGBTQ community going at him or, you know, comedians not feeling like they could say certain jokes, because they got to tippy toe, because this particular community is going to get offended and they're going to try to cancel you. And personally, I've never had any problems. I mean, I like to think that and I've addressed to him before that the older I'm getting, the more accepting I'm becoming of other people's cultures, societies, you know, beliefs, etc. Way of Life. And I don't have no problem with gays with transgenders, they live their life. The only time I'm having a problem is when you know, your actions, your beliefs, or whatever start affecting you know me You personally are like my family. I'll give you an example. Like the whole the big topic with the train the trans community is the bathroom issue. You know, I mean, some states, you know, have allow transgender use whatever bathroom they want. Other states are like, No, you have to use the bathroom for the sex that you were assigned at birth. You know, and it's a big topic, I think, I don't want to say there's a line you got to draw. But when you you start feeling differently, in my case, when I have I have a son now. So the way I probably felt maybe five years ago, my son is four now is different than I feel now, on this particular topic, you know what I mean? I have a son it different if I had a daughter, and I'll ask you the same thing. If you have a daughter, you know, and she's in a, you know, female bathroom or whatever? How would you feel if transgenders are allowed to go in any bathroom? It's a sensitive topic, but it's a tough it's a topic that we have to address eventually, you know, I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, I get it, I feel fine. You know what I mean? Because I don't know if I would feel fine with having my young child, you know, in a bathroom where it could be potentially, you know, men, women in their transgender, whatever, because what's what stops a man that doesn't identify as transgender, what stops him from dressing up, you know, as a female and going in there saying, like, yeah, I'm gonna go in, I mean, or a pedophile, or whatever. So these, you know, it gets to that, that that's a conversation that we're going to eventually have to have, once they start, you know, making these laws where everybody can just use whatever bathroom

Anthony:

is fine. I mean, to me, it's fine. And I'll explain my reasoning. When I kind of think of it in that context, you're making the assumption that the people that are coming into the bathroom are predators, that because the person transgender, though suddenly want to harm or be attracted to or flirt with someone of an opposite sex or a minor child or something to that degree? I think it's kind of reductive thinking. I mean, the people who are are pedophiles are coming you're

Jeff:

opening the door for the ones that are pedophiles, you're making it easy for them and what you're not so you're not gonna address it until something happens?

Anthony:

No, not really, because there is there is no plain Jane profile of what a sexual assault tour looks like. They come in all shapes, sizes, racist colors, so on so forth. transgenders have more fear in the bathroom than I would, because I consider myself to be pretty civilized. If someone not civilized me see that person in it, they're probably gonna try to beat them to death when you're trying to use the bathroom. So that's why I don't have that particular fear. Like I can go, I can literally go to a bar that caters towards the LGBTQ community. Welcome to that bathroom nice and clean. Go take a piss give myself a little gentlemen's handshake, wash my hands and walk right out. Not a fear of being sexually assaulted, molested, attack anything else like that, but is unconscionable for you to think that. Because someone's different, they're probably different in all kinds of ways, especially sexual. It's not necessarily true. But they feel uncomfortable in their body, they want to change their gender, that's up to them. And if the laws protect them, the law should protect them. I shouldn't have as much fear as going into a bathroom as they should be walking into it. Because I know I'm going to walk in there and I'm going to walk out untouched. They don't have that there's still a fear there. Like people still beat the shit. They still kill people because people are transgender. Not because they're hitting on them just because they're not like them. That's where I find a prominent be. And if I let myself being captured by that fear, I wouldn't drive a car because hell I can get carjacked, or I can get ran over. I would I wouldn't go to work. Because people go into office buildings, they shoot all the time. They know these things happen. But you can't let them terrify you freak you out like that they're still human beings. And is one of the most important things Dave Chappelle said in that entire entire comedy special, he's talking in depth, he said, I'm having a human experience. That couldn't have been truer words. I can't describe how you live, I can't tell you how to raise your son or treat your wife or treat your family that's your experience in your life is what you have to do, to survive get by, to thrive, or to cry or to just to get through it, your experience gonna be unique for you, because you are you, their experience is going to be unique for them. Because they've made a very conscious choice to go to the gender that they feel comfortable with, that they feel that they truly are. There's something that's going to kind of go along with it. I can't erase this black skin. I got to deal with the shift that comes from being black every single day. Once they make that choice. I'm not saying they're black, so don't misquote me. I'm saying that they're making a conscious decision to be something that they feel that they are, society won't fully accept that and if they even if they don't, they still got to live with it. Because once you make that choice, ain't no coming back. Like once you take the big haircut, you don't it's not looking like a little baggy to snap back on anytime you want to. or extended one you can get a whatever it might be. It's not that anymore. You make a firm decision to be in this part of thing. And I guess the strange thing about it is that I figured that, you know being such a difficult choice, I figured that they wouldn't be as sensitive but I think they are pretty tough, strong. People it just the fact that people always keep giving them shit about No, you shouldn't be this and you should be that you're just leaving fucking on you were about yourself, let them be themselves, let them live their lives the way they want to, like you said as long as whatever you do doesn't interfere in my life. We're cool so I'm going to walk in every bath and I'm going to go into every store I'm going to go into every job not worried about the fear of repercussions that might come because I'm going to live my life the best way I can. Yeah How you feel about that I'm

Jeff:

bisexual Superman, because Marvel and DC have gotten Schiffer not being in DC more than Marvel not being as progressive but now lately they've been you know, they recently came out and said Aquaman was gay. They said DC said Robin was gay and now Superman is bisexual amongst others. In the Dean Cain he alluded to the fact that on his show, I guess his daughter is Supergirl or something she's gay right? Okay, so now my thing is this I have no problem but why not introduce new characters? Why gotta take characters that have been you know, I mean and then all of a sudden now they're gay. And I've had the same beef and I've mentioned this to you when they start changing the you know what I mean the race on the characters when they make a historically white character they make them black in the cartoon or black in the movie or now he's black in the comics, right? Like why not introduce another character you know, it's like Luke like Luke Cage was always black. So he's black you know, Black Panther is black You know, I'm saying

Anthony:

if he had white Panther that'd be wild, though. But yeah.

Jeff:

But now they're going to take these characters that we grew up with that we've been watching forever and now they're going to turn them different now. They're different so now they're gay now they're trans now, I mean, why just not introduce a new hero? That's my only reason.

Anthony:

It's not as impactful that the reason you take popular characters because you want in popular character reflects society. You want to say that I'm like you I'm not any different so if you're, if you're one of your bigger superheroes, like I said, He's Superman, but he's Superman son, he's not Carlisle. Right? He's a son of john Kent or whatever, right? If he can, like if Superman like the guy was about you know, pride truth, you know, the American way. The American Way sounds racist, doesn't it? Right? It doesn't really but I mean it'd be then if he can be gained and I can have pride in what I am who I am as one of most powerful people drawn and so on so forth can be this so can I can be because it because if it becomes pandering when you make a gay character, because then it seems like I'm only making it for you. But if you take an established character, who like I said, a lot of people in that community has have had to hold back their sexuality for so long. And not being able to express them be who they truly, really feel like they are. When you get a character like Superman, and it does it is like, okay, I feel more comfortable with what it is, you know, Superman, or rogue, I should be living my own truth. But the whole thing is, like I said, we live in a masculine society is mostly dominated by men. So the problem that you're going to run into is that it only matters when it's guys because no one gave a shoot with Catwoman and poison ivy. Good guy didn't care. That was like, Yeah, yeah, like that combo. That was fine. Didn't have an issue there. But let's let Batman, but let me say that so crazy, cuz like, almost you can brush it off by saying, he's probably going to do some weird shit. He's an alien. Let Batman be gay, they're gonna lose a shit. I'm telling you right now, if Batman is gay or bisexual, they're gonna flip that's the man's. That's the man is crazy. But I mean, I don't really stress about it. It's a cartoon. They're trying to be more inclusive and be more aware of the topical things as is. I mean, cuz that's what the topic is today. I mean, back in the day, Superman used to fight in Vietnam and take on Russia. That's just what was topical, the issue of gender politics and where we stand as a country about it. It was topical, so your, your entertainment and your everything around it surrounding that point of view? No, it should be reflective of the fact that the times that it'd be weird if everything was going on about about gender equality, and so on and so forth. And then no one says nothing about it. Like you're not gonna mention nothing about this shit. Like, it's this this domain thing like, Nah, it's not a thing. We just draw pictures, but the latest one audit to enjoy the things

Jeff:

I would like to have a trans person on the show one day that we could like maybe interview and address some of these topics. And you know, figure out a way where we can all coexist without nobody getting offended. You know, I'm saying,

Anthony:

I will have zero issue with that. You know, I

Jeff:

mean, figure out how we can come together in unity. But Yo, before we go, I just want to have a new get a word and a word of the week. And it's JIT j IT because I was on a Twitter shout out to the Chamber's 36 chambers, chat group on Twitter, and wonder to dues came on air this morning. And it was like you know, good morning jets. And now Like what? He called us a jet and I hadn't heard that word in a while. And it's actually an acronym for juva now in training the urban dictionary definition of it is a young motherfucker that don't know shit. Man don't do dress with no jet football mature man that fool is a jet is the sentence any job now who doesn't know how to act right and still needs grown up training like most of these young jets on here who say shit without really knowing what it stands for means anyway so it's a young fella young ignorant brother whatever.

Anthony:

I swear these words get worse and worse every week I'm like, Yo man growing up man Don't be like that. Call me by my name be

Jeff:

but yo that's our episode. As always, we got to do better. Let's try to do better. Let's unify. La Cultura, peace.

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