The Real Slim Shady

Jeff: 0:47

Yo yo yo, peace, peace, peace. Thank you for tuning in Episode 70 of the culture we got a lot to get into. It's your boy Jeffery man and we got Mikey sheet once again special guests, because he has to clear his name on something. We're going to discuss a lot of different topics today.

Mikey: 1:04

Oh no,

Jeff: 1:05

we're gonna we're gonna review some new albums that came out to give a shout out to our patrons. But first things first, Mike, we had to bring you back because it was a little backlash. And I'll read some of the messages to you from some of our patrons. Alright, like there was more than one. Yeah. Because you had mentioned and we didn't even touch on it because you said we would leave it for another time. When you had said that. You know, Eminem was corny, right? Mm hmm. I don't want to misquote you those are your exact words. Correct?

Mikey: 1:34

I mean, I don't know if they're my exact words, but I feel that yeah, you

Jeff: 1:38

say he was corny. You say you don't really fuck with his shit. Okay. So right away you know once people episode came out Monday morning, people started listening. First thing I get was messages from our patrons. One of them says one of them by the name of Alex SoSAFE said remove Mr. sheet there from your show. Eminem is corny fuck out of here. And he

Mikey: 1:59

called me by my formal name. Thank you

Jeff: 2:03

with that, and then another and then another patron by the name of grand Kaiser said, yeah, you need to take that white boy off period. And then

Mikey: 2:12

wait wait, rappers get that white dude off the show.

Jeff: 2:19

Not Asian nonsense. And then Alex Oh, say double down. And he said if you don't like him cool, but to say Ms. Corny, fuck out of here, son. Are you not listening to the nasty shit that he spits especially when he get in that zone? And I was like, I'm just gonna let Mike you're dressing himself. I'm not going to be speaking for him. You know what I'm saying? For the floor.

Mikey: 2:39

I mean, well, first of all, and we kind of talked about this in our text thread. But like, preference is a thing, right? Like you can not prefer somebody and still recognize the talented like Eminem has never been my style. I've never really I've never really liked his voice. I've never really liked the way that he raps even when it's like white tape came out. That was when I was in high school and everybody was so on his dick. You know, I don't know. I like him. He's fine. I've never owned an Eminem album. But like to say that Eminem is a sacred cow that you can't criticize. Like Eminem is Amazon. Amazon, if you will. He isn't like a massive entity that he doesn't need your support. Like he's good. And he has enough of a fan base. I know that he's talented. Of course, he's talented, but like if we can't if I can't comment on him and say that I kind of think he's corny. Like, I mean, how what examples you want me to use that? He's corny to trailer park girls go round the gaps.

Jeff: 3:33

I mean, I don't. I don't like Dexter. I've been I've been open about saying I don't like that side of him. And sure, early words, this album was like that never like that goofy shit. But I like that other shit. You know, half the other half of the year. Usually, you know, say goodbye to Hollywood sing for the moment. You know the real shit. So you know Toy Soldier? Of course that's the shit I fuck. Yeah. But I think what it is, I think you know what it is? I think the fact they accept that from an because like, we've had this conversation before a lot of black people just can't relate to em. So they don't you know, they don't they understand. He's nice, but they don't forget, but you're white boy. So I think that it's different.

Mikey: 4:03

So what I'm supposed to I have to love him. No, but

Jeff: 4:05

I think that's why negros either, I'm not the arbiter of all negros either, like, No, but you're just the example because you're the black guy on the show, but all my other black friends too. They feel the same way you do by Eminem, like, okay, he's okay. I can't fuck with him. I don't listen to his music. I can't relate to music. But my being a white boy, I guess it's assumed that you know, the majority of Eminem fans are white, you know, even talks about a hit song or like, black would have sold half I had to graduate from high school to know that. And, you know, Mike being white and him saying that Eminem is corny. You know, that's almost like unheard of. So I think people will trip when they see a white person dissing Eminem like that.

Mikey: 4:39

And I just think that it's you know, I, there isn't a racial component in in, in the fight with me about Eminem. Like, it's just not part of it. But I mean, if we want to get into that, it's like, I don't know. Like, are you gonna say that Elvis is better than like Robert Johnson or something? You know, like, this is what are Chuck Berry? It's, there's an argument to be made there, man. It's like Eminem was a sanitized version of hip hop that could have been sent out that was sent out into the suburbs weaponized to sell as many albums as he could and the shady aftermath like the it's kind of the way that I feel about a lot of drays artists is that I feel like they're kind of they're these packaged, sanitize things. And I'm not and I'm not saying that I don't like his artists. I love a lot of his artists, but Eminem is like he is me he was weaponized as like this brand. And while his skills are obviously unquestionable, it just wasn't for me, you know? It's like like I said, Amazon, I don't want to shop at Amazon I want to shop at my local bookstore whether it gives me their personal recommendations Sheriff Park yet but I know I did.

Jeff: 5:37

I do a local prime to day shipping even though they don't even do it. Yeah, but anyway,

Mikey: 5:42

and I'm like, I actually wrote like a list of like, I wrote like roasts, like roasting jokes about Eminem. But I decided I'm not even going to read them because it's just gonna piss people off more. Oh, I want a rapper doesn't need raw. I don't know. I said defending them and defending Eminem is like saying all lives matter. Like Eminem doesn't need your help man. He's good, like, focus on people that are like that, that need the support that need to be defended, like Eminem has an army behind him, he's fine. If he's your do that you're like going to the mattresses for and if we're also on this show, and in the world, if we're not allowed to have an opinion, saying like, we don't prefer somebody I know that I went for and I call them corny, but like, that's how I feel.

Jeff: 6:25

Did it bother you when Eminem comes out and he defends black people or Black Lives Matter? Or when he did the little anti Trump? Freestyle? Does the shit like that bother you? Me? Yeah. Because I know what bothers some black people like, Okay, we don't need the white boy being our leader type of shit. You know, I'm saying I heard that from the anti Trump thing better black friends. Yeah.

Mikey: 6:45

I mean, the the anti Trump thing was fucking awesome. Yeah, but

Jeff: 6:48

what I'm saying is like, and I don't know, I guess and doesn't agree. But yeah, but like, people were like, Yo, we don't need the white boy to be like the leader of the black community. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I don't?

Mikey: 6:59

I don't think but I don't think that's what I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know enough about it to really speak on it, but I don't think that was,

Jeff: 7:04

let me hear one more of your anti Eminem jokes.

Mikey: 7:08

Oh my god. That literally, he literally put six or seven. Eminem is the Insane Clown Posse with 35% more talent.

Jeff: 7:19

Thinks about policy when he's

Mikey: 7:20

of course. Yeah, of course. They're the fucking worse.

Jeff: 7:24

He was like, fuck ICP buy my CD.

Mikey: 7:28

Yeah. And definitely fuck ICP. And I don't and I don't think that he's ICP, but it's just for me. It's the bigger issue beyond Eminem is that I think we can all have our opinions about any artists that we want. People should be able to come on here and talk shit about Jay Z if they want to like, but you have to, you know, you have to be able to have your preference. And I don't know. It's all good. I also just don't think you should have to fucking go away like, oh, I have to just leave the show because I don't like Eminem. The fucking

Jeff: 7:53

hassle Mike, you are canceled this time. You're gonna come on the show. Bye. Bye, guys. I'll be back next week. All right, let me just hear one more please let me do here one more.

Mikey: 8:02

Before we move on. Eminem has a dishwasher. Yes, he does it faster and better. But sometimes hand washing the dishes cleaner. I don't know. Stoned last night

Jeff: 8:12

to do a little you should do a little stand up a bit and just do I mean by the way we got to watch out it's never been turned on anyway go Wow. Never been turned on to get my shot. That's terrific.

Anthony: 8:25

But you just want to get you want to get your shot. You want to go and see see Eminem jokes and everything like that. Get your shot, but in reality, like no one, there's no problem with Eminem. Okay, let's get the shit out the way. You always feel that our prom Eminem? I don't. I think that when black people say shit like you know he shouldn't be the leader for Black. Eminem and your top five? My top 10 He's not my top five. Okay, you're gonna top 10 is not my top five. But the whole thing is like, people talk about everything else regarding some of the goofy rapping and so on and so forth. And when and where people connect with them. You wonder why garlic might doesn't necessarily connect with them. Because like, it's a silly shit. It's a goofy shit. That's neither here nor there. The whole thing that Eminem story. I mean, it's it's not a story of color. It's a story about status in society is not a key group of which a rich white kid who became a great rapper, he grew up with a lot of the poverty and degradation that other guess black artists have grown up with as well. So there's something that's related to bill about a story besides his skin. The thing about Eminem is going to be like he got co signed by a bunch of people. And that's great. But the reason that you know someone like Dr. Dre cosign someone like Eminem, because you have to recognize a particular level of talent, and his talent is otherworldly. That's the special part about him. We saw what's going to be a white thing black thing with him. I'm not denying his ability as a lyricist at all, um, this morning since that, just because he's not my cup of tea doesn't mean to actually dislike or despise the man. This is this is off handed example. Do you guys like porn? Yeah, I'm going to order this right. Okay. Do you have a favorite porn star? Yes. You don't have to name them. But yeah,

Mikey: 9:59

I should talk about this. No, I won't. I

Jeff: 10:02

won't name it. Last week on the second episode.

Mikey: 10:05

I know you said don't talk about sex. Maybe talk about my favorite porn star is my wife's exact stunt double. Oh, really? It's super weird.

Anthony: 10:17

That is really nice. That's so nice.

Mikey: 10:20

Even like, I'm not talking

Anthony: 10:22

like like, I can't even like I can't cheat. It's

Mikey: 10:26

it's crazy. Like not she's like 98% My win win.

Anthony: 10:31

It's a win win. That's the first thing we do in our know that

Mikey: 10:35

begins with a V.

Jeff: 10:36

i We're not going to be looking this girl up, man. I ain't trying okay.

Mikey: 10:39

It's a little. I have a couple of friends that have looked up and be like, Oh, that makes you feel weird.

Anthony: 10:44

Okay, whatever. But the whole thing like let's say you like porn or something. like a porn star like it doesn't mean you just like all the other ones just have a particular favorite. You still like the genre? I love rap. I love hip hop, and I love Eminem. It doesn't make me put him above everybody else or disliked him more than most it's just that I put him in this particular section where he does certain things that I like certain things that I don't let the people that are favorite more do a lot more things that I liked and the things that I don't put does it have to do with the fact that you don't relate to his music has something to do with a little bit? No, because because it's his music it's like his music is fire like when when he's speaking on a more personal level when he's speaking like two things about society and stuff of that nature. He's amazing once it gets to that Superman gibberish whatever shit that but but that's what him you got to accept both parts of it he loses you when he does that fast shit rapidly right but but but we said that every time we talk about him I said when once he got in that Rap God shit I said that's when I mean like I'm not fucking tomorrow because I'm I said when Europe like I can still do you know to like collapse word for word. I can still like I can still do stand word for word when he's just saying it and just wrapping it out when it goes to Tomato, tomato, but like you're not budging. I just like to do it. And I just like to show that he makes it has substance when he starts talking about you know, I watch porn on Paul Orndorff when I'm jerking off at the store, you know, he does that bullshit. You know, I can't really, because he's not saying that he's putting words together, you know, I mean, and he's probably the best at doing that and putting words together but when you're not saying, you know, I know but you know, like, you know a guy who's perfect or putting like dumb shit together but just because I hate he says it is fire. Like somebody like action. Just says dumb shit. Yeah, but it comes on sounds dope. Yeah, yeah, he talks about wrestling. It makes no sense what he's saying but it sounds dope.

Mikey: 12:35

I mean, there's there's so many rappers that like that, you know, like I think like Pharaoh or like, Pep love, like people that write you know, the rhyme not only words but kind of sounds and the feelings and the way that they like, you know, say the sentences Eminem like defined that. I think in a lot of ways he was the person that did the best. He's also one of the best storytellers that's ever existed in hip hop. For sure. Even Stan He's dan is like maybe the best storytelling song. You know, that being said? I think it's you know, I like to start a fight because he

Jeff: 13:02

and you're not in your top 10 Okay, let's move on. I don't want to make this an Eminem episode, and we already spent too much time on it. Oh, it brought such a good point. I want to bring up but we will not do it. Babu. I need to pull it up real quick. But just off the top of your head. What are your favorite three storytelling reps? Songs? Yeah, off the top of your head. Oh, undying love like NAS? More it's gonna be Yeah, they're gonna probably all be not a song. I mean, I do like one. No, the gun one is I got one power. That's what Yeah, that's a good one. undying love by NAS is another good one. When it comes back from like Vegas and he finds his wife cheating and he kills both of them. Whatever.

Mikey: 13:40

Mm hmm. What's the biggie song where he talks about fucking dude from the next

Jeff: 13:45

guy. I gotta go. Oh, yeah. I was up there. Standing up from the upstairs up there. Oh, Renee. Lost Boys. Oh, Renee is for top probably top five or top 10 Oh,

Mikey: 13:56

I love that nine song. What is that the message? I like the movie get shot. Yeah,

Jeff: 14:02

somebody's taking

Mikey: 14:03

three. Yes. Yeah. Brown Datsun?

Jeff: 14:06

Yep. Nobody in my hood. Got one.

Mikey: 14:09

My buddy in high school had a brown. You shot? Definitely. Sorry. Aaron.

Anthony: 14:16

Where are you getting? Going? Can we just talk about storytelling? I was probably going to say I got a story to tell Miss fat booty. Great. Could you tell the whole story from beginning? Yeah, I'm gonna name with the night Tiger. Girl given up to speak cell phone and name? Yeah. A bit was tough. Um, she happened to be like, two

Mikey: 14:37

bisexual problem. Yeah.

Anthony: 14:39

Renee is up there. Today was it was a good day cube.

Mikey: 14:43

Huh? Okay, another last

Jeff: 14:46

episode. That gonna be the top

Mikey: 14:49

123 problems. Do you know that time is like a secret song in the Lost Boys. I love that. So free guitar. Lu

Anthony: 14:56

yo, but Thanksgiving is only a few days away, man. So happy early Thanksgiving, everybody. Gobble, gobble. Do we still give a shit? I was telling my wife she just left the house and she's like, Oh, I gotta buy all this stuff for the turkey. I'm gonna make I'm like, I don't know. You don't know. You don't know you don't and every year we know this is you know just I'm tired of when you get to a particular age. You just get sick at Thanksgiving like it's the same fucking shit. 30 plus years has been the same. I don't want it anymore. Yeah, I don't. And I'm not I'm Jeff I'm not gonna buy a house Thanksgiving y'all my fucking sucks like seven o'clock? Yeah, I got shit to do. I'm gonna go sleep. It'd be 10 o'clock and he's ready to go to bed. That's when people start. Oh. Yo, y'all Thanksgiving released on a Friday. It's not a Thursday that should not get cracking and be like my after 12

Mikey: 15:40

by 7pm I should be having my second or third leftover dinner. We haven't even been like, oh wow, no, you gotta eat

Anthony: 15:47

do dirty daily make literally fucking like yo come through like like barely started like we didn't even start yet I'm like oh my god y'all start getting a to fucking clock that's great texting you then I can take you just like are you gonna come by no fucking clock I ate it too I'm full now

Mikey: 16:06

and napping at brunch

Anthony: 16:08

he said no to an afternoon motherfucker y'all go ahead and do that shit Do you ever like now we start eating yeah yeah come on I came on one Thanksgiving in a carbon fucking Turkey I'm like what? Why am I here? This table cutting up yo shit

Mikey: 16:25

you're like oh boy

Anthony: 16:28

no unless you like late nights and light alcohol no you don't know you do not it's my favorite things but we got we got the m&m shit out the way let me get one more thing out the way because last week and sinuate that I call a particular gentlemen a black guy and I just wanted to clear my name cuz I'm getting back black guy not the black guy black guy not deep like I don't even call him that anyway shout out to the 36 chambers on Twitter gentleman by the name of revolt records he's when you after you heard the message he said apparently Jeff calls a dude black guy racist ass motherfucker and then I go hey, that's not true. And then he responds that's what and says man i Man Twitter I need you. I need you to clear my name man. I need you to clear my man. Not racist or misguided man. They it's not just Jeff. All of them. Every single one of them call him black guy. I just found it weird. The man's name is Jose next time I see him I'm gonna ask him. What's your actual nickname? Jimmy have one No, I've never heard his nickname. I swear to Christ I never knew his name was Jose I always refer to him and knew him as black guy because everyone else called him black guy so I said okay, he's black guy. Even though he's not black he just kind of has kind of deeper features he's not black yet but he's Afro Latino. He's darker than you talking about right? Right but right but it's like like being in the gang was set you clean Afro or Latino? What that read be like? Yes, so you're trying to polish it off. You see You can't ride the wave because of Afro Latino being on both sides. I think some black eyed peas with the rice and everything. Do what you got to do but don't be like I'm Afro this time and I'm Latino that time. Be who you are. You got to pick a side. I know it's fucked up. But you kind of got to, but are you racist? Fuck no, no, no, no, no. That's not his thing. That's not that's not really in your DNA. We all bias but I don't think you're racist. I just think that it's kind of funny to me. You don't think I gotta be more specific man. Do you don't think? No. I need you to clear my name, man. I got people talking Wow on Twitter. Jeff is not definitely not a racist. Right? Wasn't racist. Like it's coming from. From a black person. Jeffrey is not a racist. Okay, sign the black hole. That's a dope song by Joyner Lucas. I'm not racist. I'm not a racist. Yeah, do you feel like maybe you are? Maybe. Alright, let's move on. Um, how you feel about Kanye West or yay, whatever the fuck his name is and Drake squashing their beef they reconciled after years of a long feud. Drake had him over his house that was party and in Canada. I like to wait see reconciled is reconciled reconcile whatever. I know. That's very professional of you.

Mikey: 19:15

I mean, of course they're gonna do that right. Obviously, they're gonna have a

Anthony: 19:21

man he's got a picture with with them too. And do print J prints luckily, like a disappointed Daddy get a two step kids together to talk to shut up. You need to figure this out. Like, mediator. I guess we got money to me like man. Yeah, we got two kids fighting in the guy. I'm having like makeup. Like, that's your brother. You love him. That's your brother. You love them too. Like, Alright, that's it. That's like, none of them look happier. Like,

Mikey: 19:44

oh, yeah, Drake's, like, come over to my weird bank house that I built. That's too shiny.

Anthony: 19:49

Fly to Toronto and let's just relax my big ass house and work this out. J Prince is like y'all gonna call me shut down. Right? Like, yes, that. Okay, cool. That's it. And yeah, staying on Kanye. Segal came out and said, Yo, you know, Kanye doesn't owe me nothing but love. You don't gotta give me no 50 million. Give me that 50 million bro. If you don't want it, I'll take this shit. The fuck out of here. Take that money show. Take that money. See where he got it. Just take that shit.

Mikey: 20:14

And be nice. I said this on the episode before but beanie. You don't you don't need the 50 million. I think I think it might be good.

Jeff: 20:22

To put it like this. Even if you don't want to take the 50 million. Take the percentage of Yeah, take the 5% of easy stock might in the long run might even be worth more than the 50 million.

Mikey: 20:33

Yeah, I'll be GAAP alone

Jeff: 20:36

for like 10 or 15%

Mikey: 20:39

border for sure. And just he does he What was his reasoning behind not wanting to take it just just not that he said that? He didn't give him the nickname? Yeah, he was just like, I don't know. He did. Yeah, he

Jeff: 20:48

was like yeah you don't owe me nothing but love is what you say just show me love that okay? Yeah but this is my way of showing your love take this money my fucking

Mikey: 20:55

life too much of it. Oh yo yeah that's great.

Jeff: 20:59

Pete Rock put out a tweet and I didn't know that I'm actually see if y'all notice pete rock said I just had a random thought about this. Do you all know that rock Kim only Kirsten one song and his entire career? I mean, I know the song he Causton Do you guys know? I don't know. I didn't even know he had only Kirsten one song. Now that I think about do you really? Don't listen to rock Kim Kherson? Yeah, that no.

Mikey: 21:21

I know. I can't. I must say I don't know his catalog deeply enough to say which song it was. But neither. Yeah, that's true, actually. I mean, that's there was a lot less swearing in that era, I

Jeff: 21:30

guess. And then when the rumors came out that he was writing for Will Smith and it made sense. Because Wilson have had that flow. And of course that he's a clean rapper. Yeah. Big Willie Stiles already wrote like the nose. The rumor? Summertime Yeah, the rumor was oh, summertime grew slightly transformed just a bit of a break from the norm and the

Mikey: 21:49

norm. Yeah, remember we talked about sound like Right? Yeah, that's true. That's actually my

Jeff: 21:53

grammar real quick. Passive bullshit. I don't know. Nobody has either denied or confirmed that he did. So it's probably one of those highlights. Like give me the money and I won't say shit

Mikey: 22:02

like that. Pete Rock did the the ultimate Jeopardy question though. That's great.

Jeff: 22:05

Which one? What's the song? Oh, oh, he's looking it up?

Mikey: 22:09

I don't know. I can't think of I don't know what the song is. This one is it the new one of those the new ones? Did he swear in the premier song? I don't know. I can't think of it.

Anthony: 22:17

No, I did not pick up he got me looking up shit. You know? What song The Rock Kim swear.

Mikey: 22:24

I'm swearing

Anthony: 22:25

because Google can tell you everything wrong to rock him swear on.

Mikey: 22:32

You don't need to have any information in your brain anymore. I can just outsource it to the Google's

Anthony: 22:37

yo. said My Melody. Oh, really? What was he saying? Did he say like shit are so darn it? Definitely not he didn't say that word.

Mikey: 22:50

Googling and looking up information makes for really good podcast

Anthony: 22:53

because Google is awesome. Like, you can almost find anything deep like Google. I'm not going to dive like yep.

Mikey: 23:00

It shows you it'll tell you exactly. Oh, yeah.

Jeff: 23:04

Like shit. Gotta make it worth it. To summertime thing real quick. Like listen to it slow. It's like right, the transform just a bit of a break from the norm that has gotten out of control the School of Dance behind? Yeah. That's like, yeah, that's that's rockin flow. We got to look at that credit. Credit rockin like, what's rock qinzhou name? You probably see his name on the credits. And she was one of the writers assumption. Maybe? No, that is right. I think the real names rockin my luck as a man. Hmm. But staying on Will Smith. He was on with sway. He did a little. And you tell me how you feel about this? Because you know, I'm excited about it. Check it out. Sway was taught was Would you ever

Unknown: 23:51

do it versus say? Yeah, you know, I was I was thinking about VNL we're talking about do I really have never had a chance to write my book.

Anthony: 24:04

Okay. And that's what he said. He said he wants you to do oh, those those battles of the Smiths. I mean, I'm with it. I don't know if he got a catalog for ll definitely. I think Wilson was an entertainer. Look. Well, I know you're going through a lot with the book. Don't do it. Don't do it. I think I'd much rather him. Not a front. Because no, because the thing is that he's gonna think it's fun. Cool. kids laugh and mad at him.

Mikey: 24:31

I was gonna come swimming.

Jeff: 24:33

I think it'll be fun. It'll be fun. The Battle of the Smiths. I'm

Mikey: 24:36

gonna probably have to bring his kids in with their songs or something. I have to bring a little light on.

Anthony: 24:42

An lll take has to because we're seeing just the two of us some bigger shit

Jeff: 24:50

growing I'm still waiting for that. Will Smith met the man LL Cool J Salma because nothing on that book has met the man met them it has been saying you know for the last couple years now that he wants to do a song with them. Since they're all Smith you know I'm saying wants to do like a Smith song. You know, I mean? Mm hmm. Cool. I think it would be fun. I think it'd be dope. You know, I'm saying three Hip Hop legends. Yeah, let's go back to the Google machine.

Mikey: 25:17

I don't really think of Will Smith as a hip hop legend.

Jeff: 25:20

But he is though he is though. First rap Grammy. Yeah, he is.

Mikey: 25:23

Okay, well yeah, sure. I mean, so I don't have a second episode where I'm calling someone corny. No.

Jeff: 25:33

Grammy for whatever that's worth Yeah, he's one of the numerous rappers to go from rapper to success.

Mikey: 25:38

And Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I mean, there was that was actor No, and he's probably wasn't Hip Hop show.

Jeff: 25:42

And he's clearly the highest paid actor, you know, rapper turned actor. Yeah. I mean, so you got to Go. You gotta go. You gotta go Miss flowers at the end of the day. You gotta win an Oscar. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I mean, personally, my favorite actor,

Mikey: 25:54

but busy Yeah, really? Yeah. Wow, that's a big statement.

Jeff: 25:58

He's just crazy, bro. When it comes to shit tastes and movies it makes sense now we got it what's your favorite name five ship movies that he's made. He's made several but yeah, you know you can't say all these movies a shit. Concussion Wild Wild West. Concussion wasn't bad concussion was Stop it. Stop shooting a man bale concussion was shit. That after Earthship was shit after a Wild Wild Wild West Wild Wild West was shit. That's fun. That was fun. Seven pounds was shit. No, I'm not giving you that. Yes it was I'm not gonna I'm I want to die and donate my organs just kill yourself with the other one where it was when he was depressed and this was like a three tears but what is your acting bad in these movies? Okay, the movie the scripts could be bad, but it's the acting bad. Yeah, and he was supposed to be Nydia when he turned that shut down, which was a mistake on his part. He was supposed to be Neo in the Matrix that you're supposed to be Neo he turned that down in Django. He turned that now. Huh? Okay, sometimes these guys read the script and like I don't want it for every good actor you can name some scripts they turn down you know, I'm saying everybody's turned down some sure they read the script. I don't like this shit. But when you're that good if an actor you elevate your shit, no matter what you also turned down him and his boy turned down house party. Oh, really? Jazzy jazz didn't play that up. That script was for them. And there was like, I don't know. And they gave it to kitten play. didn't end up pic and terrible shit. I think because Will Smith has such an early career run, where he was basically Mr. Fourth of July. Mm, that cinemas? I should Okay, so our let me put in his perspective was not around that second part of that, which was a good, good one, right? He's not a great actor. But he is a great movie star, if that makes any sense. But he's diverse, though. I get that. Is that correct? He's diverse, whatever. But that's what makes him agree. Because he makes comedy. He makes action. He makes drama. You know? I mean, he does it all right. But if I watch that scene, you go watch that scene with him and Uncle Phil and fresh friends where his father left them and he's crying. And you tell me that's not good acting? It's a big scene. But that was we don't get we don't. We don't get that from him all the time. But we know that he's capable of doing that. But we got it from him all the time. You would think he's a good actor. You would think he's Denzel Washington. I'm not Yeah, no, he's not that I'm not saying he's the best actor of all time. But what I'm saying is I like his diversity. He can give you a bad boys and an Independence Day. You know what I'm saying in a men and black. And then he can give you the seven pounds and he can give you the dramatic performances. And he we know he's a comedian because he came from comedy. And a thing but well, is that because it because of the movies? He picks he only does so many. Isn't he's not like Samuel Jackson Samuel lbu some shit. Never do. What he's admits to

Mikey: 28:35

the plan. No,

Anthony: 28:36

doesn't reject any script. He does that thing. He's the first one on top. We're in Bolivia, and we're supposed to be smuggling cocaine. But we found these last monkey that we got to take to Antarctica.

Mikey: 28:48

Yeah. Well, I think he's like one of those actors. Where if you just if the money's right, he'll do anything. Like he won't say no.

Jeff: 28:54

No, he was in Jurassic Park. Part one. But you sure? Yeah. Now?

Mikey: 29:00

He's the computer guy.

Anthony: 29:03

Yeah. But, I mean, I'm like, I'm letting you know. Right now. When you watch King Richard, there's no other man doesn't deserve an Oscar. That should is so good. Oh, it's actually yet. It came out yesterday. My session is so good. He's so hard watch. No, no, it's not a hard watch. Because one part that might make you cry like he's something happens with Venus. Nothing crazy. They had this conversation about like, how he feels about things and so on, so forth. And now like, Ah, man, it's getting missing here. Yeah. Yeah, he's allergies are fucking me.

Mikey: 29:37

I mean, well, when he lands when he like hits in the right role, he there's nobody better. I will say that hitch is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Jeff: 29:46

But so that's what the comedy, right? Yeah.

Mikey: 29:49

But romantic comedies are. That's a hard thing to do, right?

Jeff: 29:54

There's only a couple of people that have mastered that shit. Like Jennifer Aniston and was the guy Ben Stiller, or whatever. That's his name. Right. Ben Stiller.

Mikey: 30:03

Yeah, I mean, he's the Fockers. He's an actor. Oh, yeah.

Anthony: 30:07

His movies are basically romantic comedies type of shit. Hmm. But no, no, what was gonna hit? She was gonna focus too.

Mikey: 30:14

Oh, yeah. That was good. What was the movie where he was the drunk superhero? Oh, yeah. Hickok Hey, dude, I

Jeff: 30:19

love that. Yeah,

Mikey: 30:21

it's such a good movie. And nobody really talks about I brought it up the other day and someone was like, I never watched it looks so stupid. Great movie.

Jeff: 30:28

Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. I want to review some of these new albums man. Mm hmm. Thanks for listening to the culture podcast. We'll be right back after a quick word from our sponsors.

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Jeff: 32:03

They represent a culture to represent the culture podcast. Yo yo yo we back man before we get into these album reviews, let's just knock this out real quick. I want to get your take on the gentleman that just got off 18 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. I call him Ryan House for killing the two gentlemen at the Black Lives Matter rally and blowing the bicep off another one which they just see that they showed that you don't see and then that's it was gruesome. What kind of gun that he had. He was just blowing people's arms off. Ar 15 Yeah, I'll give you my opinion. They gotta go. I mean, I was kind of surprised that they can get charged with nothing. At the end of the day, you know, I'm saying he went on stage you know drove over state lines to a place you know, he wasn't even from there. He was lying about I'm here to protect certain stores he had nothing to do with a shooting people and when you see the video, you know he's walking around her a guy's rifle when cops will I handed him water and shit like what like he's one of them. But some shit fuck dude, like, so I'm kind of surprised he got off. But the real case that I'm concerned with is the Amar Aubrey case. Because if that dude gets free, then it's gonna go down. We're gonna see all kinds of writing. So you know this dude, he just killed two white guys and he injured another so you know, not that I don't care. white lives matter. Yeah, obviously. But I feel like it's different. You know, I'm saying.

Mikey: 33:18

I'm just saying Don't say weight loss, man.

Jeff: 33:22

I'm gonna get back next week when people send me back home boy, whatever guy. He's a free man.

Mikey: 33:27

I mean, you know, I don't know what to say about it. It's it's just so fucking stupid. Our system is so broken. And it's you know, he was underage. He had an assault. He had a military grade assault weapon like, and he I mean, I was at a bunch of protests in Portland. And there was people with guns but like they they were absolutely taken out of the crowd as quickly as possible. He was being celebrated the way he was walking around with his fucking hat on backwards. Like it was a video game. He's all amped up. I don't know, man. It's just It's shocking. I can't believe it happened watching him try to fake cry on the stand was like, that was the worst. I was like, Yo, that was so good. What's happening here?

Jeff: 34:01

Yo, But yo, like, I see a lot of people online posting shit like okay, let's not act like the people he killed were innocent victims. And they put like their profile there, you know, whatever, they're rapists or they did time for this and they were walking around with illegal weapons. You know, whatever the case may be like if they don't like if somehow justifies you know, I'm saying him killing them. Yeah, that's stupid argument. And it'd be some somebody posted somebody put, let's be clear if a black 17 year old had crossed state lines to armed himself with an illegally acquired assault rifle, attended a maga rally picked a fight and shot three people killing two of them. The trial would simply be a formality. He'd be in prison for life. And that might be true.

Mikey: 34:38

I mean, yeah, obviously. And it's, you know, the other part of it is that I think, you know, this is a scared kid with a huge weapon. There. I remember who the sheriff was sheriff of, I don't know, I can't remember where it was anyways, but he said this one Sheriff at one point said I only hire people to be on my police force that have either been in war, and I've actually seen scary things, or have at least been in a bunch of fights. But you have to know how to handle scary situations. You watch the way that that kid handled himself that night. He was terrified. And he was just and then he had this huge weapon so he was able to do whatever he wants. He's a fucking coward.

Anthony: 35:13

Oh, no. You take you know what America loves more than white people. White killers.

Mikey: 35:19

Take like like like

Anthony: 35:21

white people like third in the list of things that America loves most money like that that flag money poverty that you need in life. Not money close that flag is first. Some reason they just obsessed with this shit. Like, they pretty much ended a man's career over it. Second, and I wouldn't call a second is really one A is that they just love guns. We love guns in this country though. So the fact that this white kid went to another town to shout A bunch of other white people. I wasn't surprised that he got off. I wasn't surprised at the reaction of that Judge acting like an asshole being very specific that you can call the other people, looters and writers but cannot call them victims of a pretty piss poor prosecution team. Yeah, the way that it started from the very beginning, it was just they were trying to fight for mistrial. They were trying to do everything in their power to get this kid off. Yeah, I wasn't like surprised by this ending, like, like, the people or the police work, they call it like, I think 150 National Guardsmen just in case of ready didn't go their way. I'm like, I want to worry about this guy diverted, he's gonna be just fine, because we love guns in this country. And the fact that this guy is a patriot, and came here to defend his country, that they love that narrative. And it's still painting with it like, fucking brick road from silver spoons, tossing some money for bail. I'm like, is that true? Now while I'm talking, he wrote a shot that literally shot that man some bail, so he can go and get himself out of jail. It's not surprising. It's just indicative of this country. I'm in before Jeff. He said if a 17 year old kid had crossed state lines with an AR 15 shot three people that he would be in prison right now. I said, you don't have to go to the extremist part of that law. Tamir Rice is 11 year old kid playing in a park with a toy gun, not pulled right up. No warning, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang shot that kid did. Yeah, at a toy gun, not a real one to some kid playing in the park playing soldiers and shit like we would do as a kid and he gets murdered, though. It's not outside the realm of possibility that this happens. And people say things like, why does this keep happening because you guys are idiots. Because you guys think the most important thing that you can do to vote every four years, nobody gives a fuck about the president, the president doesn't make changes on these levels, your senators, your governors, the people that's supposed to represent you, the people that you want to get these laws change. So when you want to talk about gun control, and everything else to that degree, you put them into office, those are the people that can go into their voting booth, this press a button and all of them light up like I did my part, you don't really worry about the issues that go on in community. This is why things like that happen. judges are elected officials, the the prosecutor, their elected official, they don't give them the job, they have to actually apply for it to be voted into it. If you don't like the decision, you can vote them out. But you keep just kind of riding the party line, focus on what's going on in the world, man, like we're all human, we're all here, we should have the ability to protect ourselves, but also the right and liberty to not be able to worry about if I'm going to be out here protesting for something that I think is wrong with this country, that I'm going to die for the three white guys out there protesting the live of Jeep of Jacob Blake, who got shot, who was now paralyzed, to talk about the inadequacies of the laws itself. And the way that crime itself is so unevenly distributed amongst people of color and whites. And they went out there, they lost a life trying to do the right thing. He thought he was doing the right thing, trying to protect his country. That stupid if you're home watching it, stay at home. That's why there's police there to try to keep things civil and keep the peace. It's not your job, but you decide to make your job and there's two people who are not going to be here for Thanksgiving. And one guy pretty much would have mission fucking bicep, and he's gonna go home scot free and have turkey this is the country that we live in. These are things that we need to change about the conversation that we need to have, if you don't want to have them cool. But when things start changing, don't try to add them to it. I don't think we should do this shoot that we're trying to move a path forward and kind of get over this shit because everyone gets tired of it. And every time it keeps happening, we keep saying I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. Cool. What are you doing to change is the question of the action if you don't feel like answering a question, get the fuck out. But you mentioned how people love that patriotic show. You know, a white man comes with his rifle. He's defending his country and people love that shit. But why is it only patriotic when the white man does? And I'm saying why isn't it patriotic when you know black folk try to defend their country. I mean, this is their country too, you know, but it's not it's not viewed the same. It's not viewed as patriotism when black people are trying to stand up for something you know, I mean, societal as he was as rebellion with black people try to protest or defend whatever that's that's viewed as rebellion when white man is trying to defend their country that's Patriot patriotism. I mean, it's in this country is bred into us. I mean, like I said, like you got older people who grew up watching Westerns you know, people of color knows you grew up watching war movies. You know, people call it knows all the heroes are always white guys Superman's white gotten your copies your your comments, your religion, your books, your your TV shows everything. It's the hero The Savior is always somebody who not person of a particular ethnicity, they generally white, and it's bred into over and over and over and over again. So it seems like this is what's right. But heroes comes in all shapes and sizes. That's why we people fight for like think about critical race theory, you know, and that they fight for more inclusion about certain societies, Latino, Hispanic, Hawaiian, Mexican, but because they all had these hills, they all had their hair, they have all these people that have fought for injustice over society, but we only, you know, talk about, you know, our presidents or our generals or shit like that. They're bigger stories that we had to kind of get past but we never kind of get to them because people feel we don't have the time. We got to we got to find time we got to make time for cuz surely this is gonna keep happening until we realize that a hero is not the person that should be of any color the hero, the person that wants to put their life in line to try to correct a wrongness in society. And that's what those gentlemen were trying to do. cost them their lives. I don't know what this kid was trying to do. It seemed like he's trying to go down please GI Joe. He was successful. Now he gets to go home free. Alright, moving on. Now, thing another thing Rakshit? No, no, I'm not I'm not ready to go to bed. It was a opinion on this. The two men that were convicted of killing Malcolm X back in the 60s are being exonerated validating long held doubts about who killed the civil rights leader.

Mikey: 41:24

I don't know about the story. What was the change in what was the evidence, like DNA stuff? Or how do they

Anthony: 41:29

know there's no evidence coming up? But why? Why 50 years later, they still you know, I'm saying they find that shit to exonerate these dudes. And now does that open up the case again, like who really killed it? You know, I'm saying it's like the whole OJ shit okay, of OJ didn't do it. Who did? Because if he didn't do it, that's fine. But we still got to figure out who did right. Welcome. They never you know that the case never gets reopened when she like this happens. The uh, who killed who, like, for example, like, if we go to like, Micromax two guys that killed Mokum are being exonerated. Right, you know, I'm saying and I go back to like, okay, the OJ shit. You know, I mean, if OJ didn't do it, that who did? Come on, man, we're not doing that. Oh, she did that. But my point is, you know, if okay, if we're saying that this person didn't do it, then shutting the case be reopened and we still got to investigate to who did maybe the only problem it's gonna run into because because of the age of it, whoever might have done it, they just might be dead. I mean, what Permian 65? Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna find a new information, but like, what's really going to change? Like, I know, there's a documentary, no Netflix not too long ago that who killed Malcolm X. And they were talking about a bunch of guys who are probably a part of it, or did it and so on and so forth. I don't know if this had anything to do with the case. But the whole thing really comes down to like, if these guys I mean, this thing, the guys were exonerated, but like think one's already dead and one's not. I mean, you're clear my record 55 years later, I mean, they did like over 20, over 20 years in prison, and I'll put the New York Times article in our show notes, we can read up on it, but they say, This is what the article says. For decades, historians have cast doubt on the case against the two men Muhammad Aziz and Khalil Islam, who each spent more than 20 years in prison. Their exoneration represents a remarkable acknowledgment of grave errors made in the case of towering importance, the 1965 murder of one of America's most influential black leaders. Yeah, I don't say kudos. Mr. Aziz, who was released in 1985. Mr. Islam was was 1987. And Islam died in 2009 at age 74. It's not much you can say or do in regards to the specimen like you exonerated Jews like exoneration, like basically, like all the latest and like, you know what, my bad, right? It's gonna do for me, right? Yo,

Mikey: 43:29

but damage has already been done. I mean, if they didn't kill him, then of course they have to do did that's what I'm saying. And who knows, it's probably going to be a podcast that's going to reopen it and saw your case and crowdsource that shit. Ain't gonna

Jeff: 43:41

die for that book. You know, speaking of chicken and burgers, young golf got murdered a few days ago. And I don't know anything about his music. You know, I mean, I'm not into these, these new young rappers. An ant would know more about him than I would, but it's just another.

Mikey: 43:54

He was 36. Really? Damn, he's not that young. Dolph

Anthony: 44:01

is young, salty, young golf. I

Mikey: 44:03

only know him from two Chainz stuff, but

Anthony: 44:05

it's another senseless rap killing a shootout with a gang related and do we know do we know what it was about? Right now? I don't know by No shit. And then people are still getting shot at his grave site. You know, I'm saying people going to his grave site and busting out shots like Jesus. Yes. When is this gonna stop but but it just like I said before, there's I don't think America live more than anything else is like sample size. That flag has guns. And like said, there's a way to figure this out and solve this to, you know, they're gonna catch whoever did it because they got caught on camera. I don't think there's gonna be one of unsolved murder things. Some people just can't help but to not talk about themselves. It's going to come up, and they're going to get caught and so on so forth. But all the extenuating gun violence afterwards and like, what have you learned here? Like he got gunned down now we're still shooting at each other. And that's the frustrating part, like, witness want to make you think that you might want to put your weapons down, but you're still doing the same little shit. Like, that's the problem I said about conversations, thought, clarity, the things that have to be brought to the forefront, to have discussion about how to really fix things. How do you really solve the Christian community? Because this gun stop shit, it's not going to hurt. It's not going to help. Yeah, and I understand that, you know, people love guns. I mean, I personally don't. But the problem is that the majority of the people that get you know, that are victims of gun violence are minorities, blacks and Latinos. You know,

Mikey: 45:21

why don't you just you you look at someone like Kyle Rittenhouse like that dude doesn't need a gun. Like That dude is like he lives in a safe middle class neighborhood. He's choosing to have a gun. There are plenty of people in our country that need gun for protection. And I just think that it's you know, you look at Gabby Giffords from Arizona she got shot in the head by a guy and she's still at the forefront she's tip of the spear for gun rights. And it's just I don't know, man. I don't know how you fight how you fight that.

Anthony: 45:46

One of these guys Our whole conversation about guns and shit. Not today. Not today, but one day. Yeah,

Mikey: 45:52

it's an interesting argument because I mean, it is, you know, I don't it's super complex and I get it.

Jeff: 45:58

But I learned a little bit more time. Yeah, I want to get into these album reviews. Mike, I know you said you have to go. You have somewhere to

Mikey: 46:03

be. I do. I do have to go at some point. Yeah, but 20 minutes,

Jeff: 46:07

listen to all the new albums that came out. So I'm going to start with the new Joelle Joelle Ortiz joint called autograph. I'll give you my take. And yeah, give me your mics. We're going I'm gonna make this in a, you know, on a current thing. Every week, new albums come out, we review them and give out the mics. We're gonna be the new stores magazine. So what I thought thought about the Joelle shit. I thought it was a mature, it's mature, taking life of a rapper and he's a rappers rapper. I like jurulatih He's a rappers rapper. And you know, he talks about his life. He talks about what he's doing now. He's not in the streets. No more. He's going home depot. He has he talks about having a house in the suburbs of Jersey. He has a family, you know what I mean? So this is what he's doing. You know, he spits bits he storytelling is compelling. It's relatable. Like I said, he talks about his family life now. You know, I mean, he's my type of rapper. He got production from Apollo brown on there. Salaam Remi is on there, heat makers is on it. I think those are the three main ones so I think is one of my Top Albums of the year is missing that one or two instant hit shit, you know, I mean, it doesn't have like any instant classics. There are no real standout songs but not settled. There's no real automatic classics, you know, I'm saying and there's, you know, there's no one beat that really stands out to me. So just for that, but I like it a lot more. Give it three and a half mics.

Mikey: 47:12

I gave it three minutes. And this is an example of a I mean, would we call him an Eminem associated AX slaughterhouse?

Jeff: 47:19

Not really. He was signed to Eminem but he was doing should wait before even Eminem signed him.

Mikey: 47:23

Yeah, but it means with Royce and stuff. I mean, I just think he's great lyricist, a great storyteller. I think it was the beats that were kind of lacking for me a little bit like there was a couple songs that came out real strong but his lyrics were

Anthony: 47:36

his lyrics. And I named you three dope producers two that did all the songs and still it's not like a standout beat so I think that it would have been a full mic for me but just because it has a three and a half mics. I think I feel the same way I think what happened is that even though you have those name producers to it, I don't necessarily that their type of beats and their type of rhythm fit his type of style his type of flow like I mean his his flow is always going to be that like say he's always been a very good rapper, but I think the production did let him down just a little bit because I think you hear that name but audio has some fire but that that final match with everything and everybody that goes when an artist like he needs something simpler soul samples just just let him speak speak those lyrics and tell them stories make life a little easier. I mean the beats okay, but they just don't fit in artists like him want anything else? Yeah, and I remember him from that Nissan the Chevy that's the first time I ever heard oil number that shit back in the day. Alright album I listen to that just came out was king without a throne. kW Oatey quote it's from it's an up and coming artists name is quill.

Mikey: 48:43

Does this is this from the album from the record label that the person told me to get off the revolt

Jeff: 48:48

record? That's him. That's

Mikey: 48:50

evil records. I saw that on the king without a throne. That's funny. Not only is he gonna hate me but Eminem he's gonna hit me about what I thought about this.

Anthony: 48:57

give you honest review. I listened to it on title. It's very ambitious project. Like I said he's up and coming artists is very ambitious. The one song Baraka Baroque br o br o qu he or even how to pronounce it, bro. Bro. That's my shit. That's my favorite show. That's probably because it's deep. It's so full with it has my favorite beat on the album. It has like a boom bap you know, I'm saying like I've been open about or like the way she I don't like that trap shit. You know, I'm saying yeah. Um, so that's my favorite show for all too. Like I said, it's too many eight. Oh, wait type and trap beats for my tastes. For what? It's a solid project though. I guess that from an up and coming artists, I would give it maybe a two and a half to three mics. I'll probably give it three mics just because I'm a little biased. But I'm gonna give it two and a half. I can't give. I can't give his album more than I gave to Well, I can't do what you gave. I gave him three, three. Okay, but I gave him to him two and a half. I mean, that's, that's saying a lot for upcoming guy to have an album that I think is probably just below what Joel Ortiz put out and he's a veteran in hip hop. But I think for what it is, the guy has talent. Yeah, I'm not going to disregard that. I think it's one of the this is first I'm gonna second think it's second to be a second. Second. Yeah, I think it's still kind of like a feeling through process. Like I think the problem that we actually run into a lot in hip hop is that we run into the NAS effect I think like you got to come up with a hammer No I think is something that you get actually get better over time. Like people that know to be the greatest I gotta hit him up No, no, your your talent your craft develops, you get better you grow older, you get more experiences, you learn more things about life, you get a better ear for selection and pings and how this should fit and how that should sound. I think it sounds like a person who's in the process of getting that you're not there yet. Like say a little too much. It'll wait for my taste. But like, the content lyricism is there, you just just give it some more time. Just like be more careful what your selections think about. Like, if you're trying to tell this story like does this sound really does it? Does it, push it forward? Or does it like take away from it and I A lot of people run into that. But what the product is what I heard when I was on title. I liked it like I played it three times. So I fucks with it. Go ahead go ahead Mike. We're going to get back

Mikey: 50:57

so this is it. No, no, no, it's this is his first album too. It's you know the thing to me it feels like it just to me it felt like it just needed a little bit of editing. A little bit of tightening up Yeah. Which is not his voice. His voice is fucking sick. I love the way rhymes to me it's you know, and Jeff and I are kind of in the same camp as far as like I like boom bap stuff. I like things that are a little bit quicker. It was a little to kind of gutter and grimy and slow for me, which I love that sometimes but even with that Grizelda or something I kind of liked them more up tempo stuff I like things that are a little bit anyways but overall out for the first shot out the gate like I don't know I'm really interested to see what he does. I'm gonna give it to Mike's just because I feel like he's got a lot more potential.

Jeff: 51:35

And that Baroque was my favorite give me a whole album like that folk song. It'd be like full mic for me like I like the subject. Yeah, you know, I mean, I like every night I agree. next album I listened to was the Apollo Brown and Stolley called backlight back black, black light. Black Light. You guys have fun with the words mainly black light, Baroque, man, shame back like shit black light. The beats are on point I like Apollo brown to me. He's one of the best producers right now. I like all I like all his shield. I go on YouTube and I listened to Apollo brown instrumental and I loved all the lyrics on point. Again, I got the same the same complaint is you know, there's nothing really that stands out that's my only complaint is just like the Joe's or TEAS out. There's nothing that stands out to me that you can say I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna hear this on the radio. There's no radio songs. There's no instant like real hit single, you know? I mean, I would like to see Apollo brown collab with bigger artists don't like on a whole project. You know, I'm saying because obviously, you know, stalling no offense to him. He's not he's not moving the needle. You know, I'm saying he's not somebody you're checking for. Yeah, but overall, I gave it I gave it three mics.

Mikey: 52:42

I actually have not heard this album yet, but go check it out. But I agree with everything you're saying. I really like him as an artist. And I'd like to see him work more people.

Anthony: 52:49

And did you listen to it? Yeah, I did. I like I like I like Sally's I fuck with Sally Sally homeboy with the beard, right? He's dope. Yeah, I like him.

Mikey: 52:58

It's got a really clean beard. I'm trying to that's my aspirational beard.

Anthony: 53:02

They both got a beard right Apollo Brown got a nice beard too. Huh? Oh no, I don't really being a man face like that give it but what are you getting? What do you get that album that I gave it two and a half four I think yeah, I just think the project solid like it's like okay, so if you're going by Mike's like fives a classic four is very good three is like pretty good. Like Eminem said the only people that get five according to what you call it is according to source was Biggie jig or not us and nobody else got five bikes in Benzino and Benzino. Like I own a company and like I said, like say hip hop is hard now because like I said before, like it was a time and place we have like the label machine behind you now it's pretty much like do it yourself. And when you're doing it yourself you really got to be like really focused on what you're doing. I think I don't think that he's misguided on focus on the art itself or the album itself. I think they actually did pretty good. I think it's just one of the things when I listened to it like I like it and I want more but I need I need something that's going to hold me and it didn't do it. Like I gave it to like the one player one listen to it and that was it. But I really really really like the voice I like the flow. I like the partnership with Stanley but I think just a bit more. So it at least I can honestly say it's enough that the next product that he comes out with I really want to listen to but just you know, like Buster give me some we'd be good to go. Next album was the French Montana they got amnesia ship. I've never been a French fan and I don't know why. Maybe it's too much auto tunes perhaps I don't know the album isn't bad at all. His lyrics are on point when he actually raps because sometimes he decides to do this the singing share or the mumble share which is where he loses me. The production on this is actually top notch. I like that FW mgib song that's the one with samples that Lord sorry computer guns should that deja vu intro they use on the intro but that's actually a sample from salsa singer Jerry Rivera that I wouldn't know anything about. He had a song called more disco more in Westeros. So that's so that's the classic. That's a classic function call me. Y'all would know that because I know because I know you don't listen to salsa music.

Mikey: 55:12

So you wouldn't know about I haven't on wax actually.

Anthony: 55:16

I played it every day when I brush my teeth. resent Dee Dee

Mikey: 55:22

Did anybody get your molars?

Jeff: 55:26

Perfect 30 seconds. Got it. All the plaque off? No, but I like the way French uses it here. Like the way they did that shit was dope. I like that being a lot. He has I liked the show he did with John Legend and Rick Ross. Touch the Sky. That might be the best song on the album. I like that one. He got the share with fabulous which is probably my third favorite song on there. He got pop smoke on the album he got done Was your cat on the album he got tied dollar signs on there some others but but my but this is the problem the three songs I mentioned. Those are my favorite songs because then all sudden he goes from boom bap to trap. So technically I can only like I like half the album you know I'm saying because then he does the whole trap shit that he turns he got the HOA shit he goes to the singing shed that mumbling shit. So you know, and that's probably why he's successful because I compare him French, Montana to me. He's a mix of old school boom bap, with trap and with mumble rap, all combined into one, you know, I'm saying. So he appeals he appeals to everybody. That's why I think makes him successful today. You know, I mean, he appeals to everybody. But I like when he's doing he's really rapping when he's doing his storytelling. He when he's using the boom bap beats and shit like that. That's what I like. And he loses me when he does other shit. But that's fine. I'm not gonna take away points from him from that, because I know that, you know, there's other people that are into that shit. Um, you know, I come from the five Mike arrow. So this it was just okay to me. You know, I'm saying, for some reason, you hear Diddy in the background of a couple songs. And then I looked, I looked into the credits, and they don't even he's not even on the credits. But I know I heard Diddy in the background of two different songs. And he's like, Yeah, take that. Oh, you know, whatever he'd be saying in the background of song. So I'm sure he got money for that can't stop won't stop. But when I looked at the credit, I don't see Diddy. I don't see Sean Combs. I don't see his name on another portion. So I don't know what he was, you know,

Mikey: 57:05

in the studio. He was just there and they just just drunk on the fire escape yelling in

Anthony: 57:10

but I gave out I gave his album overall, three mics. It's solid. It's very solid. Good. I was gonna say I agree. I give it three. Okay, that's fine. I do I do. I think it's uh, it's him. He's in a weird spot. Because he's really kind of like in for career wise. He's kind of in the window like a little bit after like a contemporary Ross. But on his album, he has like the guys that are kind of quote unquote, like after him, like pop Fabio. I mean, Ross is on it. But like, Kodak money back? Yeah. But I was like that. Yeah. I mean, I mean, fabs above all of them. Because like, say he's a he's an older gentleman, but I think for what it was, is very introspective and personal. Like kind of speaking about what he's been going through like his past two years. Like I like Frank's had a bunch of hits like printers were actually one of the guys I'd be interested in seeing in the verses, and might not sound it but when you actually go over discography and a song that he's been known in the hits that he's had, yeah, he's gotten, it'd be super interesting. But all No, I definitely think it was a good album. I think the thing, what I want, what I don't want to happen is I don't want people to pull away from the album itself, because there was there was a track that was pulled off it, I think it was him and Drake, but I think at the time, it was like a verse that Drake might have been saying some shit about Kanye, or yay, on the song. So that's why he pulls it off to the end, like squash the beef or whatever. So that's why that's not on there. I was interested in hearing, it'll pop out eventually, so and so forth. But for fringe for what it is, I wasn't expecting to be such a good project. But it really is. And I really liked it. And I'm going to probably take a listen to a little bit later. But for me, it's a three out of five. Go ahead of my last one. You go.

Mikey: 58:47

All right. Well, so the funny part about it is that I kind of I kind of went through the album pretty quickly, but I listened deeply listen to probably half of it. And I think I heard the half that you were talking about Jeff, like I really I was surprised how much I liked the album. I haven't really dipped into a lot of the songs that were maybe more Trappy and stuff that I might not like it from what I've heard, I would give it three mics. Like I really, I really liked it. I like his style. Yeah, he's always he always surprises me. I always kind of forget about him. And then I hear and I'm like, oh, yeah, like I dig him. And yeah, I do. Speaking of everything I have to go to the to a dentist appointment. Actually, as we're talking about brushing our teeth, I'm going to go play that song. Yeah.

Jeff: 59:22

The album I listened to was the Jedi mind trick the funeral and the raven and they always on point, but this album was underwhelming to me. This was not a I didn't like any songs on it. I'm gonna give this shit like a 1.5 mics respectfully. And that's just because of their name because of their history and their legacy was you know, I mean,

Mikey: 59:38

I just think production man, it's like one stoop was gone to me. It's kind of things fell.

Jeff: 59:42

Yeah, yeah. But we're gonna let Mike go, man, and you know, you guys can keep talking if you want. We're gonna keep talking, but I'm gonna let you go to your dentist appointment. All right.

Mikey: 59:53

Thank you, guys. I never I never mentioned it. But this is the first time I've ever gonna mention it. I actually have a podcast with my wife called Mikey and Rin. Stan, it's a funny show. We talked about trying to make a baby. It's about infertility. It's about Dick and fart jokes. It's about music. Tune in. It's awesome. We're actually launching a new podcast as well called Mikey and Rin eat in, where we're gonna have cookbook authors come to our house and we're gonna cook their recipes from their cookbooks with them and talk about music.

Jeff: 1:00:20

No food, and fun. I've heard your lock as funny as hell. I'll put the links in the show notes so people could check it out. Thanks, man. I'm pretty

Mikey: 1:00:27

alright you guys. I'll talk to you soon. All right,

Anthony: 1:00:29

bye, Mike. Bye, man. I want to thank Mike Hershey for stopping by once again a couple other things I want to get into before we before we go. Mandatory sports you know we got to start talking points now man. They got us up there in the sports category. We got to start mentioning this shit. apprentices are ranked so highly Sure. Antonio Brown. Why receiver for him The Tampa Bay Buccaneers is accused of obtaining a fake COVID vaccine card. So he's under investigation and I don't know if they're gonna suspend them uh, what the funny shit is his own chef read his ass out. He was like my food. I'm gonna rat you the fuck out bitch not able to buy the food. You guys start paying people you gotta start talking when you stopped paying. That's true. How much you think he owes is that no person pay like probably like 10 grand some bullshit like that. Got it? No big deal because it No, it's small Antonio is big to him. 1010 G's that shift might mean a lot. 10 G's Antonio might. It's like, I don't understand why there is an investigation. It's not that hard. You have the mental security number. Like I said, everyone your your shot charts your records just like yo, give us a show. And we can tell if you've been vaccinated that is that simple. It's all in your shot chart like the health department of wherever you got it from knows. You said you got the shot and they'll see the card and so and so forth. Like you got the card right. Give us a card like this. They don't drag the shit out. It's like a 24 hour like Scooby Doo shit league would solve this. Don't give us your card. If it matches up. We're cool. If it doesn't, didn't you out of here simple. Is it safe to say he's gonna have a new chef? Pretty cool. He adds one now cuz you ain't paying fucking five Fuck y'all. I got a new chef. That is the old one he owed money to him. Holding a B and a pasty like all that shit and hand it off to his own mad people mad money. He's like he doesn't feel like paying them. So my cost and it cost him his career now but we're gonna see there's a video right now that's out I'm gonna put all these links on the show notes so you can check it out yourself. There's a video of former running back former JetBlue Zack convertases Well, don't put that one up there. I got to put it up. People got to see this shit, Dick. I'm just y'all just just Google Zack Stacy just just do that. Zach Stacy was caught on a home camera whooping his girlfriend's at his baby mama whatever. Whoop her ass bro he did like a pile of balmaha He did an Irish Whip he threw her into a TV he punched him in the head. He did a spear I think even choke slammed her at one point yo smack the up punched in the face. This video is very hard to watch that's what you're gonna put if they want to watch they can Google shut the damn stuff out and I remember having this freaking bastard and my fantasy like years ago when he was still playing you know I'm saying he was one of those dudes you plug in on a bye week. He's like a magnet you put them in and started running back like get you some points but she don't love all types of points with me after I saw this video I need to do something I need to jail his as he is talking about a bi weekly BI to be Bi Bi Bi Bi good. Every week for the next six years no one this year two things I can't tolerate is a man woman a females as or seeing kids get mistreated. When you see videos of babysitters or whatever being up on little kids. Those are two things I can't I have no stomach for shit like that, bro. You know, this is gonna sound pretty fucked up. Like if I saw a guy beating this woman like beating up on this woman I wouldn't intervene. And the sash it is I forgot there was like studies have concluded that like, every time there's like domestic violence, that usually takes women like something like seven times to leave demand before they finally leave him for good. Because the women keep coming back to him. For whatever reason they're afraid of leaving him and getting killed or whatever, or you know, this is he's the guy. He's all they know, they've been together for whatever the longest. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's a psychological issue. But these women that get abused physically, mentally, verbally by men, they usually stay with these guys, or they keep coming back to them. I know if I do too, then then you're looking at it, like why are you doing this? Why are you doing this to your kids? Why are you doing it to yourself? And the kids might be one of the reasons why they stay you know, I'm saying that's that's a common, you know, argument as to why women stay in relationship with because of the kids, you know, whatever, you know, they rely on him. He's the breadwinner, there's a lot of different reasons, you know, I'm saying there are a ton, but it kind of comes down to the whole thing. Like you don't really want to put yourself in that kind of situation where something has to be done, or you have to intervene and the people who go through those situations I like my my heartfelt my heart really does go out to you. But it's like, I can't really stop anybody from doing some shit that goes on in a relationship unless I'm getting that unless it's like I got the Will Smith book ladies and gentlemen got the Will Smith but I'm gonna start reading this joint and it's called will Anyway, go ahead. They just wait wait, wait, hold it. So you literally just got it. I just got it just handed it to me right now. So I'm showing it to you. I'm looking away who gave it to you. My sister just walked in and she handed it to like, look, I got a brand new book. Okay, so I don't I have an issue with men who put their hands on other women. I think it's wrong. It should never put your hands on anybody unless you're defending for your own life. The video itself like I said, I I'm not saying that you should watch it. I think that if it's out there, if you want to see it, you see it. It's a it's a very violent and very disgusting form of domestic violence. Whatever happens to him. I hope all hope the legal system was you already discussed that we had a problem with I hope they do whatever they need to do and make sure they put this man behind bars because that just seems so wholly unnecessary and just aggressively violent. Like it's ridiculous. I just I pray for everything comes through clear with that. But yeah, he's going to jail. Yeah. Okay. My final question to you is, is there a vaccine mandate at your employer? Yes. It's you had to be vaccinated be tested every week. As a matter of fact, I would like to talk to my friend Friday that they he did the test, because there's so many of us, they don't do the swab anymore. We do the spit one. He went in Monday and did the spit one. And we have a rule to job like if you don't put your if you don't have the results in by Thursday, they lock you out of the system. That means no pay, no nothing. So he did it Monday, but the company lost it, even though he put it in the box. And they don't know where the samples that so he couldn't even go to work Friday. So he had to go get another test to hopefully it gets done to submit it so he can put it into the system. So he can come back to work Monday. But do we have a mandate? Yes, we do. My job. They just sent us an email saying, if you're not vaccinated by March 1, I believe you're a goner. Get the fuck up out of here. You but you got to go home, but you got to get up out of this company knew that was coming out and I'm fine because I'm vaccinated. I've been open about it. They're also going to give us vaccinated for $300 So I'm cool with that. But yeah, we're getting money. Fuck, I'm gonna give us 100 But I know there's gonna be a lot of people that are not going to get vaccinated. You know, I'm saying so, you know, you're just waiting to see all right, which one of your co workers are gonna be gone? You know, I'm saying come Camarda we're going back to the office. January. Anyway. That's gonna be Yeah, we're going back. We got to go back January, January, I think is the first week right but it's a flat out was like a hybrid. Hybrid is gonna be hybrid. Okay. All right. That only got to come in a couple of times a week. So you mean to tell me anybody who's not unvaccinated? They got what bases they got a new job? Yeah. They want to see proof of the vaccine call you gotta submit it to them you know I'm saying better call Antonio Brown get it figured out Get that shit figured the fuck out but yeah, that's gonna be our time. I got this new logo campaign I sent it to you and respond to like the first one. He said the other two and they were like I like that one better like that one better. I like yeah, I liked the first one. The one we know we're like Yes. You know has like a little boombox says the culture podcast with Jeff and and etc, etc. I got it up on Twitter. I'll put it up on Facebook. Right now. So far the majority of people saying they like the new one. On Twitter. It's 71% to 29% say they like the new one. We got all this blue liquid Crips though. Yeah, but you know, it works though. I feel like it stands out more than the old the old one had all the will the current one I don't wanna say the old one. Oh, the current one has a lot of white you know I'm saying this one has white but has blue has black the back just stands this pops more. Yeah, and I'm just scrolling through it now. Like say I said, I see everything like I see a picture thinos Great.

Jeff: 1:08:38

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