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Systemic Racism

Systemic Racism

From racist cops walking out in North Carolina to Russia trying to trade Britney Griner. Also is Jeff racist for using impoverished Blacks as an example for the lack of diversity in baseball? Let's talk systemic racism.

Topics Discussed:

  • Will Smith makes apologetic video 
  • New Beyonce album and the Kelis backlash
  • What if superheroes took sick days
  • Why do serial killers usually have 3 names?
  • Entire police department quits in N.C. town
  • Lack of diversity in baseball

Referenced Links:
An entire North Carolina police department resigned after a Black woman town manager was hired - CNN

Kelis Calls Out Beyoncé for 'Theft' Over Using 'Milkshake' - Rolling Stone

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Jeff:

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Anthony:

Fucking clown fuck you

Jeff:

all the links are in the show notes also check out the website the culture dot one. It was good man was going on.

Anthony:

for your amusement do I abuse me? Do I like a clown?

Jeff:

That's how racist that's not a little racist.

Anthony:

Nah, nah, I think humor really just comes from how you look at things. Like I hate when somebody tries to be funny because you can tell when you're trying to be funny. I never really tried to be funny it just some stupid shit that pops in my brain. Like this shit. Like, what if superheroes had their crew sick time?

Jeff:

Like I don't feel like I don't feel like doing shit today. I don't feel like working today. Like okay

Anthony:

so like on your own? Like it's the Avengers instant justice league right so you think like it's a union like to a degree right like so it's kind of in what they do is technically a job so what if they had like two crew Nick

Jeff:

and they and they all and they all be in New York? They all be in New York to

Anthony:

like what a spider man when the day off like now you didn't accrue enough sick times. We can't you gotta you gotta go walk crawl like but I'm tired like you gotta wait to end of the month man you're gonna crew two more days and like that's fucked up. But it's kind of funny like imagine like like I can't I can't go fight crime today. Like I'm taking me I'm taking a half sick like you're gonna do crime from eight the fucking

Jeff:

Commissioner Gordon puts the bat so you know and Batman. He tries to coordinate nobody shows up Batman. He calls them up like yo, I'm just I don't feel right today. I'm gonna take the day off today. My bad. Bad go holiday robbing a bank girl. Go holla at somebody go holla at the X Men have some shame. And they all we all live in New York. Now we all live in a metropolitan area. We all live in Gotham.

Anthony:

Somebody like you've reached number Batman in right now. I'll be unavailable for next few days. If you need assistance fighting crime. Call like Nightwing Robin back girl. There'll be available Monday through Thursday. Right hood where over the weekend. Y'all have

Jeff:

a good day. It'll be his away message you try to you try to email him. This is a way message. So the email I'll be returning Tuesday November 8.

Anthony:

Mr. Freezes I fucking Shut up like I'm out of time on vacation. I'm on vacation. This is my time. This is for me. I'm not doing crime today. I gave it a number to the other guys. I'm not fighting crime.

Jeff:

I can't see the best thing of all the way from the Bahamas, bro. Like, I can't see.

Anthony:

Batman. I can't hear you. I'm windsurfing. Hold on. This. This mighty mighty is too great. I mean, mad as fuck is Batman. But you know what? Like, I know I respect it. I might have to die today. You know, you deserve time you saved a lot of people deserve some time for yourself. Even if I gotta die. It's how it is. Okay. And while serial killers

Jeff:

have three names, like John Wayne Gacy? Yeah, for some reason, I

Anthony:

was thinking like, Child's Play, right? The move with Chucky? Yeah. Like the guy's name was Charles Lee. Right? Like, why do you have to have Charles Lee

Jeff:

read? And I see the point. I never thought of that. Fuck. Yeah,

Anthony:

it's the thing about the three names. Why three names. gotta kill Martha King. James Earl. I can't remember the name. The funny thing is that his last name escapes me but I remember he has three names. Serial killers. Murderers. Oh, three names. I don't know why. I'm cool. That means

Jeff:

I can't James James Earl Ray. James Earl Ray.

Anthony:

There you go. D Okay. Gil, Dr. King. And if so I know can never be no killer. I don't have to be names.

Jeff:

You don't have a middle name? No.

Anthony:

I don't have to build anything. I am above actual like, like mass murderer or like, like serial killer shape. I don't have three names. You might you got you got you got three names before. I have a better name. Right. But do you have three names? You have four? Because Christmas would be for? You know because?

Jeff:

Well no, because we're Hispanic. What Hispanics do is they'll use their mom's maiden name and their dad and then their real last name. You know, I'm saying so right. I don't I don't

Anthony:

do that. That's why I asked about before.

Jeff:

I don't I just I just put my last name to one.

Anthony:

Right so mom last name dad's last name. Like it's like, right? That's why you might have fear kind of tendencies, but it's gonna be okay.

Jeff:

But anyway, I want to talk about racism today, man. I want to talk about systemic racism. When it pertains to a couple of subjects that I want to discuss. So we'll get to that. Will Smith though, before we get into the racism, she will smith make it an apologetic video and uh, Chris Rock. Did you see that shit? What you thought about it? It was like what was like I admitted that he was like answering some fan mail or some, you know, whatever tweets assumption questions that fans were asking.

Anthony:

Yeah, it was like four minutes. I felt it was sincere. I still think he had a lot to do.

Jeff:

I'm just saying that like he was he just looks so soft. Every you know, the more she puts out, and the more he starts crying online, like the softer he looks, Is that Is that accurate?

Anthony:

I want to say I want anyone to feel like oh, well, like at this point. Like, I mean, I mean, once we'll slap somebody everyone's pretty much calling. We're like the hardest thing in the history and which is just not true. I think it's more No,

Jeff:

because he could slap somebody half his size though. Yeah, but the whole thing was up there smack in the rock. He wasn't smacking you know, I'm saying here's the thing.

Anthony:

I was enjoying people see that like, Alright, so let's hit the rocks of the he slapped a rock right? Let's say the rock runs after him. Right? And he does like the ollie shuffle. Shit just cracks the rock and knocks rock so cool. Then we like that's the whole thing. That's the problem. We're playing a what if game, we always level it towards one side. Like, if someone saw was there, he wouldn't did that. I wouldn't say that. Because you often like someone would have came up there. And it would have been someone else. And they would have jumped up big and bad. Let's say well, could you guys remember like wills not small like wills? Like what? six two? Maybe 220? Something like that. That small guy? muscular. Right so like someone thinks they're gonna jump back and like they're gonna like Oh, Wilson's gonna do the shit to me like will still bigger and taller to you and trumpeting and like said, you took a lot of that time. Remember that ally shit, and I don't think he forgot. Like he could probably fuck you up.

Jeff:

Not only that, though. I mean, he's made you know, he's made 20 or 30 years worth of action movies. And you know, there's training that gets involved in a lot of these movies. You know, I'm saying so he's trained to box he's trained to do this. He's trained to do that he's trained to throw punches and kicks and shit so you don't know what the fuck will happen when you go up there. Yeah. And an instinct he might just give you a two piece

Anthony:

Yeah, but a feed punch and kick and a real punch of kit is like like an a movie a score data like aren't you putting your point? Yeah, if someone's somebody's just rushing you like you got to just react and like I said, it is what it's supposed to be and understand like he made the apology took some time away to try to figure out you're trying to get more like emotion about intuitive by the end like I said, you can tell by looking at his face it still hurts but I guess the only thing I still disagree with is like if you come back and I think you apologize to the fans, you apologize to the family and you go ahead like that. But at that point you don't really talk about it much more like like what do you think about

Jeff:

it? I thought it was I thought it was sincere. Now I thought it was sincere. I think they need to do like a sit down and do like a special with some shoot him and Chris Rock talk about it. Like what the fuck happened? The part that fucking bother me when he's apologizing to fucking his wife to Jada. He's like I'm sorry babe. What Uh, sorry for what if anything, she should be apologizing bro.

Anthony:

I don't even I think that's the point of self reflection like you know how like people hold grudges for like such a long time and like 15 years later like in like real life you connect with said person then got to talk and you kind of realize like fucking beef and about in the first place like certain things in life you got to kind of let them regrets go like like you're gonna apologize your wife because like what occurred like this like it went down the chute and went down that way. And Alexa they got me looking crazy. You look crazy. Like the funny thing about the whole thing is like the whole family story I can tell from him like JD was like this is what we do. Like come on. You weigh a buck 20 by Camila last night because you're gonna run up and walk you up so relax don't don't think awesome we all tough you not everybody wants to be a tough guy and everybody said we all should have did this and will should did that but we'll do the right thing will disappear stay out of public view you let the jokes go on left to go on like it's some he gonna have to deal with. But the truth of the matter is Will Smith is always going to come down to are we ever truly going to get like with the root Will Smith is because this is very good. I think it's a good approach in the first first way but the whole thing like what what Chris he should even apologize to him like like Chris I'm sorry for what I did. I know like like he's free explains the whole process like people don't need to know the process like I reached out to him and he hasn't responded back like I don't need to know that but like should just be like to Joe Polish like Well, let me Chris session did that. You know when the time comes hopefully we can sit down and talk about it. I noticing it and but whenever you're ready, whether now a month from now six months a year whenever you want to sit down and talk about it, we're going to talk about it but it needs to be just a conversation in private. And then that's it. You don't need to be televised. We don't got to sit down in front of cameras. We just need to chop it up face to face. Say what it's gonna be and call it a day. I don't want it to become like an immediate event. You don't need to be that like this is in front of everybody but there's something you could apologize to me privately and call The day but in all in all I think that it was um, it was sincere it was it was it was it was from the heart It was heartfelt I'm proud of him for showing this kind of growth and being able to do so and kind of realizing you know, I'm still working things out I still think he should work more out in private than in public by keys should keep those two personas completely separated. The weird thing about their family their personal shift keys bleeding to the public shit. Now you need to have like other people like this is your public persona. This is what people see. And behind closed doors what goes my family or friends whatever that's for them. They don't need to be involved in all the above but I'm proud of the god I'm happy at least you'll be able to do that.

Jeff:

Somebody asked him Did Jada tell you something when she rolled her eyes? And then she said and he was like absolutely not he was like it was all me I did that on my own you know went up this magma man. Like he's obviously going through some shit in person and

Anthony:

it all came together like with that the years of jokes the book everything like it's all like that one thing but again you kind of brought this forward you made this come to be like you don't have you don't have to do none of this like even with the whole cheating thing like I'm sorry man. There's no way in hell you could have brought me in every table so are we talking shit out front everybody Fuck y'all entanglement entanglement looked at Fun red table right in front of her fuck entanglement. Oh, by the ship behind doors and like, she's gonna try to justify the cheating. But like say it wasn't cheating. Like we weren't together like that's the whole thing. I don't need to know this. I don't know whatever went on with my house. Right? I don't. Instead this man is shit. Right? He played with the kids. We take a family vacation. It's like a BAM like I don't care. But the whole thing is that we all knew that we didn't need to know that because you allowed us in and now you're allowing us in but you got to be more cautious about it collected. This is shit that you did and that's something that you talked about in the sense of data talking about the sense of you. You did this you went in front of me that people slept shut out his man walked away oh cool like you Jim West and Wild Wild West sat down for some winter match your merry way. So once you did that, like said that's the answer. That's something that you have to answer not anybody else you so you got to figure out what is best for you Will Smith to kind of get a functional way to get back to the good graces of people which won't be a problem. Shit over but another bad boy CBI.

Jeff:

Moving along to some new music. Beyonce dropped the surprise album.

Anthony:

This past week. You taught my shit.

Jeff:

Yeah, I mean, it's like a 90 soul club type of vibe. Right? It's i

Anthony:

You talking to you talking?

Jeff:

You know? I'm saying isn't nice album. It's good. It's a nice album. The story I'm interested though.

Anthony:

What's the what is the whole is the whole KALISE is the Hokulea situation. Can we spoke on the

Jeff:

phone because I didn't even know. I didn't even know. I didn't even know that milkshake was sampled on the ship until police came on and started talking. Apparently the song energy wasn't apparently the song energy they sampled her right and I'm like, oh shit, you know, she's not even in the credits and they sample they credit like Pharrell Williams on it. So I guess police's real beef is with Pharrell, but she's trying to say that you know, she ain't give Beyonce no authority or no permission usership I'm like yeah, what are you talking about? You listen to the song you don't hear no nothing that that resembles anything in the bucket list. But apparently they chopped and screwed a sample of polices when Lisa songs right right. She's talking all this shit and I'm over Kelly's bro Well, everything she's done tonight was trying to attend to you know trying to rape them blind to like now she obviously ain't doing shit with her life so she's trying to get money wherever she can by someone whoever she can you know I'm saying and the thing is she doesn't even own her masters bro. So she has literally no saying well who samples what? Whoever produced her songs was a Pharrell Williams with whoever those are the people that need to get permission you know I'm saying cuz she doesn't even own an hashish she's not credited as a writer or anything so fuck her first and then second of all you don't go after the queen bee like you know you're talking about one of the most famous one of the most powerful one of the most riches you know singers to hive right up to high but are you going to beat Are you going to beat the hive Are you going to beat Beyonce and Jay on any type of you know I'm saying

Anthony:

no legal issues like this

Jeff:

No you're not

Anthony:

be honest you should think Jay Z though that was perfect. Cuz I was she Lily did a verse of a takeover to you and get a coin that he was getting fucked and I know who I paid God search like by version 10 Five smarten up. Now it's like it's like Khaleesi is under the assumption that I have to give her a shout

Jeff:

Timeout, timeout, Timeout. Timeout. Timeout, though, before you go on, that that bar was a good bar from Jay and take over, but it was inaccurate, because NAS did get paid for J sampler him. Correct search set MC search set it right. But uh, hey, go ahead.

Anthony:

Because Chris was like you by hand and Pete and he did have the Pete nice directly he pays the publishing company in a public company pays Nice. Correct, right. Either way, now he's got paid, right. I remember on their presidents to, it's not Jay Z feature, not just Jay Z. Because I can use my voice because I went to the publishing company, I paid them. Now they get paid nice, but everybody's job for that. But that's up to them. The thing we're Khaleesi is, like she said, was something off the song. She wasn't featured on the song. I don't need to talk to you directly. Because you don't own anything. You don't own the masters. You don't own the publishing rights, none of that exact structure publishing. Exactly. So once the publishing company says yes, I can do whatever I want. So you didn't get matched. I'm actually still in like she owes, like, owes me whatever. I feel disgusted. But like, No, you don't, man. This is where the business is. If you were supposed to be an album, you would have been on the album. Nobody wants to have him. Because unfortunately, her to, like hurt your feelings. But in regards to music, right now, you're currently irrelevant. If you said like, no, Jake, no, Beyonce had a new song featuring Cleese. Everybody's like, why? They wouldn't say wow, they say why it doesn't fit. Doesn't fit to where the music business goes. So if she got your hustled out of this, and she gets mad and throwing this up like that, and guess what? She did that before the album came out, and once the album came out, no one cared about whatever she said, it serves you no purpose. You're gonna get a check from us. Anyway, it was kind of a whole point. You're trying to say like, No, you deserve the proper credit so on and so forth like that. That's some shit. But your publishing company and guys should do with me? Because I'm I know her theft and all this other shit. Like, that just seems so extra. Like, did you really think that made any sense? Like it like say it got nothing to do with Beyonce. The problem itself is like it's Pharrell. You with us on Star Trek? You record them. He owns a ship. You pick it up for Oh, not with her. But she point out Beyonce like No, no, you're, you're the wrong person to get mad at. I hate when people do that. Because I if I would have went to you and tried to buy the sheet you said no. Like I find I go sample somebody else. I found it. She didn't want the sample. And then I ended up going to the proper people to do so. I still say to me.

Jeff:

There's rumors out in the street. There's rumors out here that Kelly's wants to get back with nice to.

Anthony:

He said to her go football. Not not. That's true. Like not good. Like we're not we're not rehashing it. I think we're in a whole thing of like, no, no, we could have made a phone call. Everybody was talking about it takes a phone call like no, it don't take a phone call. Because if I pick up that phone and you say no and I got something planned, didn't throw it off. My plan in the answer is meticulous. He planned his album out to a tee. She knew what songs she wanted. She knew what sample she wanted. She didn't know how to get set sample period. Now, like I say, it lets you pick up the phone. She was like police. I wanted to sample your music for this all inclusive, like Sure. I want $5 million for Beyonce hands up, click. I talked to the publishing company. He's like, what is what is the right for me to use example in the song 100,000 Give me one moment, let me get my account on the other end. Because that particular level of understanding is how the business works. I'm not I'm not giving you a shit ton of money, just use this song even though I really, really, really, really want this song. I'm not gonna pay you an extraneous amount to do so because I don't care about your degree and I don't need you on this album. Like I don't need you at all. That's the thing. That's the thing. Like the beauty of being like a megastar. Like they need you you don't need that, like, makes it like Khaleesi is like Relevancy is literally because she said something about the album. Before that was the last time we ever thought about it.

Jeff:

Before that we heard about her when she's you know, something has to do with NAS

Anthony:

exactly years ago. So but fuck perfectly spectra album The album. The album is solid. I think it's good. It's like it flows one song and to the other. I think this is like the it's gonna be like the song that's gonna be all hookah spots. Like the album, like that dance up Poppy. Maybe since shit. If you go to Google spot, you're gonna hear a lot of Beyonce because that's like its foot. That crowd and that vibe. And I think is good. I'm not a Beyonce. I'm not a part of the beehive, which I've pretty much made clear that said Fuck the hive. But I am understanding of the particular unique talent that she has, like she's an entertainer. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine. It's like why doesn't Beyonce do like a Vegas residency like Adele and usher Like could she at that stage of career, believe it or not, I mean, they're all kind of around the same age. And I said it wouldn't make sense for her. It makes sense for Usher and Adele because they can stay in there for 25 minutes and just sing. she can, she got to move around and have dancers event like, I don't think it's built for like, like some small Sheila, I think you might have to have like, because a Vegas residency, she might be doing a shift in like, the football stadium, like, two nights a week, because because like she puts on the show. And like, you're gonna have to pay a fuck ton of money. But she puts on an amazing show. Dancers, choreographers, band, everything. And like, if you want to have like a six month like show in Vegas, like that you ask them a lot of people take a lot of time out of life is why she's probably never going to do it. But her ability to make music like this that just is relevant and shit like that. I can't complain about it. I think it's a good app. I think if you're a Beyonce fan, you're really going to love it or you're really going to hate it. Because I think this there is no in between. A couple of our albums were like, you know, it's universally praised. Like, it might not be for me, but I can tell it's a good album. It kind of tells you how you feel about you know, that type of music. I can tell you one thing though, this, like, you know, for the 90s kind of like dance music that goes along with it. Waste period and metrics by far

Jeff:

facts, but you'll just take a quick break when we come back. We're gonna talk about the systemic racism. Yeah. Thanks for listening to the culture podcast.

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Jeff:

the racist cops in North Carolina and I'm sure you've heard of this story amused me there was there was a north there was a North Carolina town where their entire police department quit after the town hired a black city manager and by the way, what the hell is a city manager is that like a mayor but anyway

Anthony:

I think so. I think we're gonna

Jeff:

town is called Kenley. Kenley North Carolina. And the CNN report goes the mass exodus of an entire police department after the hiring of a black city manager in North Carolina has opened a conversation about public safety and race relations in a small town of just over 1500 residents. The entire police department in Kennedy North Carolina resigned citing a hostile work environment less than two months after Justine Jones a black woman began her role as the town's newly selected city manager. Joy right a local business owner said the community is concerned about what the collective police retreat means for the future of the town. He said he was mostly frustrated because the town hadn't been keeping residents in the loop with any developments is just weird. And for us to not have any information as to what to expect, right said are we going to have police or we're going to have town manager. The Kennedy town council released a statement this week saying the prudent course of action is to find out what happened and not me Make any harsh decisions or any rash decisions?

Anthony:

Okay, but the whole thing that when I kept reading police chief Josh Gibson, somebody said if I'm officers one part time, Austin to town clerk, it's eight people like I forgot

Jeff:

what I said. Somebody said, somebody said I feel like they don't want a black woman overtop of them, basically managing them or telling them what to do what somebody else said, Somebody else said, I've never seen that being a problem. When asked if she thought race played a role in the situation. I think there are too many jumping to conclusions. We really don't know what is going on. I know I have never met this town manager. I have never had any problems with the police. So I really don't know what dynamic could have led to these types of decisions.

Anthony:

Sounds a bit aggressive. In the sounds a

Jeff:

bit I don't know man. Sounds suspect to me, bro. A town like Henley, North Carolina sounds a little bit racist, doesn't it?

Anthony:

I mean, it's small. It's 1500 people again, it's one of the towns like pretty much everybody, not everybody. But the funny thing

Jeff:

is like, I need to know what the population is like what I need to know. Out of the 1500 What, what is the Yeah, I need to I need the breakdown of the population out of those 1500 How many are black? How many are white? How many are Latino? You know, I'm saying? Because if it's like 90% predominantly white, you know, city, then we might be on to some shit. I'm pretty sure that entire police force was black or white rather.

Anthony:

probably I'd say that's an assumption. I'm not sure. Let's see earlier this month, the police chief and the only two officers in Springfield Colorado, probably something 1300 resigned from the force. They said a personal reasons and they want to take positions elsewhere. Like this sounds something different. Monday, fire police officers in the chief resigned from Atlanta Police Department in South Carolina tried a controversial random mirror election of a ton of 1300 people. It is a small town. Kenley just 35 miles south, south east of Raleigh. And that's the whole thing they're trying to figure out if it's racist or not. It just might be. It just seems kind of weird because I'm missing something here. Like what is it that she's doing? That she figured the shit to be hostile? Maybe she's, you know, it's almost like when you're dealing with somebody, and they have somebody new and you feel like they like you're doing too much or anything else that degree. Maybe just ask you to do your job. Like, like maybe that I'm like, these assumptions have no idea of these eight people that were there. Let's say that they were like, bullshitting was supposed to sit at a desk or driving around town. not really doing anything, but you might not really have much to do in the town. Maybe she wanted him to actually get off their ass and go do a few things. And they figured out to be a little bit aggressive. I don't know. But it's super weird that all of a sudden this black woman got into office and everyone's like, you know, you said they can't work under the stress is at all what stress I've asked you to do your job like I'm pretty sure what the town that third do not know much crime and murder going on. Pretty sure department local crimes. So this is this seems like it seems out of touch. I don't even know why I would do that. I think officers are just in there. Like it's a it's a tendency now nationally, like a lot of officers like quitting their job, but they feel like the system itself isn't really backing them backing you up to do your job. It's up killing people. Like I heard a story this morning but it was also a woman that think of Georgia like she was suffering from a mental health episode or she had mental health issues. And they put in a blast like a breach or what a handcuffed behind the back. And, and somehow she she ended up like headfirst on the side of the road. Like they turned the corner and the back door with a photo but she she flew out of the car. And she died. They got Ben Crump over it and everything else like that. But you were in a situation like that, like the cops live, see, like the thing was closed. And then like, say for hands behind the back and there's no way to open the back door. How did she know? You know, open the door and jump out which is what they said. It's stuff like that this makes us not trust the police. So you run into a situation like this will often these guys are upset about what the hell's going on doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, because now you guys want to quit maths before and I'm pretty sure the town's been on the map for a little while. So once this comes into play, all of a sudden you guys like we're not working for her. Of course once you it's either racist or sexist? I'm not sure because it's kind of like killing doing what have a lot of like, female lead lead officials there either. So I can't put my finger on both. It might be a combination of the two.

Jeff:

Alright, so what happens now? Do we replace the city manager or do we just replace all eight? Cops?

Anthony:

Fucking cops, y'all quit. I'm not giving you a job that you like. The thing is this. I always figured that like if there's some kind of issue that they're saying that we can we're adults, We're not children. We can talk this out and figured out what it is. that you're asking for and what you figure that we should be able to provide and see we can find middle ground if you feel that's not a situation that's untenable you need to get going about your marriage where they made that choice and felt like they couldn't we're going to discuss what it is. I'm trying to figure out what kind of stress eight people can be under like said two clerks four officers in the chief like what are you guys getting at that I'm not missing here what's a bluff or losing something in translation? So I'm not I'm not hiring them back. Like I gotta listen if I want a job we got got eight new positions and if I won't be chief, you get that spot open to like it doesn't mean I don't I don't get it. I don't like I don't I don't think everybody can resign and often ask for your job back like say, Everybody resigned right? Has it been like a bunch of lawlessness in North Carolina since then? I've never heard anything about that Tomlinson ever heard like, there's a bunch of burners Shut up a Robin sorta for right. And they know the cops go, it's good to time stealers in it. They're not doing that. So it seems like it's nothing but it seems like it's probably something because it seems very suspect that this black woman comes in, started running shit and all sudden guys want to quit. It seems such a racist. Maybe not a lot. Maybe it might be fixed. But it's like

Jeff:

the next topic. I don't know if this is I guess it could sound racist. But the USA trying to trade with Russia to bring Brittney Griner back. First of all, I didn't know you could trade people this just sounds racist to me. It's like you're trading slaves or some shit. And prisoners are technically slaves if you read the shit, you know, I mean, prisoners are slaves in this in our country in our country, right. depend on how you feel now. Correct. So now Biden has like Russian serial killers in our jails that he wants to trade. Or that Russia wants to trade. Brittney Griner for like you give us our criminal we'll give you your fucking criminal even though our criminal was a fucking mass murderer. And your person is somebody who just had a fucking weed vape in her bag and shit. So the crimes don't even add up. You know I'm saying one is heinous one is not at all. So, I mean, I need to know you could trade people bro. Like, I'm gonna trade you this person for that person. Like if Brittney Griner was a white player, how different would this should be playing out? Let's keep it a buck.

Anthony:

Now White play, it might have been a Russian Connect. Over here somewhere, hold on, like Kyiv my cousin living kid, that's my nigga. You got to do prisoner changes all the time? Because like I said, it's kind of a sign of goodwill and so on and so forth. But I mean, it was also part of the process. That's why she had to plead guilty because he didn't plead guilty to have to go through the whole trial thing. As soon as she pleads guilty, he's considered a prisoner. They can do like a prisoner exchange thing. They've done it before. The guidance that they're trading for the thinking about trade affords the guy that they call the merchant of death. I know have you seen this movie you ever seen the loader war with Nick Ah, no, no Okay, so if you like it move on to guns like international guard and run this kind of based upon him. That's the guy that might be trading them for but we're going to see how that's gonna go is the whole shit is

Jeff:

that that's not even a fair trade. That's not an even trade broke. The commissioner needs to stop that you got to veto that trade immediately.

Anthony:

A fair trade is not a fair trade.

Jeff:

You got to veto that shit. We're giving you a mass murderer and you're given us a fucking WNBA player bag WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT about

Anthony:

dinos they put it into Katie with regard to trade. It has to be like trade trade trade this tea cannot be accepted to lopsided

Jeff:

decline. This shirt was rejected. That mass murderer you gotta give us every American that you guys have in your jail, bro. For this fucking guy. Huh? They got you? Because I don't know Is that racist?

Anthony:

I don't think I think I think the thing is that it comes with a deeper into like a circumstantial interest between governments like I mean, we're trying to find a balance between a basketball player and international gunrunner I feel like that's good enough trade because one provides us you know, for Russia literally if you're selling guns, it provides a financial advantage and neither one provides an entertainment advantage. I mean, she should have been home and freedom long time ago but I think we can get caught up as Americans sometimes like the rules here the rules everywhere else got such an ugly Americans when we're abroad you can't go other places act like we can do shit saying she would do here like not it don't rule that way. Like like being in VR. Like, as she was great. We went to a corner so I'm going to center financially with a shot kind of like shit this like home right here. But the whole thing is like, like that's how they roll here. Hear, it's not the same as seeing somebody that was cinema shotgun outside the bodega in New York or in New Jersey or anywhere in the upper northeast or wherever. It's not gonna happen. The rules don't apply the same way that to do here. As soon as we realized that the better off we'll be, and I understand like, it's like, so so it's a vape cartridge. It's no biggie. Here, it's not to them. Different story. They're tricked on it. Like I say, I remember before, it was some asshole it was years ago, some kid was causing all kinds of hell in the kingdom. They don't fuck around in the police's man, I'm telling you, it's the way it is.

Jeff:

I don't know, man, if we were playing if we if I feel like it's our fault a little bit. Just because if we were playing, if we're paying these WNBA players with the money that you know, I'm not gonna say the money they deserve, but more than what they're making. She wouldn't have to go to Russia, you know, I'm saying and fucking try to have a side hustle. Or playing the league in her offseason just to get extra money to make ends meet. Because somebody's WNBA many players are making like 50 grand. They're making regular people money out here. But I don't know, man. I just thought the whole show was kind of shady. Like, we just gonna trade this person for that person. I'm just waiting for Biden to come out in a press conference. I'm just waiting for a little old 80 year old Biden. Dementia asked to come out and say like, Hey, I'm sorry. You know, we we tried our best we you know, we did everything we could. Brittany. Sorry, Brittany. We tried like you're gonna have to stay out there. You know, we couldn't come to an agreement with the Russians. I'm waiting for that. Wait for that press conference. Because that's when people are gonna start tripping. There's gonna be all kinds of backlash and shit you know, I tried my best moving along to the student loans I tried my best with that shit too. Couldn't get it done man you're gonna have to pay them shits

Anthony:

nobody knows because they said um what was it for one he got what caught a Corona again he demand Joe and it was a thing where he told the lenders to not send out notices for payments to restart yet because it's supposed to restart in August. So let us know I was gonna say write the letter should be going out now.

Jeff:

Wifey got the letter already?

Anthony:

Fucking dudes. So wisely. I got the letter.

Jeff:

My bad I was gonna say why he got the letter. And before she even read it, I was like yo, caught them all focused on tell them to defer that shit again because we are not paying that shit, which is not we're not paying it. But then when she read it, it said you know your next payment is due in August, but then it says due amount zero. So I'm like I so I guess we don't really owe her anything yet. Right? I guess they still given us a break. You know? I mean

Anthony:

I'm gonna be trying to figure out when to start back up. But the whole thing is that you got to give us something Joe shriveling out here with the Coronavirus man, you got to hit twice in like less than a week man and extend it a little bit more. If you go through and you're pressing secure America, but everyone else goes through.

Jeff:

Not only that, those loan companies they still they still accrue the interest rates. Like Alright, they'll pardon you for a few months or a few years or whatever. Like, you know, the positive they'll pause your payments. The interest still keeps collecting. Oh yeah. So when you come back you owe twice as much as you did before and shit. Fuck that.

Anthony:

I mean, it depends on Have you made any payments at all? No. Me neither.

Jeff:

We haven't made a payment in years to this shit. She called them and told them she wasn't working there was like I will defer for a year then you know you call again and hardship I don't got a I will defer it again. Obviously the pandemic happened so it's been like four years as we made a payment to this shit.

Anthony:

I'm guessing one little bit someone come up off that bill.

Jeff:

We're not paying that shit, bro. I'm telling you. We're not paying this shit, bro. I've heard of people that have gotten pardoned and I'm like how they're like, oh, no, you know after so long. I guess they just stopped charging you. So that's that's the route I'm going I'm gonna see how long we could keep deferring until they just give up and just stop charging us. Well, don't defer to Uncle Biden promise me uncle Biden promised me at least 50 grand for student loan forgiveness. One of the reasons a lot of us voted for yo das come through because I'm not because we're not paying this shit. We're just not paying him bro. We got other shit to worry about out here.

Anthony:

No, haven't don't mean don't mean it's gonna be theft. So security some shit

Jeff:

Don't be trying to scare me bro

Anthony:

You bet we finally retire like oh you admitted student loan shit yeah yeah the company

Jeff:

that shit plus interest retroactive 200,020

Anthony:

years to impress compound run my money

Jeff:

this is your entire retirement

Anthony:

Good luck sir.

Jeff:

And Joe enjoy your 70s

Anthony:

Four 1k Like now you've been willing to that job in cash not yet come on. Come on with it

Jeff:

you ain't retire until you 85

Anthony:

Start living longer drinking more water like live in northern Kenya with money my father

Jeff:

we're gonna need your child's your child in college we're gonna need him you have to treat him in your

Anthony:

favor. Yeah, don't ever do not get a shit like putting your child name with some bullshit

Jeff:

I thought about this ship has asked like on a phone bill and the cable bill because you don't know how to give you the cable bill for cheap for like the first year and then it goes up like twice as high. So you just keep canceling and putting it onto somebody else's name so you can keep getting that that special rate every year.

Anthony:

How come I can't get off him? Oh, yes, I forgot to tell you that.

Jeff:

You can have like five kids every year is a new the bills on the new kid and

Anthony:

I wonder what I could do is give him a security number. Or name.

Jeff:

Now I don't even think you've got to give a social you just got to give a name and address and maybe a proof that the person lives there.

Anthony:

Like a birth certificate.

Jeff:

Matter of fact, I think you do have to give your social my back. That's one of the security questions like What's the last four of your social but he called

Anthony:

to social. But you get my social security number who the bill holder is eight years old. It wouldn't be a problem.

Jeff:

I don't think they care, bro. As long as somebody's paying for this shit.

Anthony:

Oh my god.

Jeff:

I don't really think they care bro. As long as it's a person. And so long somebody's paying for the shit. Because they don't do background checks as far as like what your credit is. You know what your job is? They don't give a fuck just pay us

Anthony:

know they will lose more customers that way bigger. Should anybody Yeah. But if you're gonna need a background check to get cable man normally have cable I would mother naked. But I would

Jeff:

go my last story on my last question pertaining to racism. You tell me if this is racist? Am I racist? For using impoverished blacks? As an example, for lack of diversity in Major League Baseball, and I'll tell you what I mean. We all know that Major League Baseball only employs a total a whopping 7% of African Americans. You know, you guys just don't play the sport anymore. African Americans gravitate towards football towards basketball, right? So I'm on Twitter in a group chat. And we're discussing this and I'm telling these fucking kids why that is. And I'm telling them the one of the reasons I'm not saying this is the sole reason but one of the reasons why you see more African Americans in the NFL and in the NBA than you do in Major League Baseball, is because it's harder for us impoverished not not even Latino because there's a lot of Latinos in baseball, but it's harder for impoverished blacks. From you know, blacks that come from, you know, lower levels, or whatever the ghetto the hood, whatever it is, it's harder for them to get into the sport of baseball, than it is to get into basketball where all you need to do is buy a ball and go to the court, a couple of your friends and you can have a game football, you buy a fucking football, you go to the park and you can play you could play in a parking lot. You could play at a football field, wherever, right? But baseball, right? Baseball, however, it's hard enough to find like 10 people, but even if you do manage to get four or five people then you gotta get gloves, they each need a glove. You go to the fucking store modells or wherever the fuck Sports Authority, these gloves are like 40 $50 both on sale, then you need a bat. You know, I'm saying you need a ball. We're already looking at like $100 right there just to play a fucking game. And if you want to get into the ship professionally, if you want to play Little League or whatever, then you got to get the cleats you got to get the uniforms. You got to get all of this other bullshit. impoverished individuals just can't afford the shit. And then somebody in the chat was like, Oh, I gotta be impoverished blacks. You know, you'd be a racist. And I'm like, Well, my bad. I'm just trying to make. I'm just making a point. I'm making the example. You know, I'm saying that a lot of these kids were there's Latinos and blacks. This is their way out of poverty. I know for Dominicans, you know, there's a lot of Dominicans in Major League Baseball. In the Dominican Republic. Baseball is big. This is their way out of poverty. They play baseball. And they're inventive with the shit they will make a bat out of wood. They'll they'll chop down a branch and make a bag they'll use milk cartons. glove they'll real, you know, inventive with the shin, they'll figure out how to play the shit. In the States, bro. You know, am I wrong though? Like it's just much harder and much more expensive to play baseball than it is basketball or football. I think the same can be said about hockey is expensive and is more difficult. When you got to buy all these equipment, you know, I'm saying you just need a ball in football, you just need a ball in basketball and you can figure it out. I just bought a basketball at fucking Walmart for like $20 The average glove is going to cost you more than that. And you need more than one.

Anthony:

It's not racist, it's more, it's more an understanding of how social logical systems work. In the Dominican Republic, the reason why baseball it works so well, because I'm not saying this at national pastime, I don't want to put anything upon anybody. But you also play in a place where you're tend to, you tend to have more open space. You don't have a lot of open space here to actually go somewhere and have a park and like when you get a chance in the next week or so when you're out and about dropping. Count how many baseball fields you see. And then just drive. Just like Don't divert your average route or wherever you're going. Drive and see how many baseball foods you see and drive around. See how many like, like basketball hoops you see. And I mean course I mean like in driveways or in treats. You have the ability to do everyone's likes. It's easier, simpler. It's not that baseball, difficult sport, like we live in a country where there's just not a whole lot of space for it. That's why you see a lot of guys that are like American born that a good baseball players are like from the south or the West. But there's open and full space and opportunity and places for them actually play baseball, if you're in an urban environment and a lot of parks and a lot of shit like that. But like I said, you can crank up a hoop, you can go ahead and get it done that way. It kind of you can do football, like you'll have knee pads and shit. But the first time I played football, we'd never played a path we played in on a fucking concrete and metal street going one way and down the other or on a front grass of someplace somewhere. It's kind of like spacing opportunities. It's not racist if it's in that degree. And the other part is that you're inspired by who inspires you and who looks like you? So, right. If you're if you're Dominican, and you see a bunch of Dominican baseball players on TV playing baseball might fall towards that. I could there was a lot there were a lot more black players because a lot of the like, my dad bring this up like the reason why black men and black baseball marketed and more black people there's more Willie Mays no more Hank Aaron. Right. The guys that were in Pittsburgh, no more Joe Morgan's no more Barry Bonds no more like Frank Robinson. Robinson, like a lot of people that were my age that got into baseball was wasn't because he liked baseball like Ken Griffey. They thought Ken Griffey was great. You look like them. He has swag. He was cool. So you're not wrong and instance, not insensitive, racist, just realizing that this is the way it kind of society puts it that way. Cuz like I said, it's like this, anybody could go off like, it's literally a small white ball and the stick? Well, a club. I mean, don't be cute about it. But you don't have acres upon acres of land to hit a ball around what I mean? Like he could be a good golfer if he actually had the space and time for but there's no space and time for a golf range a hell of a lot bigger than what a baseball field will be. But you don't see baseball fields, you don't see people going out there. Like you said, it is. If you're coming from an impoverished community, you're like your finances are deemed for you to survive, not for entertainment, not to buy a bat and cleat and gloves and ball and hat. And if you're all like, struggling financially, to have 1012 1314 kids in the same area want to do the same thing. And that none of us can afford it. It's not going to work out that way. But but a basketball, you can get your football we can get you it's one thing that can go a bunch of a bunch of people and that's all you got to do. There's no other additional extras anything that goes along with it. So you're saying is it racist? It's not just how society deems so it's like, it's like all of a sudden you wonder like if if someone that was a person of color comes from an impoverished community then all of a sudden they get money and all sudden like I want to learn how to golf by like you were playing basketball your whole life but no disrespect I got space for it. I can do it. I can afford it. These things I can afford a membership. Like there's not that many public course I did their private course but we have to pay a membership to actually walk on grass to actually hit a ball. It's stupid, where it literally literally cut the hole out of the bottom of Crete nearly to a tree and have a hoop which is what I did growing up these things as far as I became a good shooter, you try to shoot around bone to like a rectangular milk crate. Therefore I'm good, real good real quick but no, you're not being It's just been matter of fact these sports work better for those type of people but I can see their argument would be in it but not it just just realization of what your circumstances are and picking those particular sports where it costs less but you might be able to achieve more it's actually a good way to make you know the best case out of circumstance so I'm cool with it

Jeff:

now are the higher ups in baseball racism that could be another you know races that could be another argument because baseball I think out of all the major sports does the worst job you know, I'm saying marketing their players of being progressive you know, I mean probably of catering to certain demographics

Anthony:

Yeah, cuz I think their minor league system is stupid. I think there'll be don't pay those guys enough. I think you have guys that are lifelong, like like their minds for 15 plus years. Then after that their career is done they never made it to the majors they never quote unquote got that big contract until like getting to the major thing but it's harder to do because like I said, all that money is guaranteed annual signup bonus none of that shit the job is the job that pays what it pays that's why you're about to pay you know $145 million a year cost of doing business and every dollar guarantee I don't like it I think that they never put forth any real good effort to kind of get like African Americans more involved in the sport to find a particular talents that were no but fit that but they got basketball academies all over the place. They got baseball Academy but they're not as well known. Not that come off the top of my head. But the whole thing that you run into those people that just so weird, because I just don't like what they're doing. Like I think blacks should be more involved in baseball I did in the past because it was such a different time and it was so awesome to see them people there. Now you don't have that anymore. It sucks. Like it sucks when watch a game you'll see nobody looks like you. Like no offense to my Hispanic brethren out there and all white people is just literally like you're not seeing a lot of black people in baseball that like star stars like I can't name what maybe Tim Anderson but he's not an either star but not a star star Josh Bell Star how to start a handful of them bro. Yeah, not mega stars. Arijit Black.

Jeff:

He's biracial but I think he was adopted. I don't even think he really knows his black side because he never talks about it either. But he's supposed to be biracial.

Anthony:

You can't give love your biracial Star Boy Yeah, y'all got let him kid we need to my black man.

Jeff:

Let's try to end this let's let's end this systemic racism and this was episode 104. Go check out the website the culture dot one. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. When we find a quote man, and we found a quote, oh, for hold by Nin life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage

Anthony:

is cute. Bye