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April 26, 2021

Same Song

Same Song

Topics discussed by the guys in this episode include:
Shock G's untimely passing and legacy
DMX's memorial service
The Red and Meth Verzus
The George Floyd trial
Bret Favre's comments
The Knicks resurgence
Who is winning the NBA MVP award
Mass shootings and gun laws 

Featured song: Same Song-Digital Underground

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Unknown:

from urban life to hip hop and sports and everything in between, this is a podcast inspired by and for the culture Episode 40 same song by the nobody to another episode of the koecher Episode 40 yoanne was good man.

Anthony:

I mean talking right now isn't you wanna say shit about my tea? Is my Fugu sipping tea I'm

Jeff:

telling him Yo, put that to your way I want to hear you slurping on no tea. He hated he didn't matter quietly

Anthony:

No, don't drink tea is hot you burn your mouth. No,

Jeff:

you drink it softly but Yo man raise you lost another. We lost another member of the hip hop community man Chuck g rest in peace. Um, when I had said last week that depth comes in threes. I was including Prince Phillip. But I guess it was shot Gee, who was the third person you know I'm saying because now we're the last three in a timespan of what like a week we're gonna have we're gonna last three people in hip hop. Because it was DMX. Then black Rob died the same week. Right and now shark g A week later. So that's three.

Anthony:

So know where things have not a lot of people even know who Shakti is. A lot

Jeff:

of people don't know him as Humpty Dumpty or whatever the Humpty you know, I mean, but he put he put to pop on. So that that was his significance in hip hop, you know, I'm saying.

Anthony:

Yeah, I had the six pack.

Jeff:

two packs, very first verses on that same same song, saw G and then you're in two packs at the end. You're to park, go to park rocket, whatever. They come to come around when I plan around with the underground. And that's the firt that was our introduction to Tupac. Then after that, obviously, Tupac blew up bigger than than digital underground. And he put them on a couple of songs. I don't remember. Oh, are they on? I know. He got I know. Tupac got them on like a song or two in his albums.

Anthony:

I mean, I get around. Oh, yeah, I get around. But but but yeah, yeah, I mean, that's one cuz

Unknown:

I'm hanging out with her.

Jeff:

But, okay. Song and the Humpty dance are the two main songs. Those are the two big you know, singles that that that they made that digital underground mate. So if anybody knows them from you know, it would be from that.

Anthony:

I know, I think I think if you're from the east coast, you probably remember from that, I think from the west coast, you probably ruined Yeah, yeah.

Jeff:

Yeah, but I'm sure there's a bunch of hits that were you know, our singles that came out over there that didn't play over here. You know, just like our New York rappers probably had a lot of hits that they didn't hear out there. You know, I'm saying we only heard like, the really big songs.

Anthony:

I won't be offended if somebody from Canada like I've never heard a bigger like, right, I get it. I get it.

Jeff:

Right. Because he wasn't like commercially successful like that.

Anthony:

Right. Like from my from East Coast. Like, I don't know who Mac Dre is like, I mean, it's a cultural thing. Right? But yes, I'll

Jeff:

rest in peace to shock. Like Damn, man, we're losing all our heroes be I wouldn't necessarily say heroes but I get it for the people that grew up watching you know, I'm saying pop cultural icons, you know, our pop culture people that we grew up watching our athletes are you know, celebrities or music, personalities.

Anthony:

I hate to tell you this shit, but it's just how it goes.

Jeff:

Um, speaking of was watching like when your parents,

Anthony:

your parents lose guys like, like, if we were last exit person or whatever. Or like somebody that was only like one of their soap operas. Yeah.

Jeff:

Right, but it feels like those people are older. Like Prince Philip, we get you know, we joke that we ain't even give Prince pillow. You know, we mentioned in acid, but the dude was 90 something 99 like he lived a long life you know, I'm saying

Anthony:

man fuck that colonize but.

Jeff:

But these rappers are dying like they're 50 years old. Like that's not even old. You know? I

Anthony:

mean, the ones we hold in high esteem. Like my parents are 70 they were the ones but the ones we hold in high esteem like that. We are They died younger than that. But that's

Jeff:

what I'm saying pocket big deal to make it a 30 pack big and Big Pun. The old died in their 20s big l You know, I'm saying they all died in a 20s you know, but I was like my parents are in their 70s the singers that in the celebrity that they grew up watching are dying now. And it was geysers, you know? 70s 80s 90s You know what I'm saying? Are guys, we grew up watching them only 20 years ago, you know, I'm saying I'm in high school, listening to, you know, to DMX and black Rob, I'm in high school. I remember being in high school in the 90s. That's not that's only 20 years away. You don't I mean, that's not a lifetime ago, that's 20 years. You know, I mean, I'm, you know, 15 1617 listening to them. Now I'm in my 30s these guys are in their 50s and they drop in dead. It still seems like they're young, you know?

Anthony:

I think it's because like I said, when you're younger, and hip hop was such a part of our lifestyle growing up. And when you're at that age, especially when you're in high school, you don't really realize how young those guys actually are. Because you did my school, my dad and mid 20s 30s whatever, because like, they just seem so much more mature. They drive and they got calls chicks, women, whatever. Not realizing like black Rob was less than 20 years old and you like he could he could have been more of a cousin DMX was 50. I'm 37. So he's 13 years older than me. And I don't it's not a lot. It's like, that's like,

Jeff:

he was a little kid when I was born, you know, I'm saying so it's not like, right, I don't see these guys as an old man, obviously, you know, they got kids and DMX has 15 of them. And we'll get into that. But you know, I mean to them, you know? Yeah, that's pops. You know, I'm saying he's 50 years old, that's probably old to them. To us. We grew up watching these guys, and they're only 10 you know, 12 years older than us. They don't i don't see them as old men, you know, I mean,

Anthony:

they're not. There really ain't. They're super, super, super young. I mean, in the grand scheme of life from the 50s not old 60s not old. I mean to the point where your body just starts failing you is when you kind of just feel that age thing Come on, but but those guys he just realized like it can just be taken away in a snap. Like before Black Rock popped up in the hospital scene. It's a weird thing to think popped up in the hospital getting press DMX was the last time we heard about Black Rock

Jeff:

now I mean, he hasn't been putting on new music or none. I mentioned him every once in a while when we talk about the favorite albums as my you know the best albums I always mentioned him because life story to me is up there I like that I thought it was a classic album. But that's about it. He's not putting anything out you know they're not playing his music on the radio they're not showing him on TV he's not doing a reality show. Because even DMX like he would be on reality shows or you know they would always every once in a while play a DMX song or Noriega would mention him on his podcast because you know, or DMX just got arrested or you know DMX overdose like he's always on the news whether it was a good thing or a bad thing he was always on the news for something you know I'm saying fucking radio if you had another kid you know so it's like they kept them alive you know obviously with the negative press but I was watching his videos he was watching the memorial yesterday at the Barclays you know watching it they said I was gonna be on YouTube so I put it on it was like a four I put it on at four then the message came up said oh Stay tuned it's coming at five I go back at five and this is still showing like a tape like a replay of the tape of just you know they taking the casket on a big monster truck down the highway and onto like I cows and motorcyclists following it.

Anthony:

I can quickly make a full fledged

Jeff:

exam I was starting out and that was fine like I was 630 or something like that.

Anthony:

Even on death that man was on CP time

Jeff:

so then they show they got the stage Kanye did the stage apparently looked expensive as hell it looked like two pyramids one on top one on bottom and then with screens all around it and they show on you know different pictures of x and different video footage of him. So that was dope and then they had they had the whole lot I didn't see chic though. Because dragon spoke Swiss spoke he spoke jaida spoke and Styles P spoke I didn't see see glues. I don't know if he was there or not. You said he might have been.

Anthony:

I think it might have been a baggage of the case.

Jeff:

But it was all on the stage. They all said some DMX kids came on the stage 15 kids, man. So I wonder if that's the first time they've ever all been together? What do you think?

Anthony:

Now I think at this point of his life, I think he wanted, you know, his siblings to know each other. So and you know, that's kind of a weird time for us all to be first time meeting is like dad's funeral. So I don't I think we met before. I can't necessarily tell you when. But they had me before. I think it's one of his life. He wanted to do better and be better. So then my new Prime interacted in one way or another. I mean, he didn't have a childhood, like, you know, growing up having siblings also though, I think he wanted that relationship for a kid to have each other. So

Jeff:

that probably happened and it was and it was his daughter who stole the show. She came out and she did a little song. I don't know if she wrote it or what but she wasn't reading often. And she wasn't she didn't have no headphones. She said I got I made a song for my daddy. And she spit you know she had like a little 16 She had like a hook and she had like she had a hook and everything and she had like two verses or a verse and a half. And it was dope and I was listening to it on the radio because I 97 was playing it too. And I remember like Ebro and Rose and Bernie was like crying on the air. I was like that was dope.

Anthony:

You know the fucked up part. Like I don't even listen to regular radio like that. But the reason I say fuck these radio stations is because now when you play the old school at noon, I hear the shit I used to grew up by also you trying to call me old motherfucker? that's just that's like before it's broke. Like Old School New like slick record some other show right? Now it's like the mixing Method Man like okay, so moving on. Great. Fuck off.

Jeff:

Speaking of mathematics, I mean, they had the vs and I don't we don't think we've spoken about I don't know how you felt about it. It was a dope concert. It was like a mini concert. But it was not what I was expecting. I was expecting a versus battle like all the other ones where they take turns playing their hit songs and then we from the outside looking in get to make our own conclusions and get to pick like okay, I got MEF winning this round right winner, but they didn't do that. They just there was just playing songs. They just they just did a concert basically, they played all the hit songs all the hits on this day they went back before they had the whole Death Squad on the stage. met the man brought out basically the whole Wu Tang except for you God Ray and ghosts dang show but everybody else was there is a jezza Kappa Donna. You know I mean they did that bomb atomic leevers obviously, inspect the deck. I think all of them was there except for Ray ghost and you God. Then Redman brought out his death squad. He had k solo. He had a Keith Keith Murray. I was gonna say key swag. He's confused key swear we keep keep rolling with who else came out? The Death Squad. epmd epmd came out. I was I was bugging. I was like, Oh, it was a dope concert. And he had an audience. There was what were they? They were at the ballroom?

Anthony:

Yeah, I think Yeah, I think so. There wasn't one of them in New York. I'm not sure. But it was it was a spot in New York. Yeah.

Jeff:

But it wasn't a verses battle. So we really, we didn't really get to pick like a winner because it wasn't really going back and forth plan, you know, track for track that was just playing whatever. So Oh, no, I mean, I liked it for what it was.

Anthony:

I just I just want to hear your complaint. No, I'm

Jeff:

not complaining. Because it was a dope concert. Like I pretty like their energy is crazy. Everybody knows my random map they're known for, for being opening acts for other rappers and just tearing down the house. And then everybody else has to follow that. You know, they jump on us in the crowd, they jump, they stay, they sing and they songs live, they animated the dancing. Some of the dances they was doing look like they was choreographed. You know, they did some dances together. I was like, hey, they've been doing a VA and you know, they both they that's how long you know they've been doing it because they both know each other's songs. So when red was doing one of his songs MEF would be his height man. And he was finishing sentences and vice versa red would do it for meth. So it's like they both know each other songs like by heart. So again, if you go into it, knowing that what it was it was a mini concert, it was a mini two hour concert by reading math for 2420 then they brought out a bunch of special guests and it was dope if you go into it thinking it was going to be a regular verses battle where one was going to be on one side of the room the other one's gonna be on the other side and it was just gonna take turns playing hits it was not that so I saw a lot of people complaining online like I wasn't filling in or you know, this wasn't a versus battle. who wasn't feeling it? You know? I'm saying now I saw people were like on Twitter or whatever complaining like oh, this is not what I was expecting. You know, whatever. Whatever.

Anthony:

You should unfollow them. You don't know what to say. So

Jeff:

it was a dope concert. But it was not a vs bad ever. So what are your thoughts on it?

Anthony:

I thought it was great. I think you full of shit because I'm watching the whole thing you flicking back and forth between the ones watching Yankee game.

Jeff:

Watching the Yankees and the neck there was both on in the Knicks, by the way the next next or whatever surgeons nine straight wins, but go ahead.

Anthony:

Go for them. I'm watching the whole thing through and through. Like I can't miss the Yankee game and the next game like it got more games to play like, enjoy the concert. And then you was like, I didn't know Redman had this many hits. I told you from the beginning. Even if it was a vs. I'm like, that's not going to smoke red is good chance red is going to beat math because Ray got a whole bunch of hits. You just didn't think about could you know I was oh that's right. Yeah, that's red man to her. That one audit. Oh, I'll be that yeah, that's red man to the moon in this world. Like I was nice. It was that simple. And I keep them around. I was a good job. Yeah, so as good as epmd Oh my god, it was DJ something. DJ scratch. It's no scratches on the turntable, but he brought up somebody else and he played Oh, my

Jeff:

god, it wasn't that dramatic.

Anthony:

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's a classic crack but it wasn't it wasn't mathematics and somebody

Jeff:

I'm pretty sure mathematics came out to are we going to do this Are you sure game again cuz I'm thinking they did bring out mathematics when that's brought out all the time, people

Anthony:

I don't think that was him. But we could take a quick pull up right now read. It was read and brought him out. I know at the end they brought out the Rottweiler.

Jeff:

Oh yeah. to him. They brought him out. Yeah. Because he produced the Brock law to be

Anthony:

right. They literally brought him out.

Jeff:

I was like, he just brought out everybody that they've ever worked. I was expecting Mary J to pop out of some shit.

Anthony:

I mean, the thing is that you don't pay your Frank. Yeah, yeah, good. Yeah, and they don't come through and come take a look. And then that's weird. It's like, yo, yo, we're doing the verses. You want to come through and do your part of my song right? And they're like, sure how much you're going to pay me. Then we a friend.

Jeff:

They had jezza just came out. Reza rather Reza came on. He said he worked on her new album right with with DJ scratch or whatever, is always let the people know we're working on a new album, whatever, whatever. And he was begging we read a map to do another movie. He was like yo, we need to do another movie. He was like I'll produce it out director whatever. Like let's make it happen it seems really weird at this eight of they're doing how high they need to do a real high Part Two because of the bush that they made with a with Lou. Whoever it was. Little Yachty and other dude from walling out younger DC young fly part today she was trash I saw like two minutes

Anthony:

I can't watch this. You making a how hi from dude from wiling out. You notice he's gone. DJ cool. dJ dJ, cool. Could you do Ed Let me clear my throat. Oh, that's

Jeff:

right here. He was looking old as hell out there to real old school.

Anthony:

He's Oh, Yo, I can't yo I hope that we're friends long enough cuz I want to see you when you look old. Every time someone look old again with ugly look. He looks a little round about yo, it's gonna be old one day to knock that shit off. I'm just saying I realized how old he was like a clip Let me clear my throat and all that so he's old people get old don't do that. You we started off talking about people dying. Do you want to live long enough to be Oh, right. That's the whole point. I want to look old. I want to look 70 Why? Because I'm 70 I live he looks a little

Jeff:

further. He looks seven he's still talking about my throat. I

Anthony:

have any buddies. Oh.

Jeff:

DJ cool. Yeah, because not because the maximum 50 and this do look way older than DMX.

Anthony:

Well, he was a way before that. So

Jeff:

I'm saying one was very clear my throat at

Anthony:

that much. Really Frank 96

Jeff:

it really seems older now but I they played it like an every party. And the radios downplays the OSI

Anthony:

stack, you know? Of course he old he's supposed to be old. I'm not a layman. I'm not a shaman. It sound like it. Now who does? Oh, my damn, you look old. How

Jeff:

do you suppose Are you looking at his age? Let me give a shout out to the Patriots. Because we didn't mention last week and I know that we catch your fillings. So shout out to all our patrons. We appreciate you. Thank you for your support. I'm 6363 I told you he was in his 60s.

Anthony:

So yeah, yeah. Being 70 Jesus Christ. He will not come back. crack. No. Everyone, you know, somebody

Unknown:

who's be 70 looking like they 45 you know,

Anthony:

I mean, but, but sometimes that's just, that's a myth. It is. Because it just kind of depends on like, what you've done with your body or self until up until that point, because I know dude, it's like a smooth 36 years old. I'm like a smooth

Jeff:

56 years old and I'll be talking about me.

Anthony:

You ain't got no grant talking about you. You veiny shit White's gonna be talking about you're gonna be talking about me.

Jeff:

Cuz you got mentioned 36 even though I'm 37 I do got some great I got some

Anthony:

great right here on my chin. It's a random number that popped into my head. And like I said in the great, no, this is a thing. It's going to get worse. Once they start rolling in, you get that little gray patch going on. I'm telling you if I see you looking like you got shoe polish to him cussing us out and just build. Just do Don't Don't try to get a negative yield. But yeah, we got to mention

Jeff:

something else that happened this week. Dewey was a police officer shelfing Shelvin shelfing whatever his name is, got convicted of all three charges for the murder of Floyd.

Unknown:

Would you call George Floyd? No the guy Shelvin show Finn. Shelvin whatever now What's his name?

Anthony:

What's his name?

Jeff:

The police officer.

Anthony:

Me number eight number 8388834 dash a six five. That's his name. Remember that number?

Jeff:

You know your number, but like they deliberated longer than I think they you know, whatever, but they deliberated for like 11 hours, the jury and then they came back and say, you know, he's guilty. All three, I was surprised because I didn't think he was going to be guilty on all three, you know what I'm saying? Just because you know, semantics and whatever, like I figured, okay, he'll be guilty on maybe one or two other charges, you know, accidental manslaughter, the murder by the third degree, whatever the charges were, I felt like he would be charged maybe one or two and not all three, but whatever I gave him all three they throw in a book. And then I recently read, um, that they got a webcam, what does that Cam bodycam buy footage from years ago of another altercation that he was involved in, where he beat up another black guy. But he didn't obviously that person survived. He didn't kill him. But they said that that, you know, they haven't released it to the public yet. But they say that when you see that video, that video is even worse than what he did to Floyd. But the whole thing is, like, if he just happened, somebody was like, hitting him over the head or whatever. And they saying that, you know, if they bring that out that they might even, you know, use that to charge him or even more to throw even more charges, Adam for that incident,

Anthony:

but but the whole and that's, that's the problem with the criminal justice system. If that happened years before George Floyd, was he on a on a on a, you know, in the department and the service? Yeah.

Jeff:

Yeah, sure. Because you know, what it is the fraternity and they all watch each other's back. They're gonna charge the other three cars that were there, Stan, you know, they were standing by, they do on a separate trial for them.

Anthony:

And now we got, I don't know if they're gonna be able to drop the hammer on them for being co conspirators or aiding and abetting. I mean, they're going to try and it's not really aiding and abetting because they if he's there, no senior officer, they're following his command. And if you tell him don't do anything, step back, whatever. Morally you should probably step in, but then you're kind of dealing with you know, police issues and a blue water fountains and so on so forth. He shouldn't challenge his fellow officer yada yada yada. So I think that conviction right vehicle, because it came back so fast, I knew all three of them. Yeah, we're going to be guilty. The thing that kind of bothered me is that you know, like saying when you're black, like even if you feel pretty comfortable with everything that's pointing this way it has to turn out the way that it's supposed to, but historically, this shit doesn't really work out that way. So even when we were like about to announce we had like a little twist in the pit of my stomach like what if this just doesn't go right? And that's like it's a problem that we have within the system itself we never believe that it's going to go right for us so therefore we're always questioning it so even to the very end until I heard that that first guilty I was still a little bit Nah, I

Jeff:

didn't think for a second I suppose I didn't think for a second that there was gonna say innocent I just didn't think they were gonna say guilty on all three charges you know, I'm saying I know they had like four or five African Americans and then they had like a couple that were mixed race or biracial jurors like if it would have been an all white jury I would have been like I got a little scary You know, I'm saying but they know what it is. But now we got to wait like two months to hear what the judges you know, senses is gonna be what's the most they say could get like 40 years or something like that? And most probably 40 years so we still got a wave to that because the judge mess around and say I want to give you like two years and some community server there's gonna be outraged, you know, I mean, there's gonna be an uproar. Like, we gotta wait to see you know, I know they're gonna get I think I feel like he'll get at least 20 years.

Anthony:

I don't want to wish death upon anybody but they can't get that man two years. If you get two years he won't he need to relocate to like a whole nother country. He can't but they already said they're gonna put them like in a special job. He's gonna be like, you know, he's not gonna be amongst people that he arrested you imagine they just throw him in a jail with a bunch of dudes from the same hood. He was a man people when they play. Oh, you remember you remember? You busted? Me bust me for cooking? 98? Boy, I've been here for 20 years because of you. Good. Yeah, no problem, man. Don't worry, I won't do it. Again, to the point where they'll put them you know, he cannot work and he can't he cannot please because of the oh hell of rewriting that happens. So he'll be in necessary protective custody was more like an isolation unit. So basically, it's guys that they're not like necessarily violent threats, but they are people that there might be some harm in regards to the prison community and what they might do. Like a, there might be people there that like sex offenders, transgender, AIDS patients. People with aids are not AIDS patients, but people like that. Just to make sure like it doesn't cause any havoc or like major gang members. People need to keep separate from others because you know that their president will call some shit happen. Yeah, so

Jeff:

I want to move on to you mentioned I mentioned the Knicks earlier. Let's go with their resurgence be nine straight. We haven't done that in ages. I'm not gonna spend too much time cuz I don't want to jinx them. I haven't really been watching all these games. Like what I've been doing now is just watching like the fourth quarter when I see oh shit the game. They have a chance to win another one. I'll throw it on in the fourth quarter. That's July. Yeah, so that's what I've been doing now. So, but I'm excited. They're the fourth see right now they're holding on to a playoff spot. And then I was I was, I was listening to interview with Julius Randle. He was on the Washington Roski podcast. And he was talking about and I didn't know about this, how he got bonuses, and his contract for different accomplishments. If he makes the all star team, which he did this year, he gets whatever it is half a male or male, whatever bonus, if they make the playoffs, which, you know, it looks like they might make it, he gets another bonus. So I'm like, okay, Is this why he's playing this good this year? Like because of these incentives? Like is he gonna go back to being a bum next year or when you know, we're after we give him a max contract, that's my fear, we don't get a max contract. And it has asked gonna go back to being regular.

Anthony:

Most contracts have those incentives built in. Like, they might have like incentive, like, Steph Curry will get $2 million. If he wins the MVP award unanimously, you'll get 500,000. If he finishes in the top 300,000, he finishes in the top five, stuff like that, like third escalators and things that are there to enhance the contract. It doesn't count until it actually happens. But what like your your star superstar players have those accelerators built in to make them a little extra money. I mean, it's an incentive. You want to be incentivized to be an all star or to make the playoffs or to be on one of the all NBA teams. That mean, you did really, really good and you probably be rewarded for it. So it's not a problem that they're in there. No, it's got a logical, yeah, um,

Jeff:

he's actually in the MVP discussion. We know he's not gonna win it. But he's one of only a handful of players that leaves their team in every category. He leaves us in points. He's averaging like 24 points a game, he leads us in rebounds. He's having like, 1011 rebounds, and he and he leaves us in assists. I think he's averaging like six seven assists a game. So these are close to triple double numbers. You know, I mean, there's only like, like I said, it's only a handful of guys maybe Nicola Joker, just his name from the nuggets. Yoga joke, a joke ish, maybe maybe Lillard maybe a Steph Curry, maybe a James Harden. Those type of player LeBron. These are the type of caliber players that lead their teams usually in every category of Russell Westbrook. Am I missing somebody? Maybe maybe the Greek freak. I think there's only like five players brawny entirely the league, the league, their teams and every category pointing you in the middle of it right?

Anthony:

Yeah, Dame is more on this mission.

Jeff:

So this is the conversation so this is the company that Julius Randle has put himself in like he's being mentioned among these great players again, we know he's not gonna win the MVP you know I'm saying but he definitely should win and probably will win Most Improved Player correct. Just night and day bro has to everything has gone up is rebounding as a percentage of points per game has assists especially. He was showing like 26% last year from three he shouldn't like 40% this year.

Anthony:

Do you mess with your buddy gamma for most improved behind him? Or do you put that behind RJ?

Jeff:

RJ is in the discussion for most improved also but I give it to Julius Randle only because, you know, he went from being a stat parlor on a very bad team to an MVP candidate on a good team this year, you know, I'm saying like they just turned it around so dramatically. So you got to give him most improved. And I'm sure he'll get some vote for MVP. Oh, hey, good, Sam. But ultimately winning. Ultimately, I think MVP is mbeadh or joke ej? And if you disagree we can place a bet right here because it's been a while since we've made our less sports bet.

Anthony:

I don't know why you want to throw away money but what's the bet I'm giving an MVP to joke ish I'm not taking a bet he's getting I'm almost sure you agree with that then he's gonna win now. Yeah, Unless Unless something horribly goes wrong. He's probably he's almost

Jeff:

averaging a triple double and he's a big man he's a center what was the last time I don't remember what the last time a center ever is a triple double then I suppose he's leading the team in every category points rebounds assists like yeah, you're a seven footer your center. Yeah, you're gonna get your points and you should you should average double digit rebounds. But we're talking about assists as well. Like he's getting like eight nine assists a game?

Anthony:

He's the best passing big man I've ever seen. By far they're really not there's no, yes, by far. He's the best big big man passing big man I've ever seen. Look at his numbers. He's

Jeff:

averaging 26 points. 26.2 points, 10.9 rebounds, and 8.7 assists, which is fourth. He's fourth in assists in the league league. That's that's what point guards like Steph Curry, you know, Damian Lillard? Chris Paul. I'm saying what's the LeBron James Harden Kyrie Irving. He's fourth in the league as a center as a sixth level. center what the nuggets they're not like a attractive franchise, but you know, they're a playoff team in though in the West.

Anthony:

I mean, their playoff team did not decide to attract a franchise and I don't know why people would shit on that. If you really tried to win Melo

Jeff:

was there, but I'm saying that like a marquee team, you know, I'm saying it's not like he's on a super team or anything like that. He's on a nice team on the west that's gonna make the playoffs. And he's the standout player on the team.

Anthony:

I think if you start winning, you become a marquee team. Dallas wasn't a marquee team till he started winning Golden State. I mean, they had a history, but it wasn't really a marquee team really became you know, Steph team. So is it possible in Denver? Yeah, it's possible, but I mean, he definitely get MVP this year. I don't see why anyone would difficult so

Jeff:

you should get that Julius Randle should get most improved. Do you disagree on that one? Um,

Anthony:

yeah, because it's probably gonna go to RJ Barrett. Hmm,

Jeff:

I'm not really I'm not. I'm not willing to bet on that. We did already make a bet on the coach of the year I'm still sticking to tibideaux. Taking a lottery team who only won like 20 some games to a playoff team. Yeah. Sitting fourth right now. tibideaux win, and he needs to win Coach of the Year. We already got a bad thing. We better $20 on that already. I got to go back and check to see which episode we made that bet on

Anthony:

we generally bet $20 I'm gonna say that's the that's the right amount.

Jeff:

We got that bet. And then we got the Kevin Durant bet, where we bet at 20 A may or may not lose that one. But it's not even fair. Because he's not planned. We bet that he was going to average over 25, right. 25 or more? Yes, I think right now he's saying like 2627 points per game. But the problem is he's not even playing a full season, bro. So you should we should know that Trey should be null and void. What do you mean, the bet Kevin Durant that I mean, yeah, the bet. Does he's not me being a full season. But you made the bet. Pretty sure. I said that he needs to play a full season.

Anthony:

No. And don't check the tape and rewind and delete. You shouldn't either. No, you just say you need to average 25 point for the season. And if he had to play a full season, she had to average that amount for the season.

Jeff:

If he's doing he's coming back today, play against the suns. Let me check his stance. I think he said last time I checked, he was at like 27 points a game. The only way I could be saying that if they take him out early in somebody's game. He's averaging 27.3 points. Right now, right now. So I'm hoping that you know, so they're being real careful with him because he keeps getting injured, that they'll just, you know, play him 15 minutes. He only get you know, 1015 points, and then you'll take them out. If they do that for a couple games, then his average will dip under 25. So that's what I'm counting on.

Anthony:

Yeah, that's my goal.

Jeff:

You'll have that one. But I'm gonna get the typical one. There's no way he doesn't win Coach of the Year, bro. This is the most improved team bro. In the entire league. I want to basically the same roster that they had last year.

Anthony:

It's the NBA. There's never no way you never know. Yeah.

Jeff:

So I think he's wondering that one. And I think joke ish is when an MVP, you don't want to bet on that. So we got two beds going on right now. Oh, no, we got three beds. Because Wait, we got Kevin Durant. Right. We got the coach of the year. Right. And we got the Lakers, I said that if the Lakers are fully healthy, they're gonna win the championship and you said that Brooklyn is winning the championship if everybody healthy but we both agree that both teams have to be healthy. Right? You know if they go into the playoffs with you know, without Duran or without LeBron or without whoever, then we count on it right?

Anthony:

If you want to put the stipulations that's not because I said if they're healthy,

Jeff:

obviously the Lakers NBA and nobody have LeBron isn't playing or if Anthony Davis isn't playing. That's a given. Same thing with the nets. If the Rams are hard and or Kyrie aren't playing, I don't think you even have them be in the sixes or the Bucs.

Anthony:

If all three of them aren't playing, they should be able to notice what I'm saying. What about it relates to Oh, I'm so good with two of them going to the finals but not beating the Lakers. Yeah, even beating like, only two of them. You went too soon. Oh, you watch him. Ah, maybe. Maybe not. That's not my therapist, Andrew Drummond,

Jeff:

LeBron Anthony Davis, Dennis Schroder and Kyle koosman. That's the Lakers five. You're telling me that that team fully healthy is not going to beat the nets. Only with only with like, Kyrie and harden and know the rent with Joe Harris and DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin coming off the bench.

Anthony:

And Blake Griffin in brown and Landry. shamet. Yeah, yeah, I'm still looking. I'm

Jeff:

sorry. That team is not beating the Lakers. If now they have the big three,

Anthony:

then yeah, you don't get it don't matter. Your money's up. Doesn't your money's there.

Jeff:

The bet to me, right. Like I said, If LeBron and Anthony Davis are both healthy, they're winning the championship. I

Anthony:

got $20 on that. So just want to give me $60 you can give it to me now. Just wait to shake out. Okay, we're gonna move on

Jeff:

or stay in and sports and we were talking about Shelvin what's the guy's name bro? Did you tell me what the how to pronounce the damn officer's name. Shelvin scharffen

Anthony:

853 dash, two, four B.

Jeff:

Brett five came out and said did you hear about this? He said no podcast. He was like it's hard to believe that Chauvin meant to kill Floyd. That's what he said.

Anthony:

He said some white boy nice and bright guy Shut the fuck up.

Jeff:

Like what do you mean he didn't mean to do Bro he had his knee on the neck for 10 minutes nine minutes and some and even after that even if the floor is dead he still and everybody screaming at him like yo he's unresponsive let he's not even moving. He doesn't even know he's breathing get off he states he stayed down on for an extra three minutes after they determined after the autopsy determined he was gone.

Anthony:

Still no extra three minutes that's why I can't trust white boys do the right thing man. brett farr have been problematic ever since he was whipping his dick out to report it in his in all of February. I think so. Yeah, that's the difference between

Jeff:

the NFL and let's say like Major League Baseball. And you you and you've you've been critical of like Major League Baseball with all their rules and they're not unwritten rules and other you know, morality clauses and should they don't be letting guys in brett farr would have never got in and baseball you imagine what all that's what they're doing. Where was the dude from the Boston pitcher from the Red Sox and he played for the Phillies. We won the championship with him. Yeah, that's what they do and recursive and they leave in him off because of shit. He said he has said wow shit on Twitter before controversial shit. Some shit that sounds racist. So they keep him out. He got the numbers to be a Hall of Famer. But in baseball, it is not just what numbers you have is also like how you conducted yourself off on and off the field and all this other shit. So a guy like Brett Farve would have never made the Hall of Fame for all the controversial shit he he's done in in all the time he's gotten in trouble. And that's what I was talking about before. I don't care though you rape somebody you harass somebody you Oh, cool. I don't matter. you apologize for the cool you in the Hall of Fame. But that's

Anthony:

why no one gives a fuck about baseball. It's exactly why.

Jeff:

All right, but you're also saying that you don't give a shit about what guys have done or said and off the field. You don't want to hold people accountable

Anthony:

if it's if it's sexist, or racist, or homophobic. Yeah, I do. Okay, and

Jeff:

all types of shit that might fall in all of those categories. Right? And it's like chilling that can fall into all those categories.

Anthony:

right but the whole thing is that you know you don't really you don't watch the game in the sense of morality if you did you'd never watch sports or get it ever all like all these like you said before you'd never want me to heroes all these guys are terrible. Everything I'm one of them were terrible human beings is having to be great athletes. Same thing with like, your actors and actresses. They do terrible shit say terrible shit do terrible shit all the time. You still go see the movies, you still watch their shows. So I'm not trying to be I had to be the moral police. Like if you do your job great and you're great at what you do there and is a place where they honor your greatness of what you did as whatever your profession is. Alright, I get it. I get it but I don't want to hear nobody complaining about what someone is or is not like alright man likes it. You can't make that argument about other people. Now we got Ty Cobb and Baseball Hall of Fame and he's a known racist. So to kind of pick and choose like if that's so bad to want to throw tie about you're not gonna do that right then put the guy's name but they didn't feel

Jeff:

I mean if they go back and do all of that now about half of the guys I'm sure there's even guys that did steroids in the Hall of Fame right now. They just weren't mentioned that, you know, repeat these back then. But yeah, getting back then the criteria was different. It wasn't looking at all that stuff that they do now.

Anthony:

More clothes more clothes, man. Does that mean? They tend to play fast and loose with the rules when it fits them? I guess? And I'll give a fuck with it didn't distinguish it as a stunt. Most girls just stare we should save baseball. Yeah, no one cared. And TTD too big as he was coming and knocking knocking balls four feet away like oh, now I'm excited. They're both chasing the record. After that, guys juicing up all at once home winning from Baltimore.

Unknown:

Brady and three years they had like 50 to one year.

Anthony:

I don't know where he was never that kind of hit never hit more than

Unknown:

50 like not and I

Jeff:

was a kind of Seiko was on a flat earlier in the week and he said that he estimates that at least 85% of the lead was doing was was juicing. You know I'm saying he says he knows every every team had players that was juicing. He was naming a rod Barry Bonds but buaya or his teammates

Anthony:

used to be I hate listening to the ops

Jeff:

Nah, but I thought that was an interesting lad. I'm

Anthony:

sorry. You're right. He's Black Ops. Like whenever you say like I listen to fly like I just tuned you out like that because like Vlad be having people need to self incriminate and everything to do so like blab like So did you have one gun and you have to Matt had to but you know how one of them. Was it a 45? Or was it a 30 year old me right? Yeah. You never seen the way the interview look. It looks like an interrogation because they're not side by side like an interview is there's a camera on him and flag off of it. Like like the detective talking to you. But you and

Jeff:

yeah, but he says that the reason he does that is because he doesn't want to be on screen. He doesn't want to be famous like that. He doesn't want to be bothered when he goes you know when people see him in the streets. He's okay with the money but not the fame. Basically, he doesn't want to have the fame. He doesn't want people to be you know, to brag Recognize a mission like that. Now, we all know what he just Google. And we all know, he looks like,

Anthony:

he don't want people to recognize him, because he'll want to get shot for setting up his man and got in my hand the TVC is researching. That's why you don't want to be seen, I want him to cheat. That's the whole thing you want to be seen. Okay, here's the thing, if you don't want to be seen and wants to make an audio version of it, right, right, right.

Jeff:

Now, cuz he's making, he's making that YouTube money is harder, you know, he knows you're gonna get a lot of views because he got celebrities coming on the show. So he's gonna get 1000s, you know, maybe hundreds of 1000s of likes, or whatever subscriptions and followers on YouTube. And he can monetize. He gets that he gets that YouTube money. It makes sense. If you're gonna have celebrities on your show. Yeah, you want to have it video so they can see you know, so people can see the celebrities that they want to see or whatever.

Anthony:

We have my head snitching, no more, I had a little buddy in common. That I'm sorry, Jim Neff, author, co host Angel, you always want to be in the mix.

Jeff:

Um, but you're going back to a, we spoke about Nike before, remember how he was dropping, you know that you heard about them dropping the Coby off of the brand or whatever, or now they dropped them or they would then re negotiate the deal or something like that,

Anthony:

though, his wife didn't read up the contract was

Jeff:

that about I heard they want to pay her she wanted like Georgia money or something.

Anthony:

And Nike was like, I think part of it, I think, from what I've read, so don't take this as firm, proof, whatever, just something I've written a few articles is that before ko was passing what he was working on was like his own line, like, like, like a Mambo line or whatever. To do his own thing separate from making any way to have some we have total control over it. control over it. So that might be the next part of it. But I mean, this is the way that it goes contracts, the contracts it it doesn't matter if you're dead live or indifferent. I mean, the business is the business. If they wanted to keep their relationship they would they would have done so but within reason still. There wasn't going to make a bunch of like new COVID merchandise and things like that, because all that stuff have been in remembrance. You're not really gonna make more sneakers because the thing is that with the sneakers, you have the advertisers there to wear them.

Jeff:

Yeah, but I feel like what we come up with, like if they wanted to keep them they could have made so much money with you know, with Colby like, oh, every year on the anniversary of his death, drop some new shit, and they would have been making all kinds of money. So they would have got their money back trust me selling $200 $250 Kobe sneakers every year to commemorate his passing. You know, I'm saying?

Anthony:

I don't know. Right, but right, but don't they still own it?

Jeff:

I mean, I don't know. They probably can't use the name of Dane negotiate with his wife.

Anthony:

I mean, but they own the sneaker. They probably can't call it kobudo bro. They can't pull out all the new cobis if they're not paying his wife, so it's let's see if they call it like the Coby Mamba sixes they can deceive the Mamba 60s leave his name out

Unknown:

probably and that's probably what yeah, we own the shit like we gonna reap we reproduce the sneakers anyway.

Jeff:

Ownership I can see them doing some shit like that just a mom was just never met mentioned in Kobe's name

Anthony:

right. So I mean you know X amount of the books and like the whole thing is that we see a sort of secret you know to search in the earth like you know, you know what version of God you know which one of the concrete ones is the bread and so on so forth. This is not gonna change anything it's not going to redesign it or make new COVID sneakers because the whole thing about the sneakers that the athlete that therefore supposed to be wearing them, but he's not because you know, it's not here. So I mean, I guess it's tricky what they're attempting to do what they're trying to do with it. I don't know. But they might go back to the negotiating table hopefully that they do but I can't really speak in that much because I don't really know what the like the details and the math was behind it like what are the figures like what is the COVID is getting a percentage of or did he I don't think he owned it cuz like he doesn't give ownership or any fucking thing to any fucking body so I don't know it's a good question. I need to research it more I need to look into it.

Jeff:

Yeah, I want to give a shout out to all the guests we had last week beat Mr. Bd Erickson thought it was an interesting episode. People give him good positive feedback I want to holla at you know Sadek. USA, calm, learn more about you know, the dirty electricity and so forth. I would encourage you to do that. I think I'm gonna get one of those bed shields. I think about to do electricity thing. Yeah. To see to see how that should work. See if I'm gonna get more energy and I mean, see if I'm gonna feel better in the morning. Less sluggish.

Anthony:

I don't know. I mean, possibility. I know we're not out of here. Which we got. Wait, we really not gonna talk about that policeman shooting that young girl. Oh, um. Oh, what was it the one where she had the knife? Yeah. Then we covered it last week. No naked. No. Like we covered that last week. Not

Jeff:

that happened afterward. No. Shit was the 16 year old girl.

Anthony:

Dog. The problem is is entirely to me. My people. Dinah always told me stories of blending together.

Jeff:

I'm sorry to say But it's like it's just one after the other because that actually happened. Didn't that happened like after we found out about the Floyd case about the trial when they announced the jury? Yeah,

Anthony:

yeah, yeah, it was her and then it happened like hours later, some sheer like the next day it was. It was heard in the kid that got shot in Chicago. Right. Do you want to run into Allah? He got shot kit. We

Jeff:

talked about that last week. Hmm. So the Yeah, so this girl was the one Yeah, when the cops came, they see her with a knife and she's about to stab somebody. They just shot it. But apparently what they saying is that she was the one that called the cops, right? Yes. Because there was about to dump or something. Right. And then when they came on board, they show up, they see her with a weapon. And so that's how they react.

Anthony:

Right? Because that it was that I think they were like it was like grown women who were trying to fight her mother or some shit like that. I don't know. Some to that degree. And then they came and they were fighting and then it looked like she went to lunch at the girl with the knife then the cop shot or four times. You see

Jeff:

it like that? That's when you use the taser. Not accidentally when you're trying to kill the kid. This is perverse situation where a taser should have been used you taser, girl. Try to get that wrestler knife off her hands or whatever. And try to figure out what's going on. But he already had to eat drunk.

Anthony:

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he came out. Like whenever, like where, like you've been pulled over right? You see when a cop walks through your door in the in the sideview mirror. You see the always got the hand on the gun. Right, right, man, you know on a taser. So it's on the pistol. Yep. When they walk when all this ruckus was going on with them. You know how to take the drone. He had the pistol out a pistol right out. And when he saw what was going to happen, like it's a split instance. He fired those four shots. Do I think he was wrong? Yeah. Do I think you could have went a different way? Absolutely. Is he going to be a fault?

Jeff:

No, I'll get off because they you know, they're they've already come out and said the police department has already come out and said that, you know, he he reacted according to you know how they're trained to react.

Anthony:

Right? In a look in the body cam. People gonna say things like, Well, you could have teased them. Here's the thing. If I if I'm lunging at you with a knife, you better hope that that taser getting to me before this knife gets into you know, hopefully I don't miss for the taser. It goes forward. But I mean, there's only a particular range. I'm gonna go so that same

Unknown:

video I saw a dude trying to kick a girl in the face. He kicked a cleaning head on my yo whoa, hold on point the gun at him. He's kicking girls in the head. Yo,

Anthony:

he wasn't. He didn't have a knife.

Jeff:

I was like, yo, but yeah, he'll get off on that one. But then, you know, like the family I saw people posting, I saw videos coming up on my Twitter feed. And they post the shit on her Facebook. Like, I guess she used to be on tik tok. And she would make little tick tock videos doing her hair, or doing whatever, you know, whatever these teenage girls do now, I guess they're trying to pay her and that type of like, like, Look, she was just a regular teenage girl, you know, I'm saying harmless. She was a good girl, whatever. But in just one moment, or the cop noses, she had a gun knife and she was wielding that she's about to stab somebody.

Anthony:

Right. But the thing about narratives, and I think that people are trying to now do the best to control certain narratives, but it's ineffective because it doesn't. And certainly in certain situations, in certain context is it may work. And this one a while. Like you can see she was a good girl. She's on tik tok. She's an honor student. So we're trying to see if that doesn't make her any less different from any other kid out here that is on tik tok and as an honor student, because in reality, none of them really deserve to die. But they rather try to switch that narrative and go with that narrative than what we typically hear. They try to find out like like the kid in Chicago, like they try to find if you had a criminal past if you had any kind of drug usage or whatever. So you try to make them seem like a bad guy. So it seems like he kind of deserves this. They're trying to switch it to a way to make it seem like she's a good positive person. So she didn't deserve this. When it really comes down to young children don't deserve to be shot ever. Like, if you know that she called the police. And you're unaware, and you see this ruckus going on. I don't know what you need to do. If it's me, I'm probably checking out my gun and I'm fired a shot in the air, just to get people to call him to fuck down for a second. Like I will use this not likely, but just give you the fear. Because I need something to call me shit now. Because like I said, Now I'm in a position where I need to react like this. To now what happens and I turn and I see a girl going out somebody with a knife raise overhead. I have no other choice but to do so. Could you have used a taser? Yeah. Wouldn't situation use a taser? Absolutely. But did you have a gun draw? You did? So now you're only left with that option. Because if I don't shoot, that person dies or he or she is physically maimed. And then let's say I arrest the girl for no attempted murder whatever. Her 16 year old good story it all is it goes away because now you go into prison. Because either you name somebody or you killed somebody and then I got to deal with the family of the person who got maimed or killed. Because they're gonna say, Why did I react in time to help this person? So being a cop isn't necessarily easy job. It's a lot of decision you got to make in a split second. But if he felt that's the only decision he could make, I disagree with it completely. But I get the rationale. Even though stupid rationality properly, his domestic situation should probably come up with a taser, not a gun. But I mean, I rest easy. I don't know how this trial is going to go. It's going to throw some feelings and people like I said, he's got to get tired of young children dying in the hands of police. so on so forth, so yeah, that was a rough one this week. But it goes another hot button issue eventually. And we'll, we'll speak on it.

Jeff:

Yeah, I just hope these in the mass shootings and killings at the hands of police, police brutality, whatever. Like I just hope all this just stops. So we can't just come on here and keep talking about this shit every week. Like, you know,

Anthony:

man, welcome to being black. It's our whole life. Let me ask you a question. Now. Would you prefer it ending to police brutality or an ending to mass shootings? You can only choose one Jesus Christ.

Jeff:

Well, obviously more people die from mass shootings. I mean, I would want both of them to end immediately.

Anthony:

Right. But no, because it could you like you're the king of possibles and like honorable mentions, right. So one or the other.

Jeff:

Well, if I had to choose obviously I want to I want to end mass shootings. You know, I'm saying you know, it's been like what 50 mass shootings in this country in like, the last two months, I'm crazy like that?

Anthony:

Yeah, like I remember coming home. It was like a shooting in the stopping job

Jeff:

of shit, man, stop shop target. I don't even know what it was. You know, and obviously, there's a profit as a gun problem in this country. So I don't even know what the answer to that is. I posted something on Facebook. I was like, and I'm starting to hate Facebook already. I said this last week, I posted some shit like I'm like, yo, these mass shootings have to stop I don't know if gun control is the answer now but something has to give and you know, people will start commenting. Sorry, will start commenting in one Do you know he says some shit like oh, bro is way worse than other countries. I'm like, yo, really? What countries afghanistan iraq. Give me the list of countries that stop

Anthony:

I hate when people do that. If it's worse than other countries, they take your hassle there they always have some answers. This is like you know what? COVID COVID is not bad over here then go

Jeff:

over there is technically worse than other countries like I said, like Afghanistan and Iraq and places like that. But out of all the free countries were by far the worst when it comes to mass shootings, bro. You know, I'm saying I've spoken to people from like the UK or from people from like Canada, that in their existence, they've never heard of subsea or they've never, you know, witnessed any anything like that. Or they vaguely heard of a mass shooting that happened, you know, once upon a time, but we get this shit on a weekly basis. Like this is commonplace for like you said you joked about it last week, but this is a very American. Oh, yeah, it's just as American as apple pie

Anthony:

as mass shootings. And our foolish this type of the problem of gun control, either give no one guns or give everybody guns one or the other. Because the thing is, if no one has a gun, you're not going to be worried about him. But if everybody has a gun, you're really gonna be worried about it cuz you know, everybody packing you can't come and shoot you can't like if you go into a grocery store with 80 people in the grocery store and any and everybody can have a gun. You can't come in with your gun cuz it's probably 60 of the people there with a gun. It's kind of like you know mutually assured destruction. Yeah, like I'm not gonna shoot you because I know you pack and you negotiate a new

Jeff:

everybody know everybody gotta guess that's the logic and like Florida and you know all those down south states that are pro guns You know, I'm saying or they have you know, are not anti gun but I guess that's the logic I would have to see the stats as to what states has the most gun violence or you know, mass shooting

Anthony:

you know, I'm saying thank God for Google let's put

Jeff:

it up because if it is, Florida, it is Texas or if it is somebody South you know, southern states that have no gun laws that we might have to revisit that

Anthony:

these states have the most gun owners and gun deaths let's pull it up right now once man I'm paying y'all for shit I hate we go to a site like hey man, we got this information for you but you got to you know pay. Fucking paywall analysis so you will properly review

Jeff:

the most mass shootings by state

Anthony:

both met with a mobile okay especially things with the most mass shooting could do that.

Jeff:

Look total number of mass shootings since from since 80. From 82 to two to 22. This year 2021 says California is one that says Florida second Texas are third you see Florida and Texas I knew there was gonna be up there. Everybody got guns in the States. I don't know what the gun laws are in California.

Anthony:

But But the thing is that that that is actually technically required. California, Florida and Texas also have The states with the largest number of people population, right, but

Jeff:

we're talking about mass shootings, bro. We're not talking about people of mass shooting. California with 21, Florida with 12, Texas with 11 then Washington and Washington seven Colorado, Colorado is gone. Wisconsin, Sylvania. Illinois, New York only has had for the last 30 years. You know, right Iowa for Connecticut, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey, not even on this. But what I'm saying in New

Anthony:

Jersey, New Jersey at the bottom bottom. Well, we got like, Indiana, Indiana, New Jersey has one, Nebraska, Mississippi one.

Jeff:

When you think of states that everybody has guns in or that have no gun laws, what states you think of? Because I automatically think of Florida and Texas? Yeah. And they're at the top of the list, their second and third right after California. So so so you look, I know the guy you know, I know they obviously they're making all kinds of money with guns and you know, Americans love their guns. When do we take the stats and evaluate like, Yeah, well, maybe this shit ain't working. Maybe we need to do something about guns.

Anthony:

I think it has to be how you have to be how you define a mass shooting.

Jeff:

What do you mean? a mass shooting as any gathering with two or more people? Probably I think that's I think that's what a mass shooting is.

Anthony:

Right? But if I go someplace and two people get shot, is it a mass shooting? Did you walk into some places just start shooting? Like let's say you go somewhere. Alright, like let's say there's a club and some shit jumps off and somebody starts shooting and two people get shot. Is it a mass shooting?

Jeff:

Think if it's a beef between like two people and they're just shooting at each other No, but if you walk into a room, like all the mass shows that we've been seeing lately, and recently they're walking into a church or walking into a supermarket or they're working into a store and they just shoot it that's a mass shooting.

Anthony:

Right so we got to really define what mass shooting is. Like I said if two people if there's a club and two people have beef and need to start shooting bullets everywhere, and 12 people die they don't but 12 people die for them to shoot at each other like idiots with no aim it's technically a mass shoot again even though they tried to kill each other right right. Now the thing we're like the guy like like like dylann roof who walked into a church and murders people that's obviously a mass shooting columbines a mass shooting Sandy hooks up a mass shooting so we got to get a real proper definition of it because mass shootings actually happen all the time. I've been involved with a few mass shootings not me personally, but I've been around some places but also some might start popping off and three people ended up shot they probably one of the intended targeting but is that a mass shooting is probably like how do we put these numbers up but that's why I said the whole thing with the gun laws that you're trying to be cute without it restrict this one do more background screenings get psychological exam so on and so forth. simplest solution either you take guns away from everybody you give guns to everyone that's it Yeah, everybody has a gun. If I if me you my friend, your sister, your your wife, my brother we all go out somewhere and we're we all have guns on us. I'm thinking that we're going to feel real comfortable because we know if something comes off or something pop off. We tracked but if we know that everybody trapped everybody calm down because you know if somebody did a little bit hectic, they go start shooting and nobody wouldn't have that. Guns power it's powerful like fuck, like if I got

Jeff:

power he named a sword yeah

Anthony:

that's why when we go to Ranger like I take my time shooting I'm really focused on what I'm doing because I said guns powerful like I'm literally holding something in my hand I could take your life way like this. And I'm saying how she goes people hit crazy is what it is but you know just feel like somehow calm down.

Jeff:

Well gotta do better. Don't better

Anthony:

it's America. We never gonna do better.

Jeff:

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