Red In The Face

Jeff: 0:47

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

Anthony: 0:50

hey, well, before we begin, we're never going to tell them what episode is. They can listen. And they can look at the number and they already know just the culture. Try to tell you every week, episode 10456 Y'all count.

Unknown: 1:01

Let's see the numbers the fuck

Anthony: 1:04

why? Why are you gonna have to do that? Because we do this for like 18 years like, Episode 101,843 It's yeah, done that sounds is ridiculous. Like, I'm looking at some fantasy football thing. Like they have like the title. And then like, I got to be doing this while they do a couple times a week. They know they don't episode like, like, a 1254.

Jeff: 1:28

Do they say it? Can they say do they mention it?

Anthony: 1:33

No, come on, man. Once you get this like, like when you get old. Once you get to a particular age, is that saying age like you figured out what it is? You feel like nah.

Jeff: 1:42

Well, that's our intro. Anthony chose Anthony chose anger this morning.

Anthony: 1:47

I didn't choose anger. I chose the people that people want to get into our shit. They want to hear our voices. They want to hear our opinions. If they want to know what number it is, they got it on Apple. They got it on Spotify. They don't know any other human platform where it shows the number right away. That's the

Jeff: 2:00

fact we got a lot of things to get into we got some topics we're going to discuss as usual. Shout out to our patrons aka The Culture Crew I'ma name them this week has been a few weeks since I actually named the. D block D block Hellwig, aka Alex sosei what up

Unknown: 2:20

what up? Hold on, hold on.

Anthony: 2:23

Did he get the hellwig part from you know,

Jeff: 2:24

we talked about this Ultimate Warrior.

Anthony: 2:27

I know but he used to call this even the warrior don't call himself hell with no more he's warrior like he got like warrior

Jeff: 2:36

well that's a good change. Once he hears this maybe he'll reconsider.

Anthony: 2:41

I know I just always thought it might be like hey, we're like I know it's from warrior but Lily warrior changed the name to dedicate it to Jim warrior or

Jeff: 2:49

or your wife was like Dana warrior and the kids were whatever warrior

Anthony: 2:56

kids Guinea Attica school. Are you a warrior? Let me see what your o'clock. Three o'clock on the C drive back warrior. Or punk.

Jeff: 3:06

Shout out to my man grant Kaiser. set out to Tasha, tell we've given Tosh a nickname yet, man.

Anthony: 3:14

I think I think Tasha. I think her nickname is Tasha. Short version. I mean, she could name herself whatever she wants to but I mean, Tasha up Natasha. I don't think she wants to go any deeper than that. No, like she care to you. Like and I'm like, Are you in the beginning you always said his name like that. I'm like I don't know if that brother got warrants. I don't know if he owes money I hear in the streets I don't even know somebody knows government name now they do not even you know some shit trying to track them down so I'm like you can't can't be telling people gum everybody needed aka I was already

Jeff: 3:46

mad enough to come on the show but you never did.

Anthony: 3:50

He could come on either by arguing with that like like you don't have an AKA but you're Jeff. But you're your full government name is men and I'm an even it was like you don't you shouldn't ever ever ever really say anybody so governor. Well, you can but

Jeff: 4:06

to some people. She

Anthony: 4:10

D we know Mike Tony? We know but it's still a funny part of that his nickname is his whole name but like every year which is adorable.

Jeff: 4:19

And then last but certainly not least set out to my man Simba. The Lion King. The Lying not lying. I O and lying.

Anthony: 4:31

l y ng you've been telling the lady that I'm THE LION KING like roar like yeah, that one.

Jeff: 4:38

Just don't believe nothing. I say bitches. Anyway, let's get into some of these topics, man. First of all, I want to ask you Do you know Do you know who fn Mecca is?

Anthony: 4:50

No, I do not. Well,

Jeff: 4:53

he happens to be the first virtual rapper. And he is the first AR artists signed to a major label. You can't make this shit up bro. Because little avatars like some dude with with with a nose ring green braids. And like face tattoos and shit. And Capitol Records has just signed it or him. He is a it's a first virtual rapper. He has an AI robot named fn Mecca. The deal was inked following mechas explosive independent success on Tik Tok with his singles moonwalk and speed demon and internet better my son was more about him or him than I do. That's a shame. Yeah, but beyond the Tick Tock and all that bullshit. But anyway, the rapper has garnered over a billion views and has accrued 10 million followers on Tiktok alone making it the number one virtual being on the platform. This is crazy. Ryan root and Capitol Music Group's Executive Vice President of expert of experiential marketing, what the fuck is that and business developer fold music business worldwide that Mecca meets at the intersection of music technology and gaming culture. And it's just a preview of what's to come. As of now, human voice performs the vocals, but they are working towards the ability to have a computer come up with and perform its own lyrics, and even collaborate with other computers as CO writers get the fuck Yo, can you imagine in like, 20 years, all these kids are gonna be like, who's your top five? They're gonna be naming like robots and shit. And AR motherfuckers? should really that scary, bro. Is that where is that where we headed now?

Anthony: 6:43

If we, if we leave in a ship up to our grounds. When the culture is based upon the expression of human emotions through a unique art form, you kind of destroy the essence of what we're trying to. Like, if this is true, like if all of a sudden your top ranked rapper that's going to be on a billboard, whatever all like aI driven algorithm machines is going to seem ridiculous to me. I hope it doesn't come to that point. I really don't know.

Unknown: 7:16

Will that be the truth?

Anthony: 7:17

I don't know. I don't know who the fuck this is. Like, this is something somebody created, but it's a real rapper doing it. And then it kind of going ahead and making this a thing, right?

Jeff: 7:25

Correct. It's probably some some do some underground or whoever it is. And he's like, Yeah, I don't want to be in the limelight. You know, I'm saying I don't want to. I want my music out there. But I don't want me to be out there. So we're just gonna let this fucking Metaverse metal world my phone, AI robot computer shit, be the face of this. Music,

Anthony: 7:48

make some goofy MAFAC I'm making this shit up. I'm 100% Sure, it makes no sense. Because like, we, your, your posts in an art form. And I understand that, you know, society and life has to evolve. When think about art. It's supposed to be based on human conditions and things like that. Like to have like, like, like aI creating art pieces, like little like, recreations of like, physical art. And this is pretty much what it is. But I mean, they're basically taking a bunch of things you put into an algorithm making it rhyme and making words out of it. But how is this dope? It has a billion views

Jeff: 8:25

some crazy shit, like a billion, right? But you know, we're gonna sound like the old two old men, right that are out of touch and all the 20 year olds are going to fuck them. You know, I'm saying like, this is the new shit. You know, fuck the overheads. Like yo, to people our age and older. The culture is becoming a laughingstock, bro. You know,

Anthony: 8:43

you're, you're rapping to a digital God, and like, it's not real.

Jeff: 8:48

Like I was on Twitter the other day, right? And again, it'd be mad young cats on there. And the way they typed now is like they just abbreviate everything, right? They abbreviate everything, they'll tell you a whole paragraph without typing one single complete word. So half the time I'm like, What am I saying? What does this mean? Oh, is this that? Like, they just abbreviate everything. Everything has just three letters. Like, like, Let's fucking go as the B, L, F, G, and I'm like, Yo, what the fuck is this? Oh, it means let's fucking go. Like okay, man. I can't I got it. I'm logging off man. I can't talk to you about the foot. You know, I'm saying like, my focus can't put words together they can't put coherent thoughts together. You know they worshipping these mumble rappers who don't say anything. And now we can now we got virtual rappers now.

Anthony: 9:31

I'm actually looking good with with what what the abbreviations? I am. Yeah, because like I said, I know like, here's the thing. I know I'll be gainfully employed for a long time because I know I have proper control of the English language they know. I was smoking little baskets in a spelling bee like y'all did see me see me

Jeff: 9:49

in a spelling bee bro.

Anthony: 9:52

Let me hit. Come on spelling me

Jeff: 9:54

here. You spell animonda pa B. They're just gonna abbreviate that shit. Oh, MP.

Anthony: 10:02

Psoriasis. No, don't begin with a s with psoriasis. Like, oh, man. S get him back out here. Because, like, I hate that, like I understand. abbreviate like, it's like, okay, I don't mind putting lol from time to time. But I as God is my witness. I really put lol when I'm literally like, I read something and I laugh. Some people just be in a conversation like, am I here? Chilling lol like you're not even laughing? Because you're doing like, like, I hate that. Like, I hate emojis. I hate like, like, it's too many things. It's like, I always like to look at like someone's like feet and when they pull like a random string of emojis and like try to figure out what it means. It's like deciphering a clue. It's the most subtle Last shit. I feel like, like, I feel that I'm fairly intelligent, right? I agree. For some reason, like just like It's like one of random things like how your mind works. Like not all creativity This is linking back to the whole no AI rapper thing for the for the life of me guys moment if for some reason I cannot do Sudoku, right? I don't know why even a simple ones. I can't do it right? A crossword puzzle, right? Fine? No thanks. Yeah, but I just can't do Sudoku, there are certain things in my mind where there's certain, I guess, co creative or limited barriers where my mind just doesn't work in those kinds of schemes. When you're creating something, where you're, you're creating a rapper to try to elicit emotion is just bad for the culture and bad for hip hop. Because the whole thing about I'm not even saying us, I'm not saying that generation of rap. I'm even saying the newer guys, not the ones that are among them, but the ones that came before and the ones that were in there, they had substance abuse issues, but they were in their bag, they could elicit certain emotions like, like juice world, like guys like him. How are you going to get that from a computer? And if it does, you know, it's manipulating you because it's taking all this information, to figure out something that would be impactful, or something that will kind of tug at your heartstrings and now, like, oh, man, it's such a sad song are such a great love song. They don't feel shit. This is all creation, like, why would I want to support something like this? Like, it's, it's bad for the art man,

Jeff: 12:14

it's a terror is never gonna sound like a unique rapper, because it's got, like you said, it's gonna take all the algorithms of whatever's popular at the moment, right? And then it's gonna create a sound or a voice or whatever. That sounds like whatever is selling at the time. Is it not? I mean, I would assume that's probably what they're gonna do.

Anthony: 12:36

In that saying some about integration, would they feel that it's so simplistic, they're able to duplicate it. Like, I want it like, like, I almost want to see like a beat battle between an AI machine and DJ Premier

Jeff: 12:48

for me to cook them. Right? They should, they should start glitching.

Anthony: 12:53

I want to, I want to say, does not compute does not compute. And it's not smoking. Like, you're taking all this information, you're taking AI, you're taking this algorithm, you're putting this all together to try to figure out something that'll work best for everybody to create a vibe, where premier will probably be I mean, listen to the crowd. And there were actually two records and things like that, and build off of that. So if you do that, I don't I don't think the AI stands a chance. I don't think that you can elicit certain things that other things can. But the whole point is that, you know, it shouldn't be allowable. It's almost like the Boston robotics thing like these guys have to stop, you know, both of these boxes. You ever seen when a basketball games would have like a robot out there? And it's like, just knocking out? Oh, yeah, so the other. They made though, they don't want to make like, the thing of like a walking dog and shit like that. Like they're basically creating tea too. So they're creating these things that are similar to the human experience, but not the human experience. This is just an extension of that. This is just data. It's all it is. It's advertisements, data is things that you know, they're going to go towards a particular artist and becomes a thing and it should never become a thing. But I think the point that we're missing is that we always talk about the essence of hip hop. I think the people of this generation that are fans of hip hop, don't understand like it's a sacred art form. It's not something everybody can do. You can play with it you can put words together, but that's not necessarily rapping you're not really understanding couplets and sound and syllables and everything else that degree you're just making things to sit for the sake of making things this is all that machine isn't just making things am I happy about the result? Fuck no, I think it's actually dumb. I hope it doesn't go anywhere. But like I said, I was going somewhere we're done you can ask your five year old if you got an extra five year old like Oh, I love this song like

Jeff: 14:39

going somewhere he just he just signed to a fucking major record label for it or whatever the fuck and who gets the money bro does the robot get the money and he gets his own bank account.

Anthony: 14:50

Fucking get paid and you get

Jeff: 14:51

some bitcoins and shit or you get some Doge coins.

Anthony: 14:55

Like it gets paid right but how does the robot spend the money? How does the robot even this How does the robot even have an account because robots you know have full security number.

Jeff: 15:04

I don't know man. Motherfucker a mumble rap of fucking AI Virtual Reality rat rapper football as shipbroker and then an art time like you know you got clown for sounding like anybody. Nobody was trying to sound the same. You know I'm saying you got clouded if you came off sounding like somebody else. You did your thing you said you tried to sound different. If it sold great if it didn't you moved on.

Anthony: 15:26

Yeah, it was like you fit into a pocket like it was like quite a kingdom play. Like it had a pocket Kerith one rockin we had Yeah, who would you represent me? Right? It was like different sections. Like I don't even know how to sexualize right. It's like either you're mumbling or you're not. Is it the drill or you're not? It's like it's really it's it's two lanes and it's never been that good. I

Jeff: 15:47

was like, I'm thinking back in the day it was like a pool table with you know, 246 different holes, right? Everybody had their own pocket. Now as though it was like two pockets. The people that the people that do stupid shit, and then the other underground or the shit that we all had quote unquote, like, but isn't selling. There's two pockets. That's it. Anyway, moving along. Yo, did you hear Tevin Campbell? came out as gay our entire lives this dude was making songs for women. As a child, stop,

Anthony: 16:26

bro, if you ain't over there by now, man.

Jeff: 16:29

I mean, he was kind of moist. You had tendencies. If you

Anthony: 16:33

I'm not doing this shit with you, man. If you didn't know that by now. If you need just coming out, it's not even a surprise the fuck shit. I know what I got for Christmas. I know you gave me a new.

Jeff: 16:47

So you've been telling me you knew Tevin Campbell was gay?

Anthony: 16:49

Brah it's been like, if you knew him, and seen him for a while it was kind of always there. Now, it's not a whole thing that Oh, you gotta get out. You know what? No, trust me. If you knew what's new, you always knew he probably was again. He was thinking she said a child because as you're saying, that didn't say mean a man was like

Unknown: 17:13

we're straight. Okay? This is a very fucked up premise that a gene to run off of, but work with me here. Derek is your favorite player right? Famous man. The shortstop of the New York Yankees. World renowned locally really really famous.

Anthony: 17:34

his entire career as the star of one of the greatest franchises in sports history. You never heard him heard about him dating nobody would you rode suspicion that he may

Jeff: 17:47

be nah man I'm not doing that a ride what it was a ride. Why Why would I suspect that why would that anybody's gay bro

Anthony: 17:56

because any unless they're

Unknown: 17:57

outwardly gay male because anytime

Anthony: 18:00

you're male and you're successful in something like you're not quote unquote knocking shit down. People are gonna assume that you're gay. That's what people assume Luther Vandross is gay I don't know who the Vandals gay or not Hmm So Luther Winterbottom microphone that you like now I'm fucking Brooke Shields but he made it real quick that's how we'll go like like if you want to defend your homosexuality The first thing to do is like you become hyper masculine You mean I'm being an all and what

Jeff: 18:25

about French study that he had moist tendencies?

Anthony: 18:29

Yeah, but yeah, but you saw the women printing with and they talked about prints like it was it was it was out of the public preview because that's what the prints was just vanity but it what right it wasn't it wasn't ever like prints wasn't like oh no, I wasn't no it was like Oh, I was with prints and we had a great time. We had we love like oh my god oh, you ready?

Jeff: 18:55

I was gay bro me I am calm man, there was nothing gay about that. Did he ever say she he did not. And one of the things he said he just recently came out and he said you know that obviously. You couldn't come out back then in the 90s You know what I'm saying? That's how he felt like you weren't allowed to be gay in the 90s he said now you know is more acceptable. So he feels free he can live his life etc etc. You know,

Anthony: 20:02

as a as a black artist. That would have fucked up his record sales and shit. Yes, because because the time he came out like said Tevin Campbell, I looked at the Tevin Campbell is 45. So he's a few years older than us so at the time when he was out, we were younger so that crowd those are the people who are member Tevin Campbell I got a bunch of young guys that like because it was the thing, like I said, even in Can we talk? Right? I don't think he ever said she never makes it clear. Usher makes it real clear.

Jeff: 20:38

Like he'd be telling the directors like hold on, man, I gotta change this word. I gotta say she right here or her.

Anthony: 20:44

He said, I want to put hands in place that I've never seen. I know what you meant. I know what you meant. It's a weird way to say it. But I get it and time and time whenever from Monterey Romana they never said she now like I said if you know, you know, I think if you ask

Unknown: 21:01

a woman that is of age and that's about seven Campbell and you ask them do you think developers gay?

Anthony: 21:09

I can feel confident that the majority I'm not gonna say 100% because I don't believe in extremes the majority will say probably or oh hell you just kind of know like you just it kind of figures that is actually this is actually a good segue that's a really good segue because did he and we're gonna get to him in a moment did he had a conversation this week on Instagram live basically basically calling like you know, like who killed who killed r&b and for the most part, most people blame him which was funny. I don't think he did though. Because

Jeff: 21:47

I don't know when toy was dope.

Anthony: 21:49

But it wasn't really hip hop label. I mean, I'm sorry it was it was a hip hop living Not really. But he

Jeff: 21:54

had I mean may have Faith Evans once Well, Mary Jay that's all r&b No. Matter of fact, he probably had more r&b artists and rappers on the shit because he would always push he would only put one or two rappers at a time you know say Biggie then he would write the biggie and Biggie died and then was mace you know I'm saying correct man. He didn't he never really pushed a bunch of he had the locks but then they they they wanted to bounce I don't forget about total he most of his group's r&b So you could probably consider bad boy in r&b label with with some rappers

Anthony: 22:26

No, no the hip hop label with some r&b The thing is that we're bad boy all our all the hip hop artists just ended up being disgruntled. No one ever ever left Bad Boy happy. Big died. Craig mag Craig Magda Disney. I will put death point over. Alright, so let's run it down. Big gone. Moon went to jail. Makes became a pastor.

Unknown: 22:53

I'm happy big time. Craig.

Anthony: 22:56

Matt. Whatever. Craig moon base. The lots got pissed off and they left. Yeah, pretty much all of that all a rap argument label just like and I fucked up the money. And I hate when they do the thing about no. Did he and Mary J. He was responsible for her early and uptown. Everything after that. That wasn't Diddy. He's important to that same thing with him and Josie. He brought them there. And he did their thing. But after that it really them too. I know. They always give the credit. Did he but that's that's all Andrei Herrero. It is. All right from from that point. And from now early point on what's the 411 with Diddy on that?

Unknown: 23:39

I think going forward.

Anthony: 23:41

That's all Andre that's all Marriott did. He deserves some credit. But you know, I won't give too much. But do you think for one of two parts? Do you think r&b is dead? And if it is dead who

Unknown: 23:53

killed it? I mean,

Jeff: 23:55

I wouldn't say it's dead. It's like saying hip hop is dead because you know, you can still find the shit that you like. There's a pocket for everybody but mainstream. I think mainstream hip hop is dead. Yes. And that includes r&b. Like the shit you're gonna the shit you turn on the radio. If you still listen to radio, and you hear that that shit is dead. Hmm, you could still go underground and find shit you like, you know, I'm saying it's out there. It's just not being put in the forefront right now. Like it was back then. Like always talk about how the 90s is the best era for everything, especially for music. And going back to gay artists. Like you know we talk about the night now you would probably agree that the 90s is the best era Correct? Or one of the best but is it the most Now you think about is it the most homophobic era where we the most homophobic back in the 90s like from 90 From like late 80s to like maybe the 2000 like like Tevin Campbell said you couldn't be gay back then. You know, I'm saying I couldn't come out back then. I mean, I would got crucified.

Anthony: 24:53

Oh, he's right at the moment and hip hop back then he threw around a word faggot.

Jeff: 24:56

Really bitches and hoes like we was hitting two women like the music we was bumped into Shiva and women were like, Yeah, this is my song. Bitches ain't shit buttholes and trick like, yeah, that's my song. But we were demeaning to women. We were very homophobic. Everybody was a faggot, or, you know, whatever.

Anthony: 25:10

We would go in and we was homophobic and masculine, did not care.

Jeff: 25:15

But it still made for some of the best music but now obviously, you know, in a different era. I'm not gonna call this I mean, I often do call it the soft error but yeah, it's more accepting of everybody which is a positive. I don't want to you know misconstrue my words, but it's a positive that we're more accepting of, you know, everybody is more open to their sexuality. If you're trans if you're gay, whatever. Okay.

Anthony: 25:34

That's kind of alive.

Jeff: 25:35

What do you mean it's more accepted now? And the ones that don't accept it, they're like, you know, they have to be in the gotta be in the background or get cancelled, quote

Anthony: 25:42

unquote, right, but it wasn't what it wasn't like an evolution. It was A revolution, they force the ship forward period. And I have zero issue with it at all. I think progress should be evolutionary. But sometimes, if things are not going the way that you're supposed to, you have to do so with force, you have to be revolutionary. They didn't they push for every single thing that the LGBTQ wanted. And they got marriage got it. Forms of equality got it before you can own property and a guy that was like, we just gonna let this go into place like, no, they fall for every law every inch every now they did it. So when it comes to hip hop, like, there's still a push back to you see, guys, and they do things like, oh, that's kind of gay. And I be like, I don't really care. I just, it's just not for me. And I mean that. And I take that very personally. Because like, when I see the way certain dudes dress, when I see the way certain people like or things that they wear, I don't care, like, um, was a car, he was wearing a kilt. Like, why is he wearing a dress? Like it's a kilt? It's not a dress, like it's kind of formed. It's fashion. It's based off Scotch design. Yeah.

Jeff: 26:56

Are you Irish?

Anthony: 26:58

Scottish, right. But that's the whole thing. Look, look, white rest the whole thing. We can't be particular about that. Because we let White people slide with our clothes and our hairstyles all the time. You cannot cut you cannot have it both ways. Either. You have to be willing to really hold on to your culture as tight as possible. And not let anyone have it. Or let it be shared. For all that isn't zero, something either shared to everybody or was just for us. It's kind of like the like diverse thing. Again, we'll get to that they have this problem with Triller. I think that versus biggest problem like for them to be as successful as they want to be, they have to expand beyond hip hop. They have to, for it to explode the way that thinking about it to really, really, like make this thing successful. They have to because the thing with hip hop and r&b, certain people that you want to get to do it, they're not going to do it in a manner that you want to this, Your Honor versus Beyonce, this J verse that's not going to happen in this manner. And in that way. And everyone always says like, my dream matchup is this because it's a dream. Now, let's say you expand beyond that. And let's say you do, Brittany and Christina, how many millions of views you think that gets probably the most ever? Right? Let's say you get backstreet versus insync. Same shit, trillion Ryan, because you have to expand the on this culture because you've already sold. So you might as well maximize profit. If it was just for hip hop artists, you wouldn't have the regular one you wouldn't have the Spanish reggaeton when you would have just kept it you know, hip hop and r&b. But you're limiting your sphere of influence. Now, the way it goes back to this whole thing about being gay, you're allowing artists to expand themselves, you're allowing them to be within hip hop because they've earned the right because they have the ability to do this and carry this culture forward successfully. The thing with Tevin is that I'm glad he's being honest with themselves. I'm glad he's being truthful about it, because he needs it, he deserved it, and everything else like that. And also loops back to the same thing about what the depth of r&b I dropped my bottom, it's gonna be okay, r&b didn't die. r&b is just missing his mid tier artists. Those are the people that actually influence the majority of us to influence other generations. Because I was having a discussion before every generation always had a, like a top tier. A bunch of guys who were B plus to be a really big middle than put up, like sit in the 70s it was Marvin, and it was like Stevie and 80s was Michael and Prince and the 90s was Usher and Mary J. Blige. 2000s It was Chris Brown and it's always someone at the top and all the guys underneath that below that Tevin Campbell was never that level but heavy to Campbell was an r&b artists that you listen to tanks one of those guys Teresa's one of those guys. Jay Holliday is a new guy who's like that. But like say it's the tear kind of thing. Like but I do think that r&b is dead I think did he have exaggerates because there's a lot of great artists just haven't quite hit that tear in our minds but they're kind of there her is there are Linux is probably going away. Alicia Keys has been there it's a lot of things a lot of r&b, but the whole thing above the the regular broken on the record, broken on the radio here and everywhere kind of artists, that method just doesn't exist anymore. They create themselves they sing, and everything else like that. And I obviously feel this way. The thing if you're going to say anything killed r&b, it was probably shit like, America's Got Talent in American Idol. Because that's where you're finding these aren't the eggs that we use to be on radio and being on labels meaning that they're already on the star path. They're already on the machine. They don't have to, you know, do a little things or be on the, you know, the undercard of some bonuses, concerts and stuff like that they coming off this show already prepped and ready to be stars. They got producers, they got the label, they got the money. And everyone you have an audience of millions watching them every week seeing that they are amazingly talented. That's why even now, years later, you still hear of Kelly Clarkson. You see her Hill Jennifer Hudson, still here Fantasia, they started there. Like, it was like, you know, it was on somebody's album singing background. No, I was every week in front of millions of people singing my fucking heart out. And ya know, I got this talent. And once I released this album, I can do this and tour and do all the other shit. If anything that killed r&b, not anything else to them. I'll focus on about the game changing. They played along with it and they making money off of it. Not gonna argue with them. Well, you

Jeff: 31:29

mentioned Triller. You know, we know that Swizz Beatz and timberland are suing them for like 28 million over the vs platform that they created right? Run by Brett so you know, so did he goes on Instagram Live and he tells Jermaine Dupri you know you can get the smoke anytime. And he goes since we ain't fucking with vs no more because they fucking around with our boys. We don't need to be going against each other did you say let's come together and do that bad boy so so def in Atlanta, and ain't no VS is just hit for hit. And we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. Ain't nobody fucking with bad boy man and oh versus that's why I did he before for the longest time. He said that Dre was the only person that he wanted to do a versus wig because nobody else can can hang you know, I mean catalog versus catalog. Jermaine Dupri don't got hits for bad boy, he just doesn't.

Anthony: 32:16

And command has the r&b bag. Did he has a hip hop back. They can't do so so def can't compete with them in regards to hip hop. They can compete with them Regards r&b. But this is what I fuckin hate about this whole vs thing. I think that you should be able to just do one thing and call it a day. What I mean by that is this. They should really have a versus words like songwriter versus songwriter. I wrote this shit. Like on verse that you get a lot of guys like they only got so many hits, like, oh, I wrote this one. And I wrote that one for producing I hate like, no, no. We're going to do this pocket right here. I understand what I'm talking about. And I have a different lanes. But let's think about hip hop, you have writers, producers, artists, like they're there. Sometimes they're separate. Sometimes they're all in the same. Neil is one of them did, he's one of them. JD is one of them. But the whole thing is like I want you to just do the shit that you produced. Or I want you to do the shit that you just wrote. Or the ship that you performed on or that you were featured on. That's it. Now you're gonna have a lot of big sways with this whole bad boy and so so definitely, as a matter of fact, I'm probably going to go so depth over Bad Boy Yeah, yeah, I think about about probably well, because the thing that you're going to run into quite simply is you know, Jermaine, if I just want to be configured I want to be a very old

Jeff: 33:36

man he's gonna come out with like little bow and the brand and criss cross. Meanwhile did he's out here with you know, with Biggie and Lil Kim and the locks and 112 Like it's no comparison, bro. Come on,

Anthony: 33:49

right there on the r&b ship puts him in a body bag. But like I said, if you if you throw out one tweet, I'm gonna jagged edge. Come on, man. Stop it. If you're throwing up Mary Jay, he gives me just gonna throw up Mariah, and he's gonna throw out a shirt and you're gonna throw our feet. He's gonna He's gonna do that. But alright. Alright. I understand. Like it almost seemed like it was kind of like a reflex a run of the mill thing. Why did they announce this? And there's really kind of nothing set in stone. They said they were going to do this in Atlanta. And I'm like, All right, cool. But when and where in Atlanta because, you know, football starting up in Atlanta. College two basketballs like, where to fuck are you going to do this? We're gonna have time to do it. Like you'd have. Like, did he say I'm not gonna do the New York you're gonna do in Atlanta. Alright, cool. But what's the date? Like, what do you think will be the best date for them?

Jeff: 34:40

Oh, no, man. It's gonna be hard during football season. I mean, they're not gonna they're probably not gonna pack no stadium or nothing like that. It'll pick a little venue. You know? Maybe get somebody to sponsor a shamrock and whoever else when you know, they'll do sadaqa do some quick it ain't gonna be on a Sunday. I'll tell you that. You're gonna be

Anthony: 34:58

by Denise Barker.

Jeff: 35:00

It'll be like on a little bad boy. Bad boy. Saturday night type of

Anthony: 35:03

what? What did you mean the pre own Oh, like, I gotta find a company. It can't be bad boy versus five bucks and rock.

Jeff: 35:13

Oh, man and do it in his hometown. We'll do it in your hometown all my products are sponsoring the

Anthony: 35:18

ship he say and did he say since we've been fucking with versus no more because they fucking around with our boys we don't need to be going against each other let's come together and do that bad boy so so def in Atlanta it ain't no versus just hit for hit the gym man was like let's do it. So it's not a versus and the, you know, the fucking around with that $20 million dollar thing? Well,

Jeff: 35:36

they probably can't use that and right that verbiage versus so he'll he'll I'm sure they'll come up with a new name.

Anthony: 35:42

Right. And they could do it. But I mean, like, you'd want to top your head right? about how this will go down like are you sure? Like, like you think bad boy is going to smoke them or it's gonna be

Jeff: 35:54

like really now that you mentioned Mariah and Russia and some of these others I might be closer than I than I anticipated.

Anthony: 36:02

Right cuz because they said him hit. Right so they're gonna do two in this one we're gonna do that I wrote this I did this I yatta yatta yatta yatta yatta which the whole lot when we think about Jermaine Dupri. It's a long time like, I mean, he could pull out that the Destiny's Child says we want to come on yeah,

Jeff: 36:20

I mean, it did it did it's not easy to do you don't know for Mariah Jermaine Dupri starts playing Mariah joins, you don't got no faith or nothing. I could compete with that.

Unknown: 36:31

Escape there.

Anthony: 36:34

See, I mean, like, like, it could do money, anything like he was on a shoot with Jay Z, like, I can play this shit. I can do a lot.

Jeff: 36:43

It would have to be strategic, what songs you play and in what order, it can be very close at the end of the day.

Anthony: 36:49

Because the whole thing is that he's not calling it a diversity, but we're going to look at his verse. Because if you play one that you play, when you play when you play one is basically the verses format, whatever the universe is, quite simply what it is. Like I said, I got I got so so def, it's not by a lot. It's small. It's a really, really good 20 tracks.

Jeff: 37:08

Now, they probably play because if you do, like if I say okay, they nobody has a longer catalog than Diddy. But if you have to narrow it down to 10 or 20 tracks and yeah, it could be close you know, I'm saying

Anthony: 37:20

Man, if you're gonna have this in a big thing, you'd better be more than 20 tracks.

Jeff: 37:24

Yeah, I don't know like I got over titled tracks.

Anthony: 37:28

Did he Did he could

Jeff: 37:29

pull out fishing track to get the fuck out 50 tracks bro. Hits.

Anthony: 37:36

Um, Jamaican Jamaican below 50 you can I'm telling you even if it's just dumb like like I'm if you pull that from Chris brochette I'm saying I might be stupid. But that jumpsuit come on you tell me that gonna you know make you criss cross and make you

Jeff: 37:55

uh huh winner Alicia face Dr. Dre they should make they should make like the fans vote is to have like a poll up on the on the website or whatever. And make people vote and then when you decide a winner like let's stop this friendly shitless decide winners man whatever happened to you know friendly competition where we actually decide winners man that's why this ever is fucking soft this shit. Nobody wants to lose you lose you lose bro you win some you lose some

Anthony: 38:20

people start a shot. That's happened to friendly competition. My focus to get you to personally wants to be

Jeff: 38:26

competitive. No better these days, man.

Anthony: 38:30

Fuck your life.

Jeff: 38:31

You beat me by one point you're gonna die tonight.

Anthony: 38:35

Some dude percent outside of the quote with the gun and I'm like, but like shit. I must have missed this on purpose. Fuck about admittedly. I better look like I'm gonna make a detour my hand a little bit to the right like, Fuck, I missed it like hell yeah.

Jeff: 38:48

I want to take the money

Anthony: 38:50

you ever seen above that was one of my favorite shirts. Yo, yo, he has the gun in the bag the whole time. It just starts shooting willy nilly. Like, this is like it's the worst Hitman ever. Like to pilot you're gonna be like, Yo, go shoot him. He just gets the bag with walks across the car and just start firing.

Jeff: 39:10

It looks the same. I forget the actor's name. Yeah, he still looks the same bro. What Harrison would do. It was crazy. And like and then at the end you have Marlon Williams fucking shoot the shit out of Tupac.

Anthony: 39:20

The Club? Like yeah, you bullying me? No more. Yes, it is but you put into what looks at Matt Pat, and just shoots him like he would Harris is one of those ageless all stars. Like Morgan Freeman got to a particular age where no matter what he was going to be that

Unknown: 39:38

age forever. It's a white guy named Ed Harris.

Anthony: 39:42

You seen a rock with a Sean Connery and my brother. Right? The military guy the guy with the whole sunroof missing? Yep. He looks the same now. 20 years. He looks exactly the same. And Top Gun Maverick. Nothing changed is weird and certain people get to a certain age and it's stuck there. Like Ben said it looks older. Sam Jackson looks older. But some people Morgan Freeman and Morgan Freeman for like 40 years. I don't know how oldest negates

Jeff: 40:10

Patrick Stewart and you know, usually white people don't age the same as black people, you know, without being racist. But Patrick Stewart has been old forever since he was in Star Trek. I remember being little and saying Yo, Patrick Stewart would play a great professor X. Because he just looked like him and everything and sure enough, he's been Professor X for like the last 20 years. And he still looks kind of the same. Now you look a little older. But he's been old. He'd been like 60 years old for like 30 years.

Anthony: 40:39

Bro Morgan Freeman 80 5am he

Jeff: 40:41

walking around with earrings on and every

Anthony: 40:45

earrings living his life. 85 years old. was born in 1937. He is the civil rights era.

Jeff: 40:53

His parents were slaves and shit. He probably got stories

Anthony: 40:57

at five years old and like say he's still here kicking it, but he's been 85 years old for like 40 years. You can look at him now and look at him in seven it still looks like it's the same fucking guy like you've been this old forever. Like, like life to stop. But this is what you're gonna

Jeff: 41:13

do. Jackson, Ben Baldwin long as I remember him and when he came into the McDonald was trying to shoot up the place and come into America and hit and he had him but he didn't really look young there. Then he was like middle age. He looked he looked no age. And that's 30 years

Anthony: 41:28

ago. He might be less less. That's the whole thing. My black Jackson. Samuel L Jackson is 73 He's a superhero

Jeff: 41:38

broke. He's one of the Justice League more of the Avengers.

Anthony: 41:43

Yeah, I'm trying to he has a play with him. I think Daniel Brooks and John David Washington on Broadway called the piano lesson. I'm trying to get tickets to see it because they haven't Broadway which is basically you buy one ticket you

Unknown: 41:55

get another one free. Trying to expand my horizon.

Anthony: 41:59

Do you know the L and Sammy? Oh, Jackson,

Unknown: 42:00

Lawrence. I'll give you two more guesses.

Jeff: 42:04

Then Lars would have been perfect Samuel Lawrence likes Laurence Fishburne.

Anthony: 42:08

So the L I give it I give it give you two more guesses things

Jeff: 42:11

like Emil Larry. That's not black. Nope. Got one more.

Unknown: 42:16

You got one more levar No. Leroy

Jeff: 42:21

Leroy green. Who's the Master Bruce Lee Roy

Anthony: 42:27

got some real for us and he's hands on fucking part at the end. I love the part where like no you know he gets the glow in his hand starts short circuited.

Jeff: 42:38

You got the glow? You know what?

Anthony: 42:42

Used to be my shit. But I know but that's I'm saying that's hip hop. It's a stupid ass Chinese movie.

Jeff: 42:47

But a black movie that took from Chinese culture. Or Asian coaches are

Anthony: 42:56

sick and tired of why Bruce Lee roar kicks his bullet Rich Dad upper

Jeff: 43:01

level your mind body and soul must sacrifice it's a way of life. When you got to go Oh, no. Don't even think that movie made a lot of money, bro. But that shit is a Coke Classic.

Anthony: 43:30

Man. I think that's just on Netflix. I've watched it a couple days ago.

Jeff: 43:33

You ain't never seen nobody else from that movie ever again. The only you know who made it the biggest of all the people in that movie? Who made it? Hell no. She got into drugs and shit and everything.

Anthony: 43:46

She's talking Hi,

Jeff: 43:47

the little kid and he was little in the movie. The little Chinese kid. He was part of the clique and he was fucking awful

Anthony: 43:52

because up. Oh, I'm Ernie Reyes. Yeah,

Jeff: 43:55

I forgot what his name was. He was on the Ninja Turtles. He has a movie with the rock where he loves the rocks as

Anthony: 44:01

he was great. Yeah, he did. He did some shit. The Rundown. Oh there he is beaten adults.

Jeff: 44:07

But I remember him again. Ninja Turtles he was in a couple of Ninja Turtles. And he was one of the turtles actually like the first one they used him as a stunt man for the turtles and then in the second one he actually gave them a character he was like the pizza delivery kid. But like martial arts

Anthony: 44:21

Absolutely. But men before we said about like what you call up the coach the coach is going to be what's going to be because that that turtle rep should never happen somebody should have swung you know if you sit down with me man I know if you if you start wrapping that shit right now next time I see I'm going through someone to hit you don't get mad. I'm letting you come that that shoe is so stupid. Like okay, so then jump random. Go but yeah, I think Suge Knight always erase all that shit. When I'm beating your wife and I was hitting you saying Go ninja Go ninja go watch there's gonna be golden nugget golden selling I hate that song. They're they're in like some some random ass like warehouse in Brooklyn and it turns into a club this white guy. Yeah, there's white guys there with this fucked up haircut wrapping and underneath them. There are turtles fighting over it sighs man with with claws and

Jeff: 45:17

it's stupid as a kid we shut up

Anthony: 45:21

because we was dumb as kids we don't realize now like I didn't. I was like, yeah,

Jeff: 45:25

that's my shit. Right? Didn't get a mic. And then they beat up all the bad guys. And then he started doing a dance really choreographed on the spot.

Anthony: 45:35

Oh my god. If you would have guessed who was my favorite ninja turtle? Who would it be

Jeff: 45:39

Raphael? Gonna tell why cuz he's a genius. I figured you'd be the loner and rebel.

Anthony: 45:46

The antihero Rafi. really had no no because like I talked to people and people like me Raphael egg imagine like something's wrong like like you got you got three other brothers you just feel unloved you don't care like I'm gonna kill everything you think turtle growing up Michelangelo how you know

Jeff: 46:06

you seem like time for pizza hint Get the fuck about shit bro who's just smoking weed and eating pizza bro

Anthony: 46:14

like like like Michelangelo had fun with life Leonardo seem too serious to just last want to be some leadership Donatella was like Yo, I fuck with y'all but I'm gonna build some shit I want to tinker that's what I like for him raffia to seem like yeah

Jeff: 46:28

well yeah he wants to be by himself bro he was like fuck this shit

Anthony: 46:31

yeah and he had like the corner use weapon I gotta thought you got nunchucks I gotta boast that you got like you got too big so I'd be mad he

Jeff: 46:42

was always trying to find you know your your normal rate of whip his ass like you I don't want to kill you bro I'm a fuck you up like back up?

Anthony: 46:50

Like I have these long swords I'm trained I

Jeff: 46:53

train all day every day. Yes is walking around in fucking like the undertaker outfit. I'm out here training 24 hours a day, bro I'm gonna fuck you up

Anthony: 47:02

because Leonardo was like the turtle Captain America. That's it. He just wanted to be sharper by the ship and he wanted to lead made him a turtle super hard his brother may have time fishing. I want to challenge you for like, Ross cinammon fuck you up. Sit down, relax, relax, brother. Calm down. Yeah,

Jeff: 47:19

one last thing

Unknown: 47:21

when you get an insurer tattooed on your face.

Jeff: 47:25

But that's a good segue into our next topic. Because now that you mentioned face tattoos, Cardi B is the latest rapper to get a face tattoo after Drake got got one recently a few weeks ago right? I don't know what she's getting but she posted a video of you know, the dude doing her face. And I was gonna ask you like what is your take on his shit bro like do you do you do you see people differently when you see him with a face that to you? Do you judge them a certain way? Like do you judge their character like does face tattoo make you see somebody at a different light? And I thought about this because I mean you were at a wedding this past weekend right and continue and there was a gentleman there that have face tattoos and and I was talking to him you know I introduced myself because you know you know how I do and these events bro we go to parties anywhere any social gathering if I don't know you I want to introduce myself I need to know the fuck you are right. Like who do you know at this party? I'll tell you who I know and we mangled? You know, I'm saying hello I'm that guy that goes around and introduce myself to everybody. So anyway, I introduced myself to my man he was with his girl and we started kicking he got all types of tattoos on his face right? And he started telling me you know yeah, good you know this is my past. He told me he's Muslim now is a Latin brother. He told me he's Muslim Now you know we chopped it up Allah he telling me like people judge me because I got these tattoos on my face you know, but that says this is not who I am now you know what I mean? That's who I was back then. You know, it was I was when I was hustling out in the streets and living that type of lifestyle etc you know rolling were with gang members and this and that and he telling me like now you know, I don't regret my tattoo because that's you know, that's that's who I was That's That's why I'm that's part of me type shit. But you know, he was like, I got kids now I got daughters and Snana you know, I'm a hard working man I do what I gotta do for my family you know I'm saying it's like alright, you get a vitiation but you know you understand that for the rest of your life you're gonna be judged is going to be harder for you to walk into an office and try to apply for a job you're gonna have to you know, that's gonna limit the type of jobs you get to apply for right? It gets to limits the type of circles you get to to be in right so you have to understand this you know, it's not fair, but you will be judged and you know, I don't know when this just started. You know, I'm saying because in I don't want to single out a single a single region or single part of the country. But as far as I can remember the first people that I saw having the face tattoos were like this down south rappers like Birdman Lil Wayne, right? You start and then you started seeing like west coast rappers the game has some face tattoos and stuff like that but I never really saw this out here in the West in the East Coast rather I never saw it in New York. You never really saw New York rappers or or in general and you know, northeast people with face tattoos. Now everybody seems to be having them and I'm wondering when did this start who started it you know what I mean? Like what where did this trend be? You know begin like I'll go back actually the only time I would ever see people would affect that tooth with the little teardrop remember that? Yeah. Every once in a while you will see somebody with a chair drop and we kind of knew what it meant like, oh, okay, he shot somebody or he killed somebody. Or if it was colored in and met one thing if it was just a clear, sheer drop it meant you know, something else. And didn't everybody didn't? Didn't I remember I used to ask people like Yo, you you killed somebody put you know, forgive me for asking but you killed nah, nah, I'm like oh, you got you just got the teardrop. Yeah, just got so just be It became from being something symbolic that of the gang life or that type of culture, to just everybody just doing it for fashion. And now everybody's just getting, you know, the whole face tatted up, then Mike Tyson got it. He was probably one of the first New York dudes that I saw with the face tattoo. You know what I mean? But now Drake got it, Cardi B got one. Anyway, what's your take on the whole shipment?

Anthony: 51:10

Oh, if you're drinking your Cardi B, you can afford it. Like, that's the biggest difference. Like, I don't, I don't see them going for a job interview, like ever again, like if you achieve some level of

Unknown: 51:22

fame or success, and you're able to do so you should do so

Anthony: 51:27

if you may, if that's what moves you. Because, you know, like, you get like rock and roll artists, like they have tattoos going up in the neck all around the body, so forth. But I mean, it's it's part of what they do is part of the path they've chosen. You know how it is? Can you have tattoos? Yes. You have plenty, yes. But you also already know that you probably need to put them into particular places and spaces where it's difficult for people to see. Because they will judge you or they want to understand what the meaning of this isn't that is and so on so forth. Should someone get a face tattoo? I'm not necessarily saying that this should especially if you're going to be like 90% of the population here in the US gainfully employed by somebody else. If you're working for somebody else, they got particular codes of conduct and dress, but you can't have it. Now, if you go ahead and do it, the allmost one, like they say you can't do it. But once they hire you, and you do it like are they going to fire you. It's a petty reason to fire somebody, but it is possible. But the thing that you're always going to run into this quite simply is this, you go about it and you have these things, you have a settings, you know that there is a particular stigma, that's going to go along with it, that people are going to judge you even if you don't want them to. It's kind of part of the nature. It's like seeing. So weird comparison, but it's like seeing a very young girl pregnant. We don't know the circumstances of it, but we're going to look at it particularly in a way and ask questions about her her family, the pregnancy, yet and all the above. Because we can't help us we have to put judgment upon people. Sometimes. It's for understanding, but it's really it's really to just to know that you're better than this person. Like, like, I know, I'm freaking police, I can get a job because I've got tattoos on my face all over the place. Like why would you do that? Like you have to respect people's individuality. If they want to do so they want to do so. But they have to understand that certain consequences that kind of go along with it. They're going to look at you in a particular way. Now,

Jeff: 53:25

I'd say if you get them removed, but I mean it just looks painful, bro, it's a personal choice. It should just looks painful. And I understand it hurts even more trying to get it laser removed. I'm saying I got tattoos. I'm not gonna say I'm anti tattoo I got to do but I don't think I could ever get a tattoo from my neck up. Like I don't I feel like there's a lot of veins in that area that could just you know some could fuck up leave your face. You know you're

Anthony: 53:50

not doing your next fine cuz your neck has muscle right? The plates the places you don't want to get them tattooed on. Unless you really like pain are is your feet, your hands and your ribs? Because there's no not yet and in the red above me there's something good if you have some red muscle on top of it you're okay. But there's no there's no like muscle there's little muscle face but there's no like bigger thicker muscle sampling on the hands is basically skin a little bit of thin layer of fat and his bone same thing your feet. You could do it but it's going to you have to know that this is going to hurt because now like any other your other body groups where there's like some padding around ain't no pen. This is just bone. So if you do it in your face like if you're even feeling like a temple like a Nair you could just touch like damn, there's my eye socket you get all along the top of your eyebrow or your jaw line or wherever.

Unknown: 54:44

What I get a face tattoo.

Anthony: 54:46

No, if I don't know if the Giants offered me $2 million to get a giant tattoo on my neck I probably doing

Jeff: 54:53

that so you're doing that shit on your big ass head to right on your scalp?

Anthony: 54:58

I might I might do like a nearby temple. I wouldn't put it right in the middle my forehead like like that's that's like like a target where you want to get shot like I'm gonna shoot him in the Giants.

Unknown: 55:06

I'm putting on your neck. It seems a lot more

Jeff: 55:11

feasible $2 million. I'm tattooing some shit wherever the fuck you want.

Anthony: 55:15

I'm a tattoo with a Hulu has live sports.

Jeff: 55:20

Walking and we're going to see that so why are we gonna see that so we're gonna see rappers and entertainers just get like Netflix, Hulu, because they're gonna get paid millions to just be a walking billboard. It's gonna happen.

Unknown: 55:31

They get the pet. They get the patches though. Yeah, they're gonna get the I mean,

Anthony: 55:35

I wouldn't. I it is a person.

Jeff: 55:39

You imagine walking around with a blockbuster tattoo, like yeah, my focus went out of business, but you stuck with the tattoo.

Anthony: 55:44

Yeah, man. You ain't getting them more checks. Go. You go We are fitted hat for the rest of your life. Like you take your hat off and Sasser like I can't do that blockbuster on my forehead. But what have blockbuster. See if I had to take the hat off? I have to explain it to you if I keep it on, I don't have to do this. It was a video store 20 years ago. Like I would like now because like the money like some of these companies have I wouldn't be surprised if someone had like Pornhub Pornhub tattooed on them somewhere something that you know ain't gonna go nowhere. Yeah, it didn't go anywhere. But I'm trying to remember what the world was like before Pornhub like mad janky streaming

Jeff: 56:20

have no internet. We had none of that shit. We was just getting magazines bro.

Anthony: 56:24

Porn. It was a wild wild west it was known for tapes, VHS tapes

Jeff: 56:27

and magazines.

Anthony: 56:30

In the fucked up part that you knew who had the magazines because we went to store like the magazines in a brown bag like then a Sports Illustrated is it. I enjoyed more power to you. They always say they always had the one little slip when he could slide it in and no one would know. But now you got to go him by Barbara.

Jeff: 56:49

Derek Jeter cover. Should I get this Janet Jameson damn decision. I only got 10 bucks on me. Can't get both like this.

Anthony: 56:55

We're just what we're gonna do. We're gonna wrap it in the Jameson up with the Derek Jeter cover said nobody's no no. Don't Don't put that don't punish it on the table. Like that. Don't do that. We know what it is. We all and that's what I hate. I hate when people become proofed about shit. We all had porn. We all watched it some people like oh my god. Yes you did. Even who wasn't a full blown stuff. You watched Cinemax. The close up that was that was born. Remember that it was a soft port. It was it was still pointed just in sort of penetrate. So it was a shame just so breath. People rocking back and forth. Use your imagination. Like I guess. Yeah, like, like they gave you like the blueprint like you can fill in the rest. Like you watch the other shit. Put that shit knit together, you get the whole thing. But that's the whole thing. Everyone had their their everybody had something? I'm glad to

Jeff: 57:44

answer the question when you judge a dude, or a person with tattoos on your face.

Anthony: 57:49

Nigga. I said, No, I do not. What's the point? What I don't, I can't judge you by whatever you are. Because at the point that I'm meeting you, I'm meeting this person that they're pointless. Now, if you want to tell me about the stories of your tattoos, you can, you don't have to because I don't know you. But I'm not going to be afraid of you. I'm not going across the fucking street cred yet tattooed on your face. Could you could have them teardrops. I don't know if you're gonna kill or not. But I'm not trying to find out right now. I don't think you want to find out if your kid would be either. Um, we're not doing that. Like I said, it's more like, he like he that he came up to you and kind of broke down the story to you, right? Yeah,

Jeff: 58:24

he didn't give me the specifics of each tattoo. He just told me you know, that's not who I am now, back, you know, whatever, whatever. And but you know, it was a cool dude, bro. Real cool, dude. And I'm like, you know, it's a different story. If I sat there, he tells me like, yeah, I feel like killing somebody in this party right now would have been like, whoa, shit, I'm gonna have to call the authorities.

Anthony: 58:41

My whole thing in the wire murder here. Like, how did they get an invite? This shit makes no sense to me. I think it's the tattoos that didn't give it away. Like, because even if even if you have tattoos on your body, and people can't see them, right? They do tell a very particular strike. Correct? Right. The ones when that person says it tells a particular story about a particular point in life. I cannot judge them on that point. They want to explain that to me. But most time when they have that kind of face art, it means something because it's different. Because it's not like it's something on your chest or your arms, your back like, whatever. This is something that you're going to show off to the entire world every time you look at you. So there is a story behind it. Now, if you want to share this shit

Unknown: 59:23

with me, you can share sheet with me. But for me, am I going

Anthony: 59:27

to judge you on it? No, it just means there's something interesting that happened in your life for you to do so. And let's say if you want to break it down for me, I'm cool with it. But if you're not, I'm cool with that too. But I'm not gonna look at your face like, oh, well, what does that mean? What does the tattoo cheek mean? Or how many tear drops you have while you're crawling on your forehead? I don't fucking care, that tell the story. If you feel like exchange hit me up right on the head. But until then, I ain't gonna judge as long as you're on a better path now than he was when you got to sit on your face the first time. I'm cool with it, but I'm not going to judge you. And above that.

Jeff: 59:58

It says we talking about art. Kurt Vonnegut said to practice any art no matter how well or badly is a way to make your soul grow. So do it. The culture check out the website of the culture dot one this was episode 107 I did it that and told them I told him what episode it was

Anthony: 1:00:14

shouldn't have told them that but we'll get it next time peace.

Unknown: 1:00:24

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