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June 6, 2022

Only God Can Judge Me

Only God Can Judge Me

Gas Prices are still rising, mass shootings are still occurring, and the culture is still going. Women are catching L's out here, nobody cares about Father's Day and one of our Patrons thinks Jada and Will killed Tupac.

Topics Discussed:

  • Amber Heard losing to Johnny Depp
  • Who are the best producers in Hip Hop history
  • Lil Nas X upset at the BET awards
  • The Game is still talking
  • Why is Father's Day not given as much importance as Mother's Day
  • Did Will and Jada kill Tupac?
  • Is Tupac a better actor then Will Smith?

Featured Song:
Only God Can Judge Me - 2Pac

Referenced Links:
Queen Latifah Addresses Lil Nas X BET Awards Snub | HipHopDX

Johnny Depp v Amber Heard trial updates live: breaking news today, reactions to the verdict, appeal... - AS USA

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Transcript
Jeff:

Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the culture does your boy Jeff I'm here with my man at an in a damp day and change

Anthony:

was good fifty.on a range

Jeff:

the.on The range and the damn thing change going on this week man a shit and like I said I should change my gas prices are still rising, mass shootings are still occurring. And we still doing this. Here's a typical week and the good ol us of a shooting every week though.

Anthony:

I ain't doing that. Now. I

Jeff:

ain't doing even though there was another one in PA and there was another one and some others been like two already this week, maybe three Tennessee some shit like that. Fuck that man.

Anthony:

Big. They happen all the time.

Jeff:

Like we already were numb to the ship.

Anthony:

Yeah, I didn't have numbness. It's just the whole thing. Like they happen all the time. But the kids school shooting, they all bounce up for every time there's a mass shooting, I always put it up but it's always on. So it's not like anything different. Like this is how it goes. I'm not expecting to change other people be shot. Things happen and the things that is getting like most of them, like all the violence should happen in the summertime is right around the corner. Everything high price of food price again, that's why everything. But that's the truth. And that's why

Jeff:

I said it. And one of his songs. And that album that he did with uh, with Kanye. It might have been the song cop shot the key a cop shot the kid the copy, not say he was like, it's the summer where negros die, you know, because statistically, black people get killed the most, for whatever reason, during the summertime, like the numbers say that in the summertime, more blacks get killed than any other time of the year. So go figure.

Anthony:

Like, what does that mean? You gotta find? I don't know, you got to find a stats on that one. It makes sense. Logically, there's more people out door to this more right possibility for interact, right when the time was less because people went outdoors but you want to tight environment is hot, frustrated, everybody's whatever, it turns into something else. But let me match you. It's just an American thing. It's hard to deal with. I mean, you're not gonna find a functional answer for this. I don't think they're going to like I mean, they had a conversation about trying to figure out what is the best way to kind of go about you know, enacting law something else like that and say it again I'm sending that ground as I always do. When they walk in that school and Sandy Hook and they kill and murder white children. They didn't know anything about it after that any any any color of any whatever else like that didn't care about them because then then I don't care about them now they we really are fucked them kids because they're talking about things like you know, how do we defend this? Like we should put more arm government in schools? Like, you know how many schools it is the arm coming in every single one of them. Like, once you get past that first line of defense? What was after that you're gonna start arming teachers, right? It's kind of getting ridiculous,

Jeff:

but the thing is, teachers already complained about being underpaid. Now we want them to learn how to shoot and shit. How much we're gonna pay, we're gonna increase their pay. No, you're not. I'm saying like, hey, we need you to walk around with this gun. We need you to learn how to use the shit. And we need you to be an armed guard as well as a teacher now. Okay, cool. I'm gonna need twice as much money.

Anthony:

And they're gonna be like, No, we're not going to do that. You know? I'm laughing laughing laughing at what it means to be in a classroom where a teacher is armed at least this is not what I want. No,

Jeff:

not at all. But anyway, let's get into some good news. We have Mikey she was in our neck of the woods this week. being taken to the ghetto got to we got to chill with him. Yeah, give him a tour of the hood. And then we took him to the bar. Shout out to Mikey sheet.

Anthony:

What's his dog's name?

Jeff:

I'll fucking remember it. I think it was Audrey or Adi.

Anthony:

Some dog was apparent in your home. You didn't want like the only dog.

Jeff:

Yeah, it was the most well behaved dog I've ever seen in my life. And that's no cap. That's that's not hyperbole. This dog didn't bark not once. It didn't pee. It didn't shit. It didn't bite. It didn't it didn't do nothing, bro. It was the cleanest most polite dog I have ever seen. So shout out to Mikey she's dog. I told him I'd pay him for that show. I told him I give him a check for $1,000 for this year. He said he's gonna think about it. He has to talk. He has to talk it over. We're in first.

Anthony:

You're really gonna buy this man's dog.

Jeff:

Yo, that shit is the most perfect dog I've ever seen bro. It does. He says everything he says is well behaved at home. You don't got to do shit. It will never pick up the shit in the house. Is one of those dogs hyper allergenic that doesn't shed so I'm gonna worry about that. Because it's supposed to be a service dog.

Anthony:

Hyper allergenic. Like, I get the fucking microphone.

Jeff:

It's supposed to be one of those service dogs was like trained to some shit to just be well behaved and just just, you know, watch out for his master's and shit. I don't know

Anthony:

how basic it is to get a service dog thing. I'm not saying that wouldn't be true. I think you got to be kind of situated you got to be tough. ought to be that way but that's a dog if you teach a dog to beat away you can make your dog reckless the dog will be reckless. Did you really try it and Brett was alive like did you really really give it your all like make sure that dog is as obedient as possible?

Jeff:

Yeah, but the what we had was an English bulldog and they're one of the most stubborn dogs so the amount of patience that it takes and time and dedication it's otherworldly. So we did our best like Yeah, we had them you know sitting and giving a handshakes and letting us know when he needed to go outside you know, I'm saying we got that far but so only so much you could do with English Bulldog. The stubbornness shit.

Anthony:

So what you're trying well who that deals to get the dog mine probably it was that dog in particular

Jeff:

that's the dog of any dog dog I want to yes

Anthony:

no research and then like I'm gonna get this done. I did research I had to definitely a lot of research. Knowing that you're dealing with a stubborn fucking dogs were like, No, I can fix it. Yeah. No dogs asked like I had a Rottweiler my Rottweiler was super well trained really?

Jeff:

Well, it you have to put them down because people

Anthony:

know it's got old and died and dog never been anybody. Not one single soul. It was it was obedient. It didn't really bark a whole bunch of bark was someone that was at the door. But it was like it was no one like it didn't like the dog and had a sense of like family members though. Wouldn't bark but if marijuana if it had to sniff him rumors wouldn't bark. If it was someone else like mailman or someone else come to it would do that. And I will sit and I will write while two big T shirt rollover. That's just dumb. Like I don't know why people teach dogs the rollover it's stupid. But you know sit obey command give me Paul stuff like that. It will do like a little scratch at the door. We did it like like, go outside and like it will make a little noise we had when a dog was hungry basic, but you had to keep teaching shit. That's all dog never beautiful. I missed my dog.

Jeff:

Alright, well moving on. Women are out here catching girls out here, bro. Like first it was Blac Chyna losing that trial with a against the Kardashians in them. And Rob, and now it's Amber Heard. Lose it to Johnny Depp. The defamation.

Anthony:

But are they ELLs though, are they are they ELLs and their elbows

Jeff:

in the sense that these are cases that historically men always lose against women. And I'm saying when it's against women, the courts historically have all almost always ruled in favor of women. Oh, he looked at me he touched me 20 years ago, you know what I mean? And you know, we say hey, like oh, you know don't don't get at her because this is her you know she's she's healing this is when she chose to come out now or whatever. So for whatever reason, when we go back even even go back to historically black situations where you know, the white woman screamed rape or assault or whatever, with no type of proof or none. And the black man gets arrested and then 20 or 30 years later they find like, oh, yeah, he didn't really do it. You know, I'm saying so this is one of those situations where you know, we talk about mental health we talk about the Will Smith of the world and his toxic relationship. We talk about Johnny Depp we talk about all these guys, Kanye even you know, Tyrese, there's a lot of memes around with Tyrese who's going through his drama with his kids and he's on video crying and you know he's getting clown that Kanye never laughed at it. Right but that's what I'm saying. But you know, these guys get clown that Will Smith comes on TV and he's crying and he gets clown that he's smacking dudes because his wife and he gets clown debt. But we don't really know the underlying circumstances that's causing these dudes to break down like this. You know what I mean? So Johnny Depp finally breaks down. He's like, Yeah, this lady's Wow, she's been abusing me and our whole relationship I'm taking her to court. They countersuing each other for defamation. The point is he gets awarded $10.3 million in damages, something like that. Even though she and rehearse she supposedly has to receive 2 million after winning one of the one count of the defamation countersuit. So whatever I think she so the point is she owes he ends up only like 8 million assumption which he probably doesn't have.

Anthony:

Unless you're in a live star. No one got a million dollars on deck. Yeah,

Jeff:

like she like her whole total net worth is like something like 8 million.

Anthony:

Yeah, and I mean, that's everything. I don't think she got that. So she's probably going to kind of Sue to get it lowered, which is a possibility like so we'll see how it goes.

Jeff:

I've seen a meme online where it showed showed her online for those that movie, the Netflix show that was where people are killing each other for the money. The shit that was real popular recently during the pandemic that everybody's watching

Anthony:

you don't talk about what's been called a game game shit. The squid games. Yeah, it's quick game. Thank

Jeff:

you. So there's a meme where she's sitting in line for the squid game and the Asian dude is number 218. He's in front of her. He's looking back and he's like, What are you doing here? And she's like, I gotta pay Johnny Depp.

Anthony:

People so weird and everybody wants to make drugs I didn't like I kind of cursory looked at the situation and I'm like, it's one of those situations where I understand that just kind of talking about the money value over but I mean, they're both wrong because both of them were just toxic as fuck yeah, they had a video of him cursing off and going up for her didn't they had to think but apparently she's shitting his bed, which is just super weird, but that's how they give it up. I don't have them kind of problems. And I don't want to either. It just the the whole fact that we want to kind of people also want to kind of have a discussion about it, because it like, you know, you talk about toxic men. So what about these toxic women? I think yes. Right. I think it's fair things that comp system needs to be had. I don't know if anybody else wants to have it. But you can have it since it's kind of like I'm having Mother's Day. Like, like Father's Day is coming up. Right, right. What would you expect for Father's Day?

Jeff:

I expect breakfast. And to be left alone to watch my games and watch whatever the fuck I want. And I'm saying that's it. That's pretty much it.

Anthony:

All right. It's June right. Now, as of today, how many Father's Day commercials have you seen?

Jeff:

I honestly, damn. That's a good question. I think I've seen any.

Anthony:

Okay. Stick with me here. before Mother's Day. How many commercials Did you see? Of what a Mother's Day commercials?

Jeff:

Oh, sure. You get the flowers and the 100 flowers and you got the chocolates and teddy bears. And your mom would love this necklace. And she would love this ring and this watch. And your mom did everything for you as a kid. So come to Kay Jewelers and get her something that she will cherish forever. You know, I'm saying like million commercials.

Anthony:

And now hold that thought. And I don't like when people do this personally, I see a lot of people say, you know, to women, Happy Father's Day for doing both parts of your child's life. Mother's Day, you'll hear people saying like, thanks for being the mom and the dad in your child's life. But the weird part is like I guess it's kind of an American design of how we design and feel that nuclear family should be the father should be the provider, the mother should be the caring nurturing one. So we kind of keep that same thing going. But there's this assumption that all these parents are no toxic.

Jeff:

Not only that, though, I think societally we've made it a norm that nobody gives a fuck about single fathers. Right? If you're a single father, all right, you're just doing what you're supposed to do. But single mothers are more common, and get glorified more. And you're not I mean, you put out a certain pedestal because society seems to believe that and maybe it's a fact I'm not sure that they are more single mothers, especially in our culture, than there is single fathers, you know, I'm saying fathers, you know, how many how many friends did you have, or even relatives that grew up without a father. I mean, I can have all types of relatives and friends, cousins, whatever, kids I grew up with, that didn't grow with a father, just a moms. So that's what we know, as a society as a culture, we know that the moms will never leave your side the fathers often do. So that's why they I would have a Father's Day cool. If you're still in your child's life, then good. You're doing what you're supposed to do. Who gives a fuck? As a mother, though, you know what I mean? We got to praise you. You're You're the world you mean everything we're gonna get, you know, I'm saying like, that's what society has made it. Like, where Mother's Day is more important than Father's Day? Whether that's right. I

Anthony:

mean, yeah, I mean, we forgot the idea, the point of it being right or wrong. I'm just kind of thinking more like the sense of parents. Like just because you have your mom doesn't necessarily doesn't necessarily mean that she was a good one. Maybe mother was toxic as fuck, like, maybe in some cases, you're the father is a bad guy. But the mother can be a bad guy too. And this is not to me, women, or anything else like that. I'm just saying that there should be a clear understanding that there's a balance of it, that you cannot keep praising one side and dismissing others when there's dads out there that do try to do give it their all. And it's not one of situations like I want to do more of my childhood. No, my son, my son or daughter mother, not let No, no, I think that if you wanted to be a part of your child's life, you're going to be there. And I think that the assumption that we generally make is something like like we're talking about, we're just ever heard situation. We're talking about the Blac Chyna. situation like Blac Chyna was basically trying to, you know, cheat on Rob Kardashian saying he was a bad debt base, like, you know, she told me she flat broke and like, Robert, like, I give you X amount of money a month. Should it be with Tiger Tiger like hold up, I give you X amount of money a month. So what do you mean, what's going on here? Understand that we had to kind of not shift the perspective to please total blame upon one party or another. But we have to kind of generalize it to see what works in your situation. If your father was a Probably a life surprise that person I don't think just to be father shouldn't pick a day for just if you can say anything with your mother, but if your mother just wasn't a good person she was toxic you should be able to speak up about that as much as people generally do when they have a bad day. And so situation with Amber Heard and the whole situation Rob Kardashian, like they're being victimized and made the women seem like it's a flip on what happens is domestic issues and so on so forth. And so was the guy so on and so forth. And then you know, when this you know, in this institution that is on the female counterparts, you know, people still are reacting the same way. They're making me stop making jokes to make them laugh and so the fourth not really understanding to tell you this situation like that. I mean, they still have like when I when Amber and Johnny Depp like didn't have any kids in the ball, but like, we're trying to you still got robbed. Yeah, so cheer this kid like, I still got a co parent, I still got a court interact you like she's suing him because she said the fucking money not that it robbed was a bad day. But that, you know, the Kardashians pretty much set out to ruin her life. And that give her no opportunities, like but yeah, that's not right, though.

Jeff:

But Rob has the kids for five days out of the week, she only has him like on the weekends. And he's also paying for their private school, which is like all kinds of 40 or $50,000. You know what I mean? So and she messed up, but what Blac Chyna messed up is you're going up against the Kardashians. And instead of asking for, like a million or 2 million, she was asking for like, some crazy, right? She was asking for, like 10 million, or some shit like that. It might have been more, it's a lot, you know what I mean? So that's the Kardashians gonna be like, if it would have been 500,000 or a million, they would have probably just threw that shit out here just to get her out of the way. But 10 million and up, they're gonna be like, now we're gonna just fight this ship forever, because we got the resources to keep taking her to court for an eternity until she runs out of money. You know, it'd be like, but Alright, final question. Before we move on, is this an L or a win for men? Or does this is going to change shit in I mean, in terms of, you know, men being viewed, and women being viewed when it comes to like these domestic situations?

Anthony:

No, I don't change. I think the truth of the matter is it always like, it's weird how we as a society based what we consider to be normal, or the shifting expectations about what happens with celebrities. Like it's strange, like, we don't think about it in like a local level or a state level. It's almost like that. We're like, like I said, the shooting happened in Texas now. We think that's going to cause national reform. Now, you will figure that Sunday will be interactive, no inaccurate right away, nothing's occurred. Even at this time, there's still kind of no restaurant laurels on the shit, just waiting for the fire to die down. It'll take some kind of main event for people to kind of change their mind about things shouldn't change your mind about it at all. I don't think you need if you were pro abortion. I don't think that you know, having people blow up or attack like say abortion clinics. Awesome. Shift your ideas and like your you already know what you are about what you're going to do. Is this going to change anything? No, because in the greater scheme of things, everyone that you name and in your life and just generally in society, shit in a culture, or unimportant outside of Johnny Depp? I mean, you kind of sort of know Blac Chyna, but not really. Before the straw happened, I'm pretty sure not a lot of people within the culture have ever heard of Amber Heard. And everything I'd heard of Blac Chyna. Just like do her good no connection with the Kardashians. So it's not really going to change a shift anything because this doesn't have a monumental impact. Now what they're doing in Congress with maybe repelling Roe versus Wade is a completely different story. That's going to have some kind of no ground shifting kind of thing on which I hope it doesn't come to fruition. But this right here, just another drop in the bucket, just like they do like kind of the Will and Jada thing like, you know, after that happened. I heard a lot of diatribes about, you know, their relationship and so on and so forth. And on a grander scale of what does it mean with black men and black women and protection and understanding and so on so forth? Yeah. But they haven't changed it just suddenly people talk about for now just just another one. I'm thanks.

Jeff:

I real quick before we take a break. So I'm in the Twitter chat group chat. This one is called the barbershop shout out to the barbershop we just talk you know, all things hip hop on them for the most part. And some do posted shit about he showed for producers, right. It was timberland. It was Pharrell. It was Dr. Dre. And it was Who the fuck was the other one who was timberland? Dr. Dre, Pharrell and Kanye and then it said one of them must go so automatically I'm like ah yeah you know I like all of them but skateboard peak ago. You know I'm saying skateboard P can go easily. Yeah, yeah, some dope tracks. He has a lot of dope songs. He has the you know the clip. So whatever. The Neptunes, whoever, but Dre, Kanye and Timberland, they have legendary catalogs, Classic Catalog. And of course, all these young dudes is on. They're shitting on me like, are you crazy skateboard P has more credibility to timberland in the streets. He has more rap more hip. I'm like, yo, we're not talking about the genre don't matter if his hip hop, pop rap. r&b timberland has all of it and he has hits in every category. So I'm asking you, out of those four producers, who would you take out real quick, Kimberly, what I'll get the fuck out is you know you're making me look bad in front of the front of the group chat. I prefer

Anthony:

this type of picking man fuck them. Twitter. People don't give a good goddamn by them. I'm just saying like, hip hop have existed without timberland or that particularly well. I mean, the Virginia thing is this. It's him. It's Missy, and Israel, like that.

Jeff:

Production is for well, better than tech for

Anthony:

you. As a producer. He's not shit.

Jeff:

You can't even name your classic timberland a classic photo album, bro. When you talk about Timberland, we're talking about Bubba sparks. We're talking about Missy Elliott. We're talking about Alia. We're talking about Oh, come on, man.

Anthony:

I know saying okay, you can't be talking about a hysterectomy. Baba. You can't do that. You can't do that.

Jeff:

Alright, let me change the order. Missy Elliott Alia man if I gotta put Alia first Alia Missy Elliott Baba sparks

Anthony:

no input Baba Magoo

Jeff:

and Magoo but but even alright, you don't like Magoo, but even his timberland Magoo albums that he did were like you were dope. You know, I'm saying these all these he got platinum albums with all these artists. And then aside from now, he still got shit with like pop artists. You know, I'm saying with Justin Timberlake and Sierra and whoever the fuck yeah, that's the whole thing

Anthony:

like, like they're, they're neck and neck and it's not a difference. For RO is not a diss against timberland either. I think one of those two have to go and I'm kind of cool with either, like, there's no one that fro has done music with that timberland hasn't done music with and vice versa. Period is like it's like I mean, like, pop stuff,

Jeff:

but name me a classic four row album, bro. I mean, I could name you all kinds of classic Dr. Dre albums, I can name you all kinds of classic Kanye albums. He produced some of the best Jay Z should ever

Anthony:

even tracks that album

Jeff:

albums. Everybody has good tracks. Pharrell has grinding. Okay, cool. He has some dope tracks. What album has he produced? That's a verb. That's a bonafide classic

Anthony:

clip, Lord willing one, okay. That they produce from beginning to end. Okay. Lord willing,

Jeff:

he doesn't have more than timberland.

Anthony:

How many? How many classic albums at timberland fully produced himself.

Jeff:

You have Missy Elliott as the best female artist of all time, correct? Yes. Yes. Who produced her shit, bro. Most of his shit they they both are dead come on

Anthony:

check and check the you got your former now check the credits. He was they were he's just as good at producing as he is. He just don't do all

Jeff:

her into the game, bro. They weren't it together as a mute. This is a this is a moot point, bro. Well, you're taking it back to your point. So you're taking timberland now and you're keeping for ro? N even sounds blasphemous for me to even mention for Rose named next to Kanye and Dr. Dre.

Anthony:

I don't. But that's the whole thing. Like, I mean, let's see. Okay. All right. Let's let's remove Pharrell. Right. Let's take for a lot of squeegee. I'll leave you with Dre. I'll leave you with Kanye. I leave you with timberland. And then I didn't I didn't outline and Suisse. Who goes

Jeff:

I gotta eliminate one.

Anthony:

Yes, no, I

Jeff:

got it easy Swiss. The top three is the top three in any order. Dre Kanye and timberland. That's the top three. And if you want to maybe throw Diddy in there as a producer, he could probably be I would probably put Diddy over timberland. But he wasn't in this discussion.

Anthony:

Did he is not a producer. He's an he's an executive producer. Right? He's saying we should together he's not making the right right. Did he puts the beats put the two together. But he's not like it's Dre greatest did he beat of all

Jeff:

time is Dre Kanye. Timberland and then everybody else. Swiss. Pharrell. Reza. They're all underneath those three to me. I mean, as DJ Premier he's a DJ is he a producer? Do you consider him like a producer producer in the category of those guys because if he is then yeah, then I would put him in the top tier.

Anthony:

I mean, he produces Jeff Let's not I'm not gonna argue that shit. He is but he's DJ Premier. Like he's what kind of one in the same. Like, that's not one of the things that you argue about. But the tricky part is that when You get to that level like, Dre is probably one. Like, I'm not gonna waste too much time with it Dre is probably one. If you don't if, if premiere is gonna see, Is he really a producer? He just happened to be DJ Premier premieres probably to

Jeff:

write probably Kanye three.

Anthony:

Well, I mean, because yeah, Kanye B three. Kanye would be three.

Jeff:

And then I got timberland right after him.

Anthony:

Like, like, it's like Kimberlin that much of a better producing and resume.

Jeff:

He's more diverse. And I'll take all of that into account diversity. You don't I mean,

Anthony:

if the better as a stays in his box, if you're better producing than Diller

Jeff:

I don't know. But he's better than furrow.

Anthony:

D'Amico. dilihat. Did Slum Village Tribe Called Quest common? farside. How many Kang is going to be right there? I'm not going to argue it. Yeah, I mean, like, it's it's tricky, because it's like,

Jeff:

I need you to change your mind, bro. But it's not my reputation in this group chat. I need you to change them. No.

Anthony:

No, you can say like my man disagree, because the tricky part about it is this from the way that you described it, from the way that he described it. I'm going to say you're correct. I am going to say that you should probably keep timberland and remove furrow. I am thank you because of how its framed. If you framed it a different way, I would have removed I would have removed timberland. If you would have said The Neptunes that's different. Their shit for real produce, then there's the Neptunes as the Neptunes, they did a bunch of fucking shit. Even though nobody really know like Chad like that because Chad never really talked for a developer talking right? But that group that the net team did a fuck ton of shit. And when you told them I like Have they ever done anything that uh, classes hell yes. Grind and drama like Assad's stupid thug like Southern hospitality, beautiful path, like a bunch of shit. If you're saying The Neptunes. Yes, but we're saying just for Well, no, it's gonna be timberland. But let's take

Jeff:

a quick break. Shout out to all Patreon or coach or crew. I'm gonna give them a give them a shout out by name this week. I won't do this every week. But Alex so say grant causa, who yet still have to do a vs.

Anthony:

With whenever he ready, man, hurry up. Tosh,

Jeff:

Mikey, she, Simba and Melissa and when we come back, one of our Patreon 's has a conspiracy theory that she is very very adamant about she feels very strongly I'm not gonna say her name. She feels whatever. She feels very strongly.

Anthony:

The fuck apart. I'm going to rip this right the fuck apart.

Jeff:

I'm just gonna say it now before you know just to tease it right. This person believes that Jada Pinkett Smith and her husband of 20 plus years Will Smith had something to do or conspired with the killing of Tupac Shakur,

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Anthony:

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Jeff:

So one of our patrons and we've seen all the memes that, you know, obviously, they're joking that Tupac, you know, faked his own death to get away from Jada was crazy. You know that. We've seen all the memes that Will Smith has always been jealous of Tupac that, you know, he probably got rid of them himself. But this particular individual who happens to be one of our very loyal listeners, and one of our very first patrons of the culture seems to think that Jada and will conspire to kill Tupac. Whether they were in the car, because I've told this person, I'm like, yo, you know, it was a drive by shooting right? In Las Vegas, they pulled up next to his car and just shot it up. This person says, Well, look, man, they either had some to do it, or they paid the people that did it, or they were in the car and did the shit themselves. The point is they wanted to get rid of Tupac. My question is why? I can see why will would want to get rid of Tupac. Because he was so fascinated by Jada that he just wanted to keep her alter her to himself and get rid of the one guy that you know, I mean, that she was in love with. But what incentive does Jada have to get rid of her best friend? Mr. Shikou?

Anthony:

No, I muted myself on purpose because I was gonna laugh before. That's why I unmute myself. 000. So it's maybe a lot of things, Jada may be a lot of things. She might be toxic. She might be encouraged double, for example. Well, this week, they had the right table talk, she came on talking about alopecia. And she came on, she said that, that will increase need to get together and they need to heal. Okay. And I'm thinking like, your husband, he's, you know, like, Christina had shit to do with this, like Chris was going through his own journey, his life during his divorce and everything else going on to that degree. So to think like, Y'all need to get together and heal. I don't know what that means. But you don't need to do that shit. And then it kind of gets to the point like, you're kind of culpable in this. And you haven't said anything? Like nothing? Like, I'm not gonna place blame upon her because that was a choice. We'll made. What you're kind of culpable in this. If he didn't point the finger to toe, you know, we'll sit them still kind of part of this. So for me to say that. No, this is something that she said this week. For her to be like, You know what? I think skill Tupac. Sounds good. See, just saying that out loud. Sounds kind of insane. Because like I said, If this is your best friend and this is the love of your life, why would you want to have of all people him murdered? If it was anything if she was that diabolical and she just doesn't give off that that energy strong word. It will seem way more likely she probably have her husband killed than Tupac. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Jeff:

She's a fucking Queen pin. Yo, she's out here. Demanding hits on people broke. Go Smash. Don't kill Tupac.

Anthony:

It doesn't it doesn't like fit her narrative. Because her narrative is like, you know, I'm never gonna take blame for this shit. Ever. Ever. Like I mean, I I'm not going to say that. That's just a character flaw. I'm just saying that. Most certainly is of all she's been through everything that's been said. The only person that really saying she's going through shit is her. She's talking everything out and about and rounded with a sense of entertainment value. But it's a deeper thing going on were like, the family. The the inability to can't really find a word, but I guess it's hard to say it's like the inability to you know, shut the fuck up.

Jeff:

I was gonna say that, like, if like, I would just wish they would just keep the business private, you know? I mean, because it just makes them look worse. You're

Anthony:

going through things with your wife. Right? Right. Right. But you've kept it in house. You kept it to yourself. No one who needed to know, needed to know, right period. But I mean, I'm not saying it as like to call you. Well, I'm saying I think that all people have any long term relationship or marriage. They go through things. And then they have a select few people that they actually talk to the things about. And generally in the end, it's Partner A has to do with partner B and we got to hash it out. Last I saw wills in India somewhere. She said We're filming a TV show. And Chris is his own toward doing whatever he doesn't like, no. Whatever healing she's asking for is strange to me because the whole thing is like, you might be the one that needs to be due to fucking healing. And the whole thing is to say that you know, this kind of person who's like, who, for what you can kind of get across what's been assumed to be in the air seems to be kind of self centered. To think that they have like kind of guts and guy to go ahead and have Tupac murder. Well, let's let's dissect this shit real quick. I know a patron actually, because it's kind of ridiculous. The point you brought across as a good one, they would have had, the person would have had to shoot Tupac did right then and there to zip down Las Vegas Boulevard, and to dip off somewhere where no one can find them. Now did have money in loan like that? For fun? I don't know. World class professional hitmen not like pop guy right away. He was in the hospital couple days and he passed away. There's an algebra for whole week that he tried to try and save his life and what's my thing is like, come on now. They shot him. And they split off now so it'll be fine. Then that's it. And I'm like, Okay, I see a problem with that part there. I guess the second part is the thing that you brought up like a Vulcan world would it make more sense to kill your husband not to kill the person that you love the most in life? Why would you kill that person? Or why would you are teamed up as a team to kill this one person you ever to, like miserably unhappy together? That makes no sense to me? Why? They don't seem happy now? What do you want to get rid of the person that kind of makes you unhappy and build the person that makes you happiest more than your entire life? Not only

Jeff:

that, at this time, this was this happened in September of 96. By that time, Independence Day had already came out. So Will Smith was already a megastar. Everybody knew who Fresh Prince of Bel Air was the rapper, the comedian, the TV show series personality, and now he was making box office films. At the time, that was like one of the highest grossing films of all time. That movie came out in July of 96. The Tupac show happened two months later. There is no way Will Smith would have gotten away with some shit like that. And I know there wasn't cameras like there is now there's no cell phones like there was now but somebody would have seen his ass in the general vicinity. Getting in and out of a car getting in and out of a hotel from Vegas. You know what I mean? That by now somebody would assess some shit.

Anthony:

Hola. Hola. Hola. Hola. Hola. Timeout Hold on. So this person's theory is that they

Jeff:

did it themselves that that Jada and will has something to do with it.

Anthony:

Like that. Like they was the bank like they paid to shoot at us.

Jeff:

I mean, I don't think either one of them have money like that yet. I mean, like I said, we'll have that box office film, but he wasn't like, as rich as he is now where he could get away with some shit. They were both famous. But he didn't he didn't have odd money. No, I mean, you know, Jada had already did set it off and will have did Independence Day. That was the biggest shit they had done up to that point. But they were still famous. So I would I would I'd be far fetched to think that they'd be able to pull some shit off like that.

Anthony:

Is he famous and she's famous by proxy.

Jeff:

She's famous but she's be she's be level famous. Will is a level famous. He's an A Lister. I would consider Jada a be Lister. Like you know who she is. I would question how many people have seen any of her movies like you know her from set it off and you know her from the clumps part one she was in the nutty professor, part one. When she was Eddie Murphy's date or whatever. That's it. I don't think I've ever seen any

Anthony:

other movies. You know, you remember, even Mindy

Jeff:

Eva Mendes. Yeah, Will Smith introduced her? Because she was in that Miami video and they did a movie together. Right? You

Anthony:

know who her husband is? No idea. Ryan Gosling. Oh, shit. She liked them white boys. All right, but she's still Eva Mendes. She's not known as Ryan Gosling's wife. Jada is more known as Will Smith wife, then

Jeff:

kitty Pinkett and to your point, she's Jada Pinkett Smith. Like how many of these women actually changed their names?

Anthony:

She took on the name she took on the title but like I said, She's, she's more known as the Will Smith's wife than anything that she's kind of done right? Which is no disregard to her because he's done things but nothing is like, I'm gonna see this because of her or I'm interested in anything because she's in it. Like she was in the matrix. Okay, great. Like you

Jeff:

said it was a she was one of the Star Wars shirts.

Anthony:

Now one star wasn't. Yeah, she was, um, it was in the series in the show. Okay, good now. And like I think the fourth week is one of the ones that

Jeff:

I think she's in the shop. But the point is that I'm trying to make is that you got to look for the shit, right? You gotta Google some shit. You gotta like think real hard. When you think of Will Smith, you can run off 10 Will Smith movies right off the top of your head? Yes. And another 10 Will Smith songs right off the top of your head, you know, I mean,

Anthony:

right? So to the degree is a frame differ, right? So to mean to tell me that a person who's becoming an ALA star, and someone who maybe is a below star is going to go ahead and combine together to have enough money to murder, who at that time was to park really was an ALA star?

Jeff:

I would argue that at the time. I would argue that at the time, Tupac was bigger than both of them. Yes, at the time, and we thought had more movies and Will Smith.

Anthony:

Everything that I've been through and everything that was occurring at that time in regards to his movie career in regards to hip hop and so on and so forth. Like, I mean, I mean, just that East Coast West Coast thing at that time.

Jeff:

Matter of fact, I think Tupac had more movies than both of them combined at the time, and more and more albums and Will Smith at the time of his death.

Anthony:

Hack take Tupac the better action Will Smith. Huh. Oh, no. Fight me on it. You will? Will Smith a beggar. You know what it is? It's well,

Jeff:

I'll say that. I agree with you slightly. I'll say that Tupac was a better movie star. I'll say Will Smith is a better action star. Obviously Tupac didn't really do action. He did a lot of dramas and ship and hood movies. Tupac, Tupac is probably more believable in his roles.

Anthony:

Tupac the bad actor. I said dog is a hot topic. It's like okay, it's the Tom Hanks Tom Cruise thing. Tom Hanks is a better actor yeah Tom Cruise the better movie star right like right makes movie right right BS but Tom Hanks better I think let's keep it real. Nothing beats well he'll love me man. Well my daddy don't love me man.

Jeff:

Nobody beats that scene

Anthony:

no Bishop and Jewson cuz it's my fake like, like it's not my favorite part he ever acted in the fact that he killed right. Kill homeboys a bad boy killed homeboy, right? He kills this man he goes to his man's house at the he murders and cold blooded hugged his mother.

Jeff:

That's cold like That's cold. That's cold. A Stone Cold Steve Austin shifts super cold. And he didn't it was believable. He did that shit like but even his role was good and even his role with Janet Jackson was good the poetic justice yeah

Anthony:

poetic justice is good important. It does he was good and above the room. And the small parts he had he was like as the as an actor, like able to emote and do shit like that. It was better I'm not saying he would have had a better movie career and Will Smith I'm not saying that shit. I'm saying is like as an acting talent he was probably better I mean we're not going to know now because I remember he died very very very very young. So having that is what it is. That'd be real fucked up the world's like I'm gonna kill him. I think he's gonna have a better like they're gonna put him in men in black. I can't have this like I gotta get rid of him like no. Beat him up for the part they're

Jeff:

gonna give him the script to Independence Day Two

Anthony:

they're gonna make no no we're with this and pedantry like you know what we should do Independence Day to y'all should make that my fucking my son that felt pity is like make sure he died too.

Jeff:

But but but will you have the same age?

Anthony:

Put some makeup on me he'll be fine don't worry

Jeff:

I so let's answer the Patriots question did to the Jada and will had anything to do with Tupac murder once and for all.

Anthony:

No, stop doing drugs. No, no, it makes no sense. No. Come on. Now. Come on. Stop that. But here's the thing. The person that that stated this point, I want you to come up with a firm rebuttal and just just let one of us know just to see if we go on crazy. What did we miss? Come up with a firmer butter. We will read this live on air without a problem word for word come to the show no issue at all on the show and talk about it. Absolutely. It might antibody scan nobody to go and speak your mind. Like if this is what you truly feel in the heart of hearts that somehow Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith conspired to murder Tupac Shakur, please come on stage case. No problem with that.

Jeff:

Moving on. So the BT awards is coming up and their whole theme is you know, it's for the culture. I will see in the commercial. I'm like, Huh, I wonder if we could get some press passes to show up at this motherfuck but anyway, give me the Misha. So the BT was coming up in a couple of weeks and little NAS X is upset that he's not even nominated for any award and the shit. Okay? Somebody asked him what what have you put out, he was like, Yo, I put out this critically acclaimed album. I put out one of the most successful songs and videos from last year with that a call me by my name shit. And he had another song that was in here, like two singles from the album that we're both hits or whatever. He feels like he should be nominated. And he tried to say that, Oh, he's not dead because he's gay. Right? Which I don't I don't think there's any. There's no warrant to that.

Anthony:

Maybe Are there any other openly homophobic home homosexual people, they're openly homosexual performers that are performing?

Jeff:

I don't know. But it's hard to believe that in 2022, that the BT awards of all, you know, places is going to, and they're all about inclusion and diversity and, you know, the pro black and shit like that, that they're going to leave this person out because of his sexual orientation. That's, that's the, I don't know. But this is what he tweeted. He said, Thank you BT awards and outstanding zero nominations, again, black excellence. And he had Queen Latifah come to his defense, and she just came out recently. I mean, you know, we kind of knew she was kind of gay, or bi or whatever. But she, you know, she had been dating this one chick, and she, she hasn't even really been real

Anthony:

open about it. But as far as you can't say anything about it, right, but she said, Little

Jeff:

knocks and little NAS X is amazing. He should have been nominated. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know what's behind all of that. But inclusion is always the key. That's what we should be striving for. There's enough room in this world for everybody. Yeah. I don't know. I think he's just not nominated. Because they

Anthony:

be if they're not gonna put him up there. But they got Jack Harlow in there. Like, we gotta wait, whoa,

Jeff:

yeah, right. It's BTS. And it's black entertainment. And they got the white boy over him. So yeah, I don't know.

Anthony:

What's the what's the Spanish version of who? A bt was had the BT though. It was like the Latin Grammys,

Jeff:

they got the land Grammys and some other shit.

Anthony:

If you put my blog ads on there, people are gonna be tight. Yeah, but if they're like, you know, what,

Jeff:

if your must watch TV, if you're getting mad ratings, and you're selling hella albums, they might think about putting you up there just to give you I mean, just to

Anthony:

get ratings. That's the tricky part about the culture, though, like, or do you want to honor the people for their accomplishments for the year, we want to acknowledge them for the, like, their popularity, or what they mean to the culture because it's a lot of things meant to the culture, one of the things going on this week, and the tickets with 20 to $25 just bought and fucking go, but they have they got the roots picnic in Philadelphia. Mary, I tend to think Mary performed. They had like the live, I think, black button J DJ day period. They do like a live mixtape every year. And the two RCA one does she was Benny the butcher and regrowth to have Muskego to had g herbo. And a bunch of other artists, right? Right. They all reflect certain aspects of the culture, so on and so forth. You would think that someone like little NAS X, whose extreme popularity will be on something like that, but it's not. I think the thing that it's he's funny to me, and it has nothing to do with sexuality. As I wonder how he sees himself, does he see him himself as something or someone that is a part of the culture or someone that is part of the culture when it kind of benefits him? Because the music and the fan base generally are? Especially his music, it tends more pop than anything else? So many like well, you guys are gonna represent me in the culture like, well, you don't really make shit for the culture. Like when people like, like banging on Nicki, like why like she heard and I get nominee stuff like she became more of a pop artists and like a hip hop, r&b, like, I guess within the culture kind of thing. So the music that he makes doesn't necessarily fit a particular category. It works with the Grammys. It works for the AMA's it might not work for the audience, because the music that you necessarily make doesn't necessarily fit that audience. That's a whole tricky conversation all to himself. I just wonder how he views himself like, is it because I'm black? I'm not being nominated for awards, more specifically for him? Am I not being nominated for these awards? Because I'm gay? Or is it more like what I'm doing in regards to music may have a better fit university but it isn't nearly you know, fit its culture. Well, it's not to be Oh, Michael B. Jordan, Lord Hari broke up, but um, shoot like that,

Jeff:

you know, I mean, they should just have them perform them. I mean, did he perform last year on the fucking awards? But performed well when he was like making our to do it on stage and he did his little song. Like, is that different, like if they asked him to come in and perform but he's not nominated? It will still feel some type of way. Like, I'm sure there's a panel of people like saying, Oh, these are the songs that we think need to be nominated. And he just just got left out, I don't think has nothing to do with him being gay.

Anthony:

I think the thing when he talks about culture itself is that they should make the awards themselves a bit more serious. I think that, you know, when people talk about the BT was the Source Awards, is always like, some negotiate or some violence and win down or something stupid. And I think part of it that if you want, I'm not necessarily saying outside is to take your culture more seriously. Get that take it seriously yourself, like, who are the biggest artists that represent our culture this year, we should put them on. But that's why like you haven't seen like, Jay Z and Beyonce come on in a while, like, they had albums, to eliminate came out and 444 came out, they performed everywhere else. So it would be to watch into your notes to be to like finish.

Jeff:

And to your point, like, yeah, I understand BT supposed to be for the coaches, it was to be Black Entertainment. And I'm sure there's there's people within the organization or within the company that, you know, tries to do what's best for the culture. But at the end of the day, they have all types of board members, or type of investors that they need to answer to, you know, I'm saying and it's probably a roomful of white men, you're gonna meet, to be honest, which is probably a roomful of white millionaires and billionaires that are going to tell them like, Look, the bottom line is we need to get ratings, what's gonna get this program on Sunday night ratings, we're gonna go up against the baseball game, we're gonna go up against the NBA, whatever the case is, we need to get this amount of ratings make it happen. And they're going like, Ah, okay, well, we're gonna have to take little NAS X off, then we're going to have to admit this person, we're going to maybe keep drinking because everybody loves Dre. We got to keep drinking, we got to keep you know, Nicki Minaj. And whatever. You know, I'm saying so what I'm saying is, there's probably people that want to do was write for the coaches. And they probably came to the ultimate conclusion that leaving NASDAQ's owl was best for the coach and for the for the, for the brand, and for the program and for the ratings. And for what I said, because they have all types of shareholders that they got to answer to, just like every other channel,

Anthony:

Billy Eilish said that she wanted to perform in the BT awards, but they allow her they're gonna probably allow her if Olivia Rodrigo said, I want to pull him to BT awards, but they allow her,

Jeff:

they're gonna probably allow her yes.

Anthony:

If you have a space for your biggest stars, to go ahead and perform, based on probably doing and like I said, Okay, do my biggest complaint with the BS he was has been and always will be this, I think you should honor your product as best you can and move forward with it and bring it forward and no, have that'd be a shining moment. As of that time. What I mean is, I don't hear these complaints at like the Country Music Awards. Because it's insulated. This is their thing, they invite their people in, they call it a day. But it's more of a degree, like, I want those people to keep representing us, I want them to like, be there. I want them to actually show up to those awards. I never heard like them kicked out like they there. They're in the building.

Jeff:

They're like a fraternity. And that's always been the knock on us Hispanics, Blacks, is like, instead of coming together like some other communities, do, we spend a lot of energy and time fighting each other, you know what I mean?

Anthony:

And you don't have to like it, just like this little NASDAQ thing is a fight. And the thing is like, it would just require a phone call, like, you're one of the biggest artists last year, you should be here. Inclusion is important. If we create a slot for you, would that be fine? Or like could the nominations or the nomination we're not gonna slot you, right? But if you want to feel like you want to be a part of coaching you want to perform? You want to have a set there? Would that be okay? And they would have probably, if he would have said fuck off. I tried them. And I tried. That's the whole I try, though. I can do with a guy like him. So I can do in situation like this. Because the mistake has already been made, you're trying to do your best to rectify, if they don't feel that the answer is good enough for it to solve their problem then. So be it. But just one of them things like I said, I mean, he brings it up. But I mean, you were nominated for Grammy your name nominee for AMA. You did your performance there. People loved it, so on so forth. I'm not certain what other sauce you can bring to the table. Because I don't like you're not a singer. You're not a really good rapper. You haven't be a good entertainer. And these categories are real specific. And I'm not saying it doesn't fit you but I mean, you got your laurels in regards to something much more you want these people to do in your little NAS X. I mean, you're gonna be hurting for money anytime soon learn to keep performing and doing whatever you got to do for these people. But it's Lewis Franco here is not none made about it. You shouldn't you shouldn't speak out against it. I mean, I still think that somebody's taken private. It's like, ask why but you want to bring it out to your fans and get cracking so who cares?

Jeff:

Finally, the game is still running his mouth. So this time he said he said that 50 cent paid him $1 million to stop saying Gu not remember when he was going through a beef he would always say GG GG you would not like every song. I don't know, I don't I don't know how true how much truth there is to that story. But when he was asked about number of recently, he said that, that kind that Kanye has done more for him in his whole career than Dr. Dre. So he responded to that by saying when I said Kanye West did more for me in two weeks, more than Dr. Dre did for me my whole career. I mean, Kanye gave me a billionaire Mindset by just being around him. He gave me financial literacy. Dre never did that. But even Snoop said that Dr. Dre is not good at teaching you shit. Dr. Dre is good at getting the best out of you taking your talents, you know, I'm saying and maximizing it and putting it out like that. You his you know, I'm saying that's his skill. There's other people that might be better at teaching you shit teaching you how to become a billionaire. That's not Dre, Dre is not gonna teach you how to become a billionaire. He could use you to become a billionaire and make you rich in the process as well. I don't know. I just feel like game is biting the hand that feeds him or that Fetterman?

Anthony:

I get to see here's the thing. Congratulations to LeBron James, by becoming the first active NBA player to be certified as a billionaire. Millionaires, rarefied air 10 millionaires, very, very rarefied air. Harvard millionaire, the air super, super, super, super thin up there. Billionaire. You're in space. I'm not sure what everyone has his grand designed to be a billionaire where there's only so many of them in the world. And the thing about Kanye is that I'm not certain what he taught you to be, like, what? What game he could have taught you in two weeks and make you be a billionaire. One of the things that that helps people become billionaires is to not damage certain relationships with certain people, which is exactly what you're doing. Like, like Kanye alludes to discussion before about producing one of the greatest producers ever. But that's not where he gets his money from. It's from endorsement deals and designs, and his shoes and easy's and so on so forth. He found different avenues to branch out to him to make this money. Same thing with Drake, Drake great shoes all the time majority was money came from that beats, we'll see how it goes. So I'm not certain what what game has cooking in the pipeline or whatever is going to come up with that's going to make them reach that upper echelon status. I hope it's not no t shirts, or No sneakers, or hats or shit like that. The game just don't work that way. Michael became a billionaire not because when he played basketball because we hit him having control over the Jordan brand. And I deal with Nike for so long that it's not what you do. That makes you that kind of rich, it's the thing that you use your famous success and celebrity to build off to make more. I'm not certain what games don't like said he tried to tap dancer shit back with drink because you don't want to burn that relationship. eventually gonna, you're gonna tap mentorship back with them because you want to burn that relationship. Again, Emma's rich, not necessarily because of the music, but for everything that he's done outside of it, which only enhances wealth. Games a really good rapper. Am I gonna say he's great? No, because I'd be lying to you. I don't think he's great. I think he's a very good, very consistent rapper. But this thing with Dre, and this thing about praising Kanye and like I said, you wouldn't really been in continuous presence of content putting in some random bursts while he's like still fantasize about killing his you know soon to be ex wives new man. I'm not certain where he's going with this. It's just weird that you know the say that the man who burped at your career and gave you probably your own the classic album, you're trying to say he never did anything for you like that wasn't his job. His job was to teach you how to get rich Dre didn't know how to get rid of Dre had to give up everything he had to have to get off death row to go to aftermath would be pretty much without his masters like he doesn't know what I'm trying to get to give all of that shit up. Just to get out from underneath that like it shows you know resilience. It shows creativity versatility. Things I'm hoping game is going to be you know capable of but to be shitting on Dre like that for no good reason. And you know shitting on him like that for no good reason. Just par for the course for himself is whatever.

Jeff:

But yo next week, we're going to have a dope underground rapper goes by the name of I am God. Check that shit out. And in the words of Henry Ward Beecher, we should not judge people by their peak of excellence but by the distance they have traveled from the point where they started. The culture you

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Only God can judge me (That right?) Only God can judge me now Nobody else (Nobody else) All you other motherfuckers get out my business (Really) Only God can

judge me now [Verse 1:

2Pac] Perhaps I was blind to the facts, stabbed in the back I couldn't trust my own homies, just a bunch of dirty rats Will I succeed? Paranoid from the weed And hocus pocus, try to focus, but I can't see And in my mind I'm a blind man doin' time Look to my future, ‘cause my past is all behind me Is it a crime to fight for what is mine? Everybody's dyin', tell me what's the use in tryin' I've been trapped since birth, cautious ‘cause I'm cursed And fantasies of my family in a hearse And they say it's the White man I should fear But it's my own kind doin' all the killin' here I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side Jealousy inside, make 'em wish I died Oh my Lord, tell me what I'm livin' for Everybody's droppin', got me knockin' on Heaven's door And all my memories of seein' brothers bleed And everybody grieves, but still nobody sees Recollect your thoughts, don't get caught up in the mix ‘Cause the media is full of dirty tricks [Chorus: 2Pac] Only God can judge me Only God can judge me, only God Only God can judge me Only God can judge me Only God can judge me, only God Only God can judge me now Only God can judge me, only God Only God can judge me Only God can judge me, only God Only God can judge me