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Sept. 26, 2022

Nia Long

Nia Long

In the wake of the NBA's Ime Udoka affair and suspension situation, the boys talk about Udoka dropping the bag.  Why did he cheat with the teams travel planner? Jeff asks, "why is Nia Long wasting her time with Ime Udoka"? and Ant suggests, "don't sleep with the help".

Topics Discussed:

  • Celtics coach Ime Udoka suspended for a year 
  • Meghan Peace becomes the first Black woman puppeteer on Sesame Street
  • LL Cool J's comments on DJ Akademiks and the culture's pioneers
  • Math Hoffa
  • Men cheat down while women cheat up

Referenced Links:
Ime Udoka Affair Was with Team Travel Planner, Organized Nia Long's Travel Too (tmz.com)

Meet Sesame Street's first Black female puppeteer - Megan Piphus Peace - The Washington Post

Tribe ERA Worldwide™ on Twitter: "This message goes to the DJ akademiks of the world. https://t.co/lLzGAD3BT3" / Twitter

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Transcript
Anthony:

Sitting no one likes you because no one loves like you smiling. Because no one likes you. And no one loves you. Like yes they do. No they don't. None of them love you. Not a single soul. And

Jeff:

well welcome to another episode of the culture. And what

Anthony:

and I thought a drip you got the child that was nice good look for the Jordans. Yeah, I got I got I got to make up the shipping title baby Jordans. But you're just getting on time and shipping times as well. I'm like, yeah, we'd like to pay extra to get the shutdown time. Like I'm mad. Like, I don't even know what's the baby shower? Do you really need to show to sit in front of everybody ever list? Anybody gonna have it on time? But it's a first child, man. Congratulations.

Jeff:

I always wonder why they would always like the baby shoes would always look cooler and doper than the regular in the bigger sizes, I wonder was because it was they're easier to make, I don't know. They use less fabric, less material,

Anthony:

less fabric and just smaller because like in small you can see like the it's all there. Like what a big shoe you got to rotate it around or whatever. It's like it's in your hand. Right? It's fine. The bigger the shoe the uglier gets, like the smaller the shooter better looks for some reason. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, it's hate, like, like, like women with little feet. Like one of my aunts has like, she's short. But she has small feet. So therefore like when she shops she doesn't shop at like the women's section. She just shop with the kids section. And I shouldn't be cheating. I'd be fine. Like I hate that. Are they? Are they gonna be the first one are you gonna get those little? Those hard bottom white shoes? Like they haven't bronze or whatever?

Jeff:

What do you mean? Like you don't know. No, no, not

Anthony:

at Nike Jones. You know, we like first that baby had the first pair of baby shoes and sometimes, like it's like little small white ones with the hard butter. And sometimes we haven't and I know some people like bronze the shoes like the hold on forever. I wonder what they're gonna do with them.

Jeff:

Got possession in the rearview mirrors ornament. You have a cop might pull you over, get pulled over for obstruction of vision and nobody Jordans be

Anthony:

my baby. Like, I don't care, man. Here's this ticket. You have a good day on the ticket is gonna say baby Jordan on the rear view that they're gonna write a ticket to congratulate your firstborn and give you the fucking ticket. See you in court.

Jeff:

Cops be the worst man shout out to our patrons. Alex so say the black king Kaiser the third. We still haven't figured out who the first and the second.

Anthony:

Alright, we're gonna change this. Actually, I'm

Jeff:

lying. Actually, I'm lying. Because he did. He did give me a history lesson on to who those were. Okay. So here we go. He says King Kaiser was a master tech in the 15th century. He helped build whole houses for the unworthy and pimp them out for the greater cause. That's good to know.

Anthony:

So, the home of prostitution Well, I mean, yes, everybody can have pride in something so okay. Don't Don't make up some other history. Don't turn about a sheet all the time. Like, alright, man. Leave it at that. I have a trip and saying the wrong thing. Amen. Holmes, I'm not against prostitution. It was a worthy trade. People pay for that. They get money good for them. If you have some kind of history with it, I mean, I wouldn't. Did he break that down to a woman like the meaning of it? I hope not. Because she's like, nah. Hey, baby, let

Jeff:

me tell you why I'm the king. Cause

Anthony:

I sit down for this debate in this whole shit. I'm telling you.

Jeff:

It's fun. Then King Kaiser The second was a legendary soldier of the 18th century who fell in the art of war

Anthony:

and the power of war. Okay. Sounds like some made up bullshit to me, but cool. We're gonna roll with it. I'm gonna just take it as fact. I'm gonna roll with it for now. For now. We're gonna see a

Jeff:

shout out to Tosh.

Anthony:

Hey buddy, how are you?

Jeff:

Shout out to Melly Mel.

Anthony:

Mel, make good choices.

Jeff:

Shout out to Simba. The Lion King

Anthony:

you already know my feelings. Let's move forward.

Jeff:

I am your father. A Lion King. Speaking of I am your father. James Earl Jones gave up the rights to his voice now for Darth Vader. So he's no longer gonna voice Darth Vader voicing him for like 40 years or whatever thank

Anthony:

God and I read about it. I think it's a smart woman because you know it's a it's an iconic voice and I think he's 91 Is he yeah

Jeff:

yeah but with today's technology bro you could just record his voice and just for the rest of time just use his voice bro the artificially insert his voice as the character forever and why the fuck not?

Anthony:

That's why he's gonna record it different ways different like different words or anything else like that in his voice. So if they want to use dark me in the future and Star Wars are definitely going to that. They'll have the ability to do so because you can't have it once it's gone. No one else can has that voice up is Brady to him now smart him to do I guess you'd love to franchise so much. It's a good idea.

Jeff:

Like there's three characters that has to be played and voiced by James Jones automatically. There's no question Vader, Darth Vader, King Joffrey jofa, ruler of the moon and Mufasa

Anthony:

Well, the thing about Kim Jaffe Joe first like, you actually need him to be like, alive. Right? Like if you like if you

Jeff:

but even if he's dead, because you know, they make more movies. You know, the flashbacks. There's always flashbacks or whatever you could have, you know, Eddie Murphy thinking about his dad telling him something, and it'd be James Earl Jones's voice

Anthony:

like 20 to 27 year old King Jaffe, Joe, he's like James Earl Jones. It'd be funny though, but it just sounds ridiculous. Like yeah, come on, man.

Jeff:

I mean, your voice doesn't change as your voice grow when you're 20 When you're 30 When you're 40 As your voice you do

Anthony:

have the same voice at 20

Jeff:

I think so. Paulina what I was going through puberty but from 20 and up you have your voice Yeah,

Anthony:

we got to find that footage she might it might be a headline that everybody will change a little bit there but I found look crazy and it kind of go comes and goes but the hard part is like with him is is instead the voice is iconic like it's one of the voices that when you hear it you know it's him Eddie Murphy doesn't have the kind of voice because he plays so many different characters so on so forth, but with James Earl Jones it's like that's James are drunk like you know, so I get the whole thing of him doing that like I wouldn't expect anything different man. It's a bright idea in his part he's 90 he's 90 years old. Go for it man. I appreciate it. It's a dope way to keep them alive and yet

Jeff:

shout out last but not least Mikey she congrats on his new baby was not born yet but

Anthony:

it's on the way got a shower next week.

Jeff:

Got the shower. And a captain the little baby Jordans. Which is a tough

Anthony:

you a baby? I mean, cuz you don't know how they're gonna go for the rest of your life. At least you got to start off with the fire drip first because like it's cheap. The drip should be fire when your child because it's cheap. Now to get older that's way more expensive like let's listen to shit a little bit. Right now you baby live a little bit

Jeff:

but that's how it is babies wardrobes in their attire goes from being like super dope and super slick and and dripping and then the older they get that she gets bumpy or bumpy this way of life go like you see baby pictures. They're all suited up. They got bow ties they got Jordans they got this they got daddy the dope is fly as shit. As they get older like you said as she gets you know more expensive they don't want to wear certain shit.

Anthony:

I want to know who's gonna come to the baby shower when the Burberry drip. There's always somebody come to somebody's baby shower when Burberry I don't know why. Like they think that's just fine, but I really want to know and be cute.

Jeff:

But I managed to get the show rolling whenever we talk about this week one. Oh linbro Lim roll.

Anthony:

You want to talk about this Ime Udoka, shit?

Jeff:

The Celtics coach former coach knows he's gonna probably get fired now.

Anthony:

I don't know yet. I don't know. Fired.

Jeff:

Ime Udoka, well he's suspended. I don't know if he can coach again. That's a questionable thing. But that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm calling him the former coach. He's suspended for one year. Correct. First of all, I don't know. I mean, the the shit is we don't really know the whole story. That's the thing. Right now all we know is that he got suspended for one year for having an inappropriate quote unquote, inappropriate relationship with a staffer, a team staffer, which quote unquote, breaches the code of conduct that the team has in place. We've heard about worship. Isaiah Thomas was fucking all types of people when he was with the Knicks. You know, he was the general manager with the Knicks. He was the president and the GM and coach and everything of the Knicks and he was doing all types of shit he didn't get, you know, I don't remember him getting fined or suspended or fired. It was like whatever the team does, you know, throws it under the rug like Anna Anna see here. We don't know the full story about I'm where your Docu, Matt Barnes made a video online and he posted in he said that, you know, they told him the true story. He said he won't reveal it because it's not his place. But he said that is deeper than what we all know. He said it goes real deep and is more serious than what we know. So what the fuck did he raped us? This young lady. That's the only thing I can think of like what warrants being suspended, fired, fined or anything just for having a sexual relationship just for having you know, an affair with somebody like you know, as your personal life that should have nothing to do with your professional life. I get it. It's in the workplace, you know, code of conduct, whatever, whatever is frowned upon.

Anthony:

That means that man did something. I don't know. That's,

Jeff:

that's what I'm saying.

Anthony:

But what I'm saying.

Jeff:

And the thing they're saying is he had the affair with the Travel Planner, the team's Travel Planner, and out of this whole shit. You know what the worst shit to me is that this motherfucker not only has a baby, but he's engaged to fucking Nia Long. Nia Long is a national treasure. Who does this? And I get it nobody's above we've had this conversation nobody is above getting cheated on. Nobody's above it I get that shit but Yo, you got Nia Long and you're engaged to Nia fucking long, Nia Long is Nia long from Friday? She's like one of our first crushes ever and Nia, it's Nia long bro Nia fucking long. First of all what is Nia Long doing with this fucking clown anyway? Out of all the men she can be with? Why is she with this fucking guy?

Anthony:

You're trying to unpack a lot here, man.

Jeff:

This is actually making him more famous than what he knows. I can guarantee you the majority of the country that had no idea who Ime Udoka was until this fiasco took place.

Anthony:

I would think the reverse I don't think most a fair amount of the country didn't know who Nia Long was.

Jeff:

No, no, you're out of your fucking mind. I guarantee you we could do a poll, bro. I guarantee you more people in the country know who Nia long is from watching our movies. Then Ime UDoka only people from Boston know who dhoka is sports fans. If two weeks ago, you would have asked me what's the name of the Celtics? Coach, I would have been like I'm some African

Anthony:

brother. I would have told you because I'm a sports fan. Like

Jeff:

shit. I'm what you dhoka Can you even spell that shit?

Anthony:

I am e Ud. Okay. Okay,

Jeff:

can you have spelled it two weeks ago?

Anthony:

Yeah. I'm gonna spell it. No, don't

Jeff:

lie, man.

Anthony:

I'm a doctor. Yeah, I me you D Okay. Yeah, they misspelled it. We could go two weeks ago, two months ago, I said to do was just

Jeff:

make him famous. I can guarantee you more of the country knows nia Long than this fucking guy. I think you'd make and then he cheats on her with the planning training to get this. The planning. The Travel Planner is also was also in charge of planning Nia long travels. She planned her travels to Boston to come see the games back and forth. Whatever, whatever. She was helping her organize a move she was getting ready to move to Boston with their son right? In this fucking lady was helping her do that job while sleeping with her fiance behind her back mate does some crazy shit,

Anthony:

man Come on, man, you know people who that was cheating on people that was like, close to them. Like, not even travel planet but like someone's man's and it was someone's girl like it happens. Now the thing about near Long. I think the thing is that we think about it and aspects near fucking long. Except for it's Halle Berry is Kim Kardashian. And nobody above that. And nobody is JLo. And nobody above it. I'm sorry. Like, like beauty does not does not equate to loyalty. It just doesn't work that way to find the most beautiful person in the world. And they can have the ugliest attitude. And I'm not saying that that is a fair assessment. I'm just saying from what I've seen. I've seen extremely attractive people lean on that attractiveness. Because they know people love beautiful things. In this app, a complete fucking asshole. They just They're beautiful outside, but they're ugly as fuck inside. And when ugliness comes out. Some people just stick around with it because like I fuck they bad. I mean, that's male and female. But on the other side is whatever. Yeah, you ever wonder like y'all see like the big salad broth. Motherfuckers. It always was somebody bad. But it always was somebody bad. But it's never the same one. It's always in rotation. There's never one. They got this chick that time to sit down time this one Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, that one Saturday, Sunday, Monday. We don't talk about it. And we don't care. Because we're guys. Same thing has Whitney alone. And I'm gonna send it to you as a bad person. As a matter of fact, I feel for her more than anything else. This is a situation where she has nothing to do with this. And she's dragged into this and people like, give it up their heartfelt apologies, and so on and so forth. And like, Let's protect me like, she didn't want any of this in the first place. She was in love with that man. She was moving to Boston to build their family there with him. The fault directly, absolutely. 100% falls on. I made a dog. It's like it's not even hard. The problem that we run into is like, it's always my issue like the deification of celebrity like, you know, it's knee along like, she's just a woman like anybody who happens to be an actress. Sure, but she's still a woman that she needs to be loved and protected and cared for and everything else like that. And he failed that the test he did not handle the assignment. The thing I worry about with him is like, what did you do that will cause a year suspension and the possibility that you might not ever coach again. And that's even Matt Brown. harnesses like, I had to back bro. I heard some other shit and I'm like nah son you know how hard is to use the knickers loyalty de load to anything? Like if you if you gave a man a choice between especially when you're in a fraternity like that if you give a man a choice between his favorite sports team his woman he could like I can always get another girl I can always get another girl but the Yankees are forever the Mets are forever The Braves they will choose their sport teams over their woman trust me. So for him to be like nah, even like once you hear like oh, I need to know the details and once you have the details like god damn that's worse than I thought it would be. That's the back he's in. Now. You say that? Like the thing that you said before about me alone? You're saying that she is more popular than him? Can you name it? I think so. You name it the last thing she wasn't

Jeff:

oh shit Nope. I want to say she was in some series but I don't even remember now.

Anthony:

Right and like if the taking the time of it is like she's she's an actress but she's one she's like she the actress and a memory of our minds. function of our youth and a photo of us growing up. She was a big part of it. What you said Friday Friday is pretty much the main thing but the big momma's house mom's house the best man What's the ice cube I heard the kids are we there yeah yeah, I think like that but I mean it's been a while it's not no knock against her more than anything else like this are you still remember her as an actress but I think

Jeff:

she's also she's she's she's in the boys and when she was young number was like Cuba Gooding Jr she's the girlfriend whatever

Anthony:

seminal moments of your youth similar moments of you growing up she was a part of that so she got to be stuck like that. And this is no disregard to her as an actress because like it came out with the best man she's going to be the best man the new one that's coming out I think in December for my dad

Jeff:

so in the last thing she did was black as fuck, I think is the name of the ship

Anthony:

it's a great title. So I think when I look at the situation, I guess just kind of how my mind works I look at her more like the person more than like the actress. I just feel I feel a bit hurt for her as a person like I feel for because from what is being described, there's nothing that can like describe the kind of frustration and pain she must feel. Not in a sense that you know, I don't know the ins and outs of their relationship I don't care like I don't I didn't do that with them. I didn't do that Will and Jada like look y'all gonna be which are gonna be out kind of don't care I'm just talking about because we have a podcast but for her like say you sacrifice and everything kind of no put your family together in one place and everything else to that degree. I don't know if he was happy or unhappy but I don't think it's nicely the incident because that won't get you a year I think this went on for a while that will get you here and I think it's who he gets had this affair with and how it went down and I'm guessing likes it has to be 1000 times worse because I think a year will probably be only what they could give him because of maybe like the statutes and guidelines of the decision making I'm pretty sure if they could fire him they probably would have but didn't have a grounds basis to do so. Like infidelity isn't can't have a moral clauses and shit like that. If that was true there will be no NBA games played all my focus on loyal so for this to happen like I like I kind of want to know the rest just for morbid curiosity but I kind of don't I want this to kind of fade away and let them go through the healing process to do whatever they got to do with a family because it'll leak it'll definitely leak we'll find out soon enough everybody fucking snitches man, man fuck that.

Jeff:

Check it up. I did a poll I did a poll on Twitter remind me later so could check it I put who's more famous Nia Long or Ime Udoka so we're gonna find out later. But Ime Udoka released a statement and it was the only statement that's ever been released so far in this and he goes I want to apologize to our players fans, the entire Celtics organization and my family for letting them down.

Anthony:

Stop Stop, stop Oh, stop the job family first.

Jeff:

I want my family. Then the organization fuck that team. Well, in this quote family was very last was last on the list. He goes I am sorry for putting the team in this difficult situation. And I accept the team's decision. Out of respect for everyone involved. No further comments.

Anthony:

I accept things like you've got a fucking choice. Joe Missoula,

Jeff:

who has been an assistant with the Celtics since 2019. Will be the interim head coach this season.

Anthony:

I'd set the team decision motherfucking you don't have no choice. You got them choice like you said and said No, I'm not taking the suspension like you wouldn't lose your job motherfucker. When we leave leave all the shit out. You will never be bagging groceries. Let's see if your wife love you then. No, looky here, take this year to your policy shut the fuck up and go on. I think that's the best thing for them for now it's going to pop up and they're going to pop up during the season depending on how if the Celtics do well they won't even think about it. If Joe fucks up they can be like well how would it seem to play if if I made it there? That's what's going to happen so hopefully the Celtics win they get the shirt off his back but you think you think the relationship is

Jeff:

between the long Fuck yeah, that thing will make if it's somebody that you don't know I think there's always room for forgiveness. But I think it makes it very hard for the woman to forgive if you cheat with somebody that she actually knows you know him saying that you had her around her you had around your family around your kids is I think is way harder to forgive that shit.

Anthony:

Women way more forgiving than dudes

Jeff:

they are but just like I said it fit somebody like it's like you know don't see don't tell or whatever this is the saying is like What's the fucking phrase I'm looking for? Like you know don't hurt if you don't know if you don't see but if it's somebody you know, like I noticed female you still have to work together like you know this bitch I had this bitch in my house type of shit. affect this bitch. You know, whatever the case may be. I think it makes it way more different.

Anthony:

Women are forget, like, I cheated before. And I wasn't some shit. And it took me aback and I'm happy for it. But I'm like, if it was reversed, do lose a fuck dudes losing mine if they see a text from a dude that they don't recognize. They were Who the fuck is this? Who is this Nick? Like, bro? Like, that's my cousin like, Oh, all right, my bad. We flipped as my gay cousin. Men flip the fuck out. We lose our whole shit. Oh, the most basic things. Women take it and take it and take it and take it and at the end of all of that. Take us back and he's my fuck still ungrateful. I'm just gonna take you back for this shit. Let's go into phase two. You ain't got to do all that but but this here? The girl put the infinity gauntlet on like, phase three. gross shit about all this is how fucked up deuces. The first thing that happened after the Chefman man no longer in the market. Like, go come on, man. Like, you're like oh, that's what people do that that's nasty talk to me. Like you ain't got to do that. Like she didn't want you then she definitely gonna want you now. The first thing do like, Oh, she's single. And like some some random dude from Philly going like Price Center like an inbox. I'm like, a man to see and how you doing? Like showing? No, nobody from nobody in the world, man. That's the gross and I fucking hate when people do that. They don't want you. She's not in the market. She's not a market for us. So it would not surprise me to work things out with her husband. Well, her fiance

Jeff:

it's near fucking long. Oh, by the way, right now so far in the poll 100% Vote for near law me votes. So tools have been in three actually.

Anthony:

So if Republican votes is that we got, we got time. But my whole thing is that I'm not gonna trip out about like, the whole thing with this situation. Because that's their family, they got to figure that out. And she'd been with him for a very long time. And whatever it is, whatever caused him to go astray. That's some shit. I don't know if they can work out, I hope that they can work out because they have a family. And like I said, she's willing to sacrifice her career to, for us to be together in this place where I don't know if she's interested or not. But you the only reason she's there is for him. And that's a big, that's a big, big, big fucking deal. The only reason I am in this part of the world is because you are here. You are my world. And I want to be with you. And the fact that you know, this occurred. I don't know if then I hope it's not because I just believe in love. I believe that it can overcome all but it depends on the level of function this man is doing. Now the team knows. I don't know if he admitted that to her. I wonder if he did if he did. And if he's bad as the Celtics It is, yeah, this shit is going to be over. But if it's just one of the things, but it's kind of an ongoing affair. I could see maybe, I mean, it's not a great chance to maybe at 100 Maybe 10% chance that maybe go to counseling and you know, find faith and within each other and work from truth or maybe you could do it but is this probably over? Yeah, I don't want it to be like I said, I believe in love. I don't want it to be but we don't see don't it? Lesson number one for all famous people don't fuck to help this always get jammed up. That's how Bill Clinton got jammed up. He could have built and could have up to Congress wouldn't have been fired. Because we forgot to help. Like say they round shit go sideways. Don't ever do it that you ever notice. Okay? Because I had the conversation at work. The main difference between men and women is this especially when it comes to cheating. Women have a tendency to fuck up. Men have a tendency to fuck down. What that means is that I guarantee the woman that like Let's say you cheat the woman, the man that your woman cheats with is going to be far better than you. But the woman you cheat on your wife which is probably not bad anyway for your girl, because that's just how men are we were stupid we're basically like dogs with a soul surely would we always FUCK DOWN we'd never fuck up we always about women women 100% fuckup the next dude it's gonna be up to you is going to be superior to you you're gonna hit all the fucking things together and that's how the ship goes

Jeff:

yeah, we definitely fuck up while we're fucking down.

Anthony:

Absolutely we're good to ship we be like all we have are funds to basically give them the right amount of tension and in a wrong place when things are going right with our partner but it's really like the kind of realization like fuck I shouldn't be doing this but you still in there like no good but like she does not she's not the caliber of the person that I'm currently with. But once this should come to light you got these things you got to deal with and hopefully you get strong enough you kind of work through it. Women don't have that issue. When when they when you're going for do trust me, I guarantee you his salary is better. His body's better his car is better his life is probably slightly better. It's something different from the bullshit she got what she that's why she cheated where she stayed No, because I think I think love overclocker row like like the reason why she loves you isn't because of any of that. It's something deeper. It's something more of a soul tie than anything else. But that ship until I find a difference otherwise, I'm telling you men always fall down women always fuck up. So trust me if this is Whitney alone, she's gonna find somebody better than the fucking NBA coach. I guarantee you that

Jeff:

i Let's go to some more positive.

Anthony:

That was positive we talked to I feel this motherfucker.

Jeff:

Megan peace made history as the first black woman puppeteer on Sesame Street. In an interview with the Washington Post, the 29 year old said she has been a longtime lover of puppets ever since she began watching Sesame Street as a toddler. Who the fuck remembers what they was watching when there was a toddler? A good person, she eventually learn how to do puppets. She eventually learned how to do ventriloquism performing as a puppeteer while working a day job in real estate development. And 2021 She became a cast member for the show maneuvering and voicing the character Gabe rial, which I think is probably the first colored puppet on the show. more diverse,

Anthony:

so I could they're all in color. My bad. I know what you mean. Sorry, my mom.

Jeff:

She's not green, or yellow, or black or brown mine. She's an actual black coffee like a black, I got cultured character,

Anthony:

sorry, I don't watch Sesame Street, walking bass. at all in color, I got I got

Jeff:

more diversity we have the more display of the possible opportunities we have for the next generation. Being the first black female puppeteer on the show means opening doors for future performers and persons of color anywhere in the television and entertainment space. Big ups to Megan peace, you

Anthony:

know why celebrate shit like this. Because after all this time, it's a shame. But it's empowering that we're still at the point of doing first. Like first this first that like it because it's always been other people. Like so when it's like it seems something small a minute, but it's a big thing. Because I mean, bins contract for 400 years. And these, we still give them the first of this. And first of that a lot of jobs positions, things like whatever. So it's important to be celebrated. I know that other people might find it dumb, but there might be someone who's a puppeteer, who may be a young person to call it that might be interesting to them. And maybe they could be the first of that. So I mean, that's congratulations to her. That's a great thing.

Jeff:

Yeah, and you know, and then Sesame Street's defense, like, how many people you know how many black people you know, you know, walk around with puppets, you know, I'm saying that that original request was that are puppeteers that are not probably not many to be fair, that are not mentally ill, right.

Anthony:

I mean, like, like, if you see somebody walk around a puppet listening, Craig's, like, if if he was walking around the streets of New Jersey, and you see some guy walking down the street with a puppet, and you're like, This man has a job, but this man might be a little off. So it's it, but my thing is that it's a career. I mean, there's, there's an audience for a limited one, but there's an audience for it, whether it's like on Sesame Street, or other shows, or plays or something else to that degree, but I think the fact that she's alone is really fucking awesome.

Jeff:

I can't publish it. So I'm saying that there's probably not there's probably never been a lot of opportunities to hire a black puppeteer. You know, there's probably not a lot of them to

Anthony:

be it's a it's a very small niche market. Let's put it that way. So yeah,

Jeff:

but it's an accomplishment. You're the first pick up the hook. Let me check out mine. You're long pole if you don't mind. Go ahead, man. It's still 100% For near law. I'm trying to tell you bro unless you're a diehard sports fan, or unless you're from Boston or Celtics fan not many people are going to know who this guy is right now we're gonna be five votes so far and has offered me a lot

Anthony:

I wouldn't say is right and wrong I like you're probably right but like say it's a particular audience. And knowing you and your algorithm on threat on Twitter is pregnant but people of color I guess, you know, white people. What does that mean? You go on Twitter.

Jeff:

So Twitter has your algorithm both colored to right knee along is black. I did I'm way adult who is black right. But for for peace. So what does the demographic because and the demographic on my Twitter is gonna be people that come sports fans and people. Yeah,

Anthony:

no sports fans gonna be Knicks fans. They know who he is. They come like fuck him. I'm a Knicks fan. No, I don't know he is you know what? I don't know who he is. Because he's a spin that you don't exist right now. I don't know him for a year. I'm like I'm in how you dropped the bag like this man. Like it's it's definitely a long thing but come on man. Y'all seem happy together y'all was y'all was chilling. I was kicking it. She was watching when you want to coach you struggling us assistant coach for the Spurs and shit. Imagine Me alone living in fucking San Antonio. That don't seem fun to hear that you want to go to Boston? For you?

Jeff:

She one of the most racist cities in the world well

Anthony:

funded begging to help. Help My lord, what have been gone where were we going to society? When one of the most successful coaches in the NBA a person of color the first one with the first black NBA coach to be the coach the NBA Finals? Was it some some some shit like

Jeff:

that? No, no, no, no, he wasn't no it wasn't because Doc Rivers Thank you.

Anthony:

But you're the black man and find is only been so many black coats on to for the hailing you think you're doing great, you got a good young team. And this whole time you're going to help. Vegas

Jeff:

LL Cool J went on IG live to explain a few things about the importance of honoring the pioneers who laid the foundation for hip hop culture. And this is a topic that I'm very passionate about. Because I hear you know, I've told you about this shit. He's done motherfuckers I hear him online on Twitter, this and that. And it's like, they just don't give a shit or respect. The people that came before them. You know, I'm saying like anything that existed before them is irrelevant. And I've never understood the issue with these young Gen Z motherfuckers. I just don't. So local j goes, it came to my attention that and this is this is all about the DJ academic shit, right? It came to my attention that a DJ said that a lot of the pioneers in hip hop are dusty. And asked How could they be the people that invented Hip Hop if they don't present like they have a lot of money, which is a flawed mentality. Okay. Anyway, he then explained that the pioneers of hip hop specifically the first generation created something where there was once nothing at all. And then he quotes a quote, don't think because someone failed to get money that they didn't make a contribution to the culture. No one discusses Miles Davis his bank account or John Coltrane or even rock and country musicians fact. lol then rejected the idea that possessing wealth equates to value in hip hop culture. It's a bad idea and a misinformed way of looking at the world and the culture. When Hip Hop first started, there were no accountants or record companies who believed in it. Nobody believed in it. How can you make a five or 10 year plan out of something that doesn't even exist yet? Okay. Preach on Mr. Cool James. Todd Smith. Tell them

Anthony:

I think they're both right. Oh, cool. He's right. Think academics is right.

Jeff:

Academics is not right. Sure about that.

Anthony:

I think his terminology is incorrect. But I think there's there's a bit of rightness to believe it or not.

Jeff:

It's like saying Oh babe roofing shit because he never made a million dollars. greatest player of all time. Yeah, guys now we're making $40 million a year Babe Ruth made like 50,000 you insane

Anthony:

I think

Jeff:

but this a different time. Everything's relative. The thing would have got and we're talking like lol said we're talking about hip hop something that wasn't a thing yet something that people didn't believe in that people didn't even know what it was and now it's the most popular genre of music in the entire world.

Anthony:

I think an hour is actually the perfect person for this right if academics want to talk money like alright man we'll go asset for asset check for check. You talking about us everybody broken dusty. Let me see what you got. Because you ran the Raven not me. I like I like El is one of the few people I know in regards to hip hop history. Was never ever really talking about money. It was always hip hop. It was always music bars lyricism, it was what Ever but it wasn't, I got this I got day like he was mentioned, like the bubble of bins and shit like that, and so on so forth. But no, like, I got meaning to me to this or I own this own that never. But I know that he's well off. I know he's wealthy outside of things, he's done it inside of hip hop and outside of it, the radio show the TV shows and movies well off. So for someone to call like, no, hip hop artist, Dustin, everything else like that. It's because of people like academic, what I mean is that we don't allow hip hop to really have and keep and develop legacy acts, the way that rock and roll does. Like I said, the rosamma still performing, they still making means like, am I going to go see Jay Z in 15 years, I would. If he's doing some I would, because I want to keep supporting, not necessarily like the thing about Jay Z and being a billionaire or anything to that degree. But just the fact that he is still performing still doing his thing at that age. I'm cool with that. Like, I'm cool with preserving the legacy of hip hop, and appreciating the people that came before you. So whenever they have like, the Beatty awards or something like that, and they bring up like an older actor, they bring up a KERS, they bring up a rock him a big, dedicated things like that, like I'm always excited, because I still imagine them as the forefathers still being here if they can do it as long as they can. And the voice still holds up and they can still perform a little bit if you've got to stand there and wrap I'm cool with that. The guys like academics don't appreciate things like that, because always the now this Whatever is hidden now is whatever is making money now, but it's going to last forever. No, because they don't have the knowledge that the people before them came. They don't know, like how records how records are made, even though it's digital age, like to put in the time and effort to actually perform to actually hone the craft to actually like learn how production works, how this sounds with that how A goes to B and X go C period, they don't do that no more. So when you run into guys like academics talking about that, it's like you're saying that and you're you're disrespecting the the legacy of what hip hop is supposed to be. And you're also diminishing the value and you're shortening the lifespan because if the people like you don't go see those acts later in life. That's why they don't get paid that's why you do call them dusty because they still want to go out and tour they want to show the love to all the fans but y'all don't want to support it because like what no one will see the little brook as people like they was broke once before then it was rich months before but they love this shit so much they still doing it like like I can see like knives. It's like one of those guys I can see him especially because his dad is a jazz musician. I can see now it's doing a shift forever because he loves the shit period. So to complain about guys like who loved their work and then think that you know because they're not making the money you think they're supposed to make the call them does you'd like know you to Destiny one because because they doing something that they love, you just love to hate. So it says more about you than says about them.

Jeff:

Speaking of Nas, our boy Shakir actually went to the NAS and Wu Tang concert the other day. And Florida Buster came out and did a couple songs. He said was dope.

Anthony:

It's not obviously math

Jeff:

wasn't there. But he said they finished off with Knauss What's the song that Jay Z sampled the paper? And what was the was that the world is yours? Yeah. That the same? I think they ended it with that with a nice shirt. But anyway, going back to this topic about these young motherfuckers not appreciating the pioneers. I like what that one brother said on the math Hoffer show what's the dude that sits next to math. He has the beard and the glasses and the dreadlocks, Mecca I forgot his name Mecca. Okay, so let me play you a clip of something he said that resonated with me because this is exactly how I feel before you

Anthony:

do that. I don't I haven't listened to Joe Budden podcast that much I always watched him at harshit I love that setup. They always got real guys in there. I think I'm waiting for the next bit that the full ones to come out. I think the one would be me in the one with younger girls out there talking that shit but go ahead. Go ahead girl played a beat

Unknown:

is serious. There's a way to not do shit. That long move that little puffing and you yo some people everybody ain't happy that some of these dudes will talk. Please understand they're all these dudes you talking to the people you shit on the people you call oh, here's the people you call wash. These are the same people who are in charge 40 plus year old niggas run the game, you're gonna have to let that whole mentality going to impress them. And their standards are high as fuck because they watched the building get built. You just showed up. You got to chill. So It was nice. Talking, talk, nice

Jeff:

work. That's fact. Well, he was saying now,

Anthony:

you don't burn the building exactly how I feel right now. Like, you can't, you can't walk into the building that the builders made and talk about the quality of the building, you put all this shit together, every fixture, every light, every board, we laid all this shit down. So when you come in here, you wet your feet and you pay respect, we can get the fuck out. Like I said, in Mecca, 100%, right? The guys that you're talking about, and the guys who call him dusty. They're the ones who run those rooms. Those are the ones that are at the labels and things of that nature. There though, the guys who should know and are the gatekeepers now, because before they weren't, but they learn the game, they learn how to manage how to maneuver to how to do all this stuff. And in the end, once they got the keys, they go and decide who's going to be let in who's going to be let out. And they won't let you in with that kind of attitude, you got to, like I said, respect, it's easy to give, because it's basic, I I'm doing my best. I'm saying you as a person, you're doing your best to understand me as a person. Even though we might have a difference of opinions and views. At the end of the day, I respect yours, we respect mine, that doesn't hurt me, it doesn't hurt you because everyone's entitled to theirs. But to just try to make a blanket statement about everybody like that, then expect those people to respect you, or as a matter of fact, work with you, or maybe even send their artists to talk to you. It's not going to happen. They don't respect you, they're not going to work with you. And it all comes down to that respect more than anything else. If you don't respect what I do, go and get the fuck out and try somewhere else. Once all indoors, the closer you don't expect us to open it back up to you. Academics notice she's been around for awhile, he's a smart guy. But if he wants to go about this shock route and try to say, this is how it's supposed to be y'all up whatever you got to matter to me and you got to match your hip hop and so on so forth. They are hip hop, they created this is their house. Now either you can, you can become living there with us. Or you can just come by and visit. Or you can just watch from the outside. I mean, you got options, but the choice is yours. But the combat people like this the combat people that came before them, you don't know their financial situation, you don't know what they've been through. Like I said, we all talk about the rock and roll stars and shit like that. They've been through court fights and drama and divorce and sure like that they've lost money, they've gained money. That's how it goes. That's the way the world works. You you're trying to equate success with, you know, financial well being No, you just have to be really good at just one thing and they get paid very well for it. That doesn't mean that you're necessarily greatest at this, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're good at this, you just happen to fall into a particular pocket at a particular time. Everybody loves hip hop, our culture has been built, designed, copied, copied and pasted. CTRL V cut pasted whatever, we influenced all of this shit. And all we're trying to do is find a way to properly monetize so we get out do but it's people like him that shit on the culture that makes it even harder to do because it's not that we're not the only ones here and other people are and if they start believing your opinion then we're never going to get out just do it and just do financially when anything else so it's a tricky thing. Academics probably need to calm the hell down but this will be one thing it'll be something else for him like this is how it's going to be he wants to be that kind of person. I ain't got a rock with it. Like before even like I kind of heard about it. I didn't get it lol response. I know other people did too. Well, like it's academics. I just really didn't care like Brian Eno by the time for you sometimes the best thing to do with certain people just ignore them and just let them fade away and just let them be miserable in the corner. While I'm over here just enjoy my life. So have fun I'd act here Rutgers graduate to Nick great to work with me off. Fuck.

Jeff:

The final tally on the Nia Long pole is 100% Nia Long. So I'm telling you she's more famous men, but as Flannery O'Connor said, a story has to have muscles as well as meaning and the meaning has to be in the muscle. Episode 112

Anthony:

stop doing that shit. It's in the fucking title I even am shit. Like we'll do that bye! episode 112 Fuck you