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Oct. 10, 2022

Las Vidas Latinas Importan

Las Vidas Latinas Importan

It is still Hispanic Heritage Month as Kanye West and Candace Owens rock "white lives matter" shirts and the backlash that ensues. If Latinos lives matter was a movement, would we support it? Also, President Joe Biden pardons everyone convicted of marijuana possession under federal law, will review how the drug is classified. What are the pros, cons and what ramifications might this have on society?

Topics Discussed:

  • Did Joe Biden think things through before pardoning marijuana convictions?
  • Kanye West, Candace Owens and the white lives matter movement
  • Is Kanye a genius?
  • Ant says Kanye doesn't care about Black people
  • What if there was a Latino lives matter movement

Featured Song:
Part II - Method Man, Redman

Referenced Links:
Biden pardons thousands of people convicted of marijuana possession (cnbc.com)

Kanye West defends 'White Lives Matter' shirt on Tucker Carlson (nypost.com)

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Transcript
Jeff:

Yo, yo, yo, yo, thank you for tuning in to another episode of The coach said, Boy, Jeff, here when my man

Anthony:

was good, nobody likes you. Not this again. No one loves you. As some harsh shit to say somebody. Oh, hello Anyway, before we even get started because I know you but enough to name so that anybody ever give me any feedback about it, I should think.

Jeff:

Nah, because I don't think anybody ever thought of it like that until you brought it up. Once you brought it up, then I think people started listening to the lyrics and like, huh, this might be some illegal shit.

Anthony:

No, no. Are you my man, right? Barring short, like, I'm not a sociopath. Like, why do I keep thinking like this?

Jeff:

No, because what was the other song? That you're dancing kind of slow. With a little poke coming through on you. I'm next. We'd never really paid attention to the lyrics. And when you listen to the lyrics, he's talking about getting hard. Exactly. He's talking about getting an erection on the dance floor. poking the boot the chick with it. And when you actually listen to the lyrics as an adult, you're like, Oh, well, we was dancing to when he was little in bed. And singing too. We had no idea what we were saying. I wasn't really paying attention to

Anthony:

the can't finish girl just standing real close.

Jeff:

You making it hard for me or for me?

Anthony:

Oh, what's hard on you when like, like, he's standing there talking about it his whole life. It's not like it's soft. He's like, no, like, I'm Rob card and I'm just gonna switch between your sex with the premise of the whole song. Oh, it was this thing? It was mad songs that was nasty to you actually thought about? Like, I was just kind of fucked up.

Jeff:

I mean, we were singing a Thong Song bro. In high school like no and like, Yo, that's my jam. No hometown, tonto. But, you know, what are we talking about? The 90s in the early 2000s The best error ever? Is it really? We start listening to these these lyrics?

Anthony:

It was it was mad rapey we just don't want to admit it. Actually, it was great. The brochure was pedophilia, ik. And do I think the Thong Song is just so goofy? Like the title, the title of the Thong Song like K rhymes that's nice. But like it's like it's kind of silly. Looking at so devilish dance and hip hop spots connected that they should like to pop because you will. Right, right. Right. Like you say shit like that. Like she was Living La Vida Loca like

Jeff:

it's kind of, but even a video was like his daughter on a bed like she finds a thong or like Daddy was this. He's like, Oh, shit. You find songs and shit on the bed. Right? It's weird.

Anthony:

It's weird. It's kind of method we think about it, but it's it's kind of a weird man. Because, like, even now, when's the last time you like, Yo man, how you doing? Man? Like yo, I'm livin la vida loca. Well, last time I heard that shit. Not exactly No one says that. I wouldn't. If you as mattify I'll give you permission. If you see me out and about and I just say that shit. Like no hesitation like it's not slapping you like you can clock me one at a time I don't care. I'm livin la vida loca I'm living my crazy life Nick Shut up. Fuck you. And and and and and and we out and we just mess tight Shut up. We're going to gain three types we're going to be backing this motherfucker. Fuck it you talk about you gonna text me last night? We're gonna try and do shit. We'll wait for the mess like I wait for the mess we're gonna figure this out because we had to tie it up. I kind of fucked I mean you know to grind through too many pitches we had to bring in Diaz way earlier gonna thought but Alonzo showed up. He just showed up. So now we go into game three, which is today but I'm gonna pass it on about

Jeff:

how you how you feel about that trumpet song when Diaz comes out that should get you hyped though.

Anthony:

I know but it's no interesting man. No,

Jeff:

no, it's not it's a sad man.

Anthony:

When you hear Mario coming out to that like okay, we're not gonna stick around let's go ahead and

Jeff:

you know game is over. When the Trump has come on the game might be over.

Anthony:

Right? But it is lit because he'd come dragged out. Like a like a matador. It's that's

Jeff:

kind of racing. That's kind of racist though. Because the beast sounds like some type of Mexican beat. But it's the dudes that played the shit is like some Italian What the fuck are these muffins ain't even Spanish. A man in the picture is not even Mexican bro. He's fucking Puerto Rican or whatever the fuck he is.

Anthony:

But it gets you just like the sound of it like but that's the beginning of the song. And then the rest of it some other shit. It's like some techno shit. Yeah, bullshit. Just wanna hear the rest of the phone is trash. You had a bad crowd into it. And that's all you want. Could you want like that thing? Like, everybody like has it every superhero needs The music. Yeah, that is Hells Bells was I remember Hoffman's.

Jeff:

I remember when they had to do the band play that should live. And that's the game that he blew. He blew that game. Yeah. And it was like I will come back again tomorrow and do it again.

Anthony:

Like none of them don't come back. They'll come back. We'll play the last week. It was it was cool before we fucked it up.

Jeff:

Anyway, man. Shout out to the Patreon is the coach a crew. King cause a third? I heard he was texting.

Anthony:

Smoke his fucking Bucha if we can see ya see, I'm gonna say that hope I don't regret it. Tonight. This is recorded and how you can where you can replay that you like you're gonna smoke? What my fuck? Like no, no, I believe myself. Yeah, to smoke. Nothing fancy. This

Jeff:

ain't gonna let you live it down. He gonna be like, Yo, go play episode 114 or the coach or where you said he was gonna smoke me? He?

Anthony:

I know. I know. He won't. That's why I'm saying that. We're proud man, that I win. And I lose the same way. I'm not just like, I love food. I'm gonna show up when I'm when I'm sure I want to lose. I'm changing nobody. We're in the rest of our team.

Jeff:

Alex so say, Okay, Mr. de Blanc Hellwig I'm actually playing him in fantasy this week. He put in Jonathan Taylor. He didn't know he put in Jonathan Taleb. He know he took Jonathan Taylor out because he's hurt. And he put in Heinz because he picked up Heinz and he gets hurt

Anthony:

and got his extra bowl bore

Jeff:

concussions he was wondering Yeah,

Anthony:

hell yeah. When you watch the replay he tried he stands up he takes couple sets and he just like you'd like he's drunk. Like he cannot get as liquid as you look scary. That is experiment man football dangerous sport.

Jeff:

Yeah football they have to get these concussion protocols and check man because it's just happening too often and muffle because you know, they could get cleared right away and then they not even the same still. Weeks later

Anthony:

about in like in training camp like them when the Guardian caps like it's to protect your brain. Why are you doing it? Like, I feel stupid with this on like, I'm trying to save your life here. Like, work with me. All the people are crazy, but we're good now. All right, who else is gonna list? Tasha? Tasha, I think a dash. Yeah. Symbol.

Jeff:

Yeah. Melly Mel. Really? Mo Simba. Lion King Simba. Somebody named Mikey she

Anthony:

How cool is that baby to be in here?

Jeff:

Mikey she's baby. Yeah. Oh, no me because I saw a picture she don't even look pregnant bro. I think there was just trying to get some free gifts from us, bro. Oh, no. No, because they tried to talk about she's like 18 months pregnant. She don't even got a bump. I'm like,

Anthony:

what kind of pregnancy is some people like that name scared so low. You can't even tell like like, it's like, a little bit but it's whatever.

Jeff:

Yeah, but she's like 12 months pregnant already, bro.

Anthony:

Seems like it's more than that. Like how long?

Jeff:

What kind of pregnancy?

Anthony:

I know. I know how much it is because it's on this on this page when they do they show how far along they are so

Jeff:

what is it like six months? That's impressive.

Anthony:

Six months I believe? I think so.

Jeff:

All I know is Mikey keeps looking posted on his social media or gifts you've been given. The kid already has like 12 pair of Jordans a shoe. He already got 18 pair shoes bro hasn't even been born yet. Or name brushes. You gonna be coming out fresh. He might put them on before the doctor even puts them out. Like Mike he's gonna get hold of me put the Jordans on real quick. And he gonna pop out fresh.

Anthony:

We're already teaching his kid about capitalism. September 23 is what it was 29 there was 29 weeks pregnant. So 31 weeks pregnant? Yeah. 31. But almost.

Jeff:

I will shout out to them. That let's get this show rolling. Man. I got a couple of things I want to talk about man. And I need your opinion. First of all, Mr. Mr. Let me start with the comedic

Anthony:

shimmy. Discussion podcast. I want you to pick into well, yeah.

Jeff:

Your thoughts on Candace Owens. I mean, we already?

Anthony:

No, no, no, no, no. We'll leave that for last. Okay. We'll go you're gonna leave them. We're gonna leave this little motley crew. We're gonna leave them for last.

Jeff:

Okay, got that you got some stuff to say about them?

Anthony:

Of course. They're gonna be laughs The other thing I think is. It's intriguing.

Jeff:

All right. So we'll leave Kanye and Candice for later. So we can rip them new assholes and shit. But let's just get into the other topic then. And if you want to support the show, just follow the links in the show notes, become a patreon, etc.

Anthony:

And sell drugs because Biden is letting everybody off. Now.

Jeff:

Yeah, so president Joe, Joe Biden has pardoned everyone convicted of marijuana possession under federal law. And he said that the US will review how the drug is classified. First of all, is he trying to like write his own wrongs? Because there's people in jail from selling drugs from when Clinton was in office, from a bill that he wrote that Joe Biden wrote, and handed it to Clinton and Clinton was like, ah, yeah, fuck it. I'll pass this shit. Let's put these black folk back in jail. The three strike rule,

Anthony:

y'all.

Jeff:

I'm saying black and brown. We were the ones that were selling the most drugs at the time. We got caught, we got caught.

Anthony:

We just got arrested, demoted, right?

Jeff:

And then you know, this is your third strike. So you're going to jail for 20 years? Are you going to jail with a trillion dollar bail or what?

Anthony:

Anyway, the point is,

Jeff:

he has now pardoned people, the 1000s upon 1000s of people that are not going to be free. And again, I think he probably just won his second term with this if he decides to run again, because the man is in his 80s

Anthony:

But well, if he if he's taking that off the books is he also like reinstating their voting rights?

Jeff:

Oh, that's a good question.

Anthony:

facts because you didn't

Jeff:

really think it would make sense right for him to do that. I mean, that's the only way he's gonna get those people to vote for him.

Anthony:

Right cuz like cuz he because he's in like, federal we charges the whole thing. Like if if someone's in federal like a we charge like that, for federal simple marijuana, they probably only like the third strike. And that was it their trick? Something simple, right? Alright. So they got stuff, they got that through. And now they're going to like, we're going to call a game back, you're not going to get that strike and now going to free you. You're dealing with two questions. One does it? Does it reinstate your voting rights? Like I said, Because you are a felon. And two, I don't know how long someone's been in prison in regards to this. Let's say they've been in the prison for a while. Right. Right. And if that, so how you like reading? Re integrating them into society? Like it's a good answer to something, but it leaves other

Jeff:

a lot of questions. I feel like because of this, as a result, crime will probably go up in a lot of states. Because you figure these are people that have been incarcerated for the longest time, a lot of these people who don't you probably don't have family members, right? A lot of people all they knew was selling drugs, when they got locked up, right. And you let these people back into society who, you know, probably haven't been have no job experience. Because they haven't been working for the last 510 1520 years, right? They haven't you know, unless they've been in jail learning some shit learning a trade or some they might come out into the real world and not be a productive part of society. Maybe so they might not have any alternative but to go back into doing some shady shit,

Anthony:

that they just they just might be just trying to figure out a way without selling.

Jeff:

I mean, you could sell illegally though you can still sell weed legally No, no. But the thing I figured out from my

Anthony:

pocket had been there for a while they don't want to go back they just like some people just get tired of fucking prison. Everybody who knows with a system like that it's like they got their life together not because like they found Christ or the some change in life or circumstances. It's like I'm having slightly tired of going to jail. They because you're missing everything. You're missing life events. You're missing the people that care about you. It's a lot. relationships, marriages, children, houses, families, kit car, shit anything, but you just get tired of going to jail like I'm sick of this shit. And that's what changes them. So this rehab, should they telling you on TV that's not true. It's just someone is literally exhausted. Like I cannot do the penal system anymore. So do this been there for a while. The last thing we'll do is go back in here because they know if they go back in there, they never come out. They can see freedom in X amount of time. Of course. I want to do anything I definitely saw no more dope. That's what got me putting him this time. I saw none of this shit. I do another shit. They keep to themselves until you figure out a way that's the most sensible thing for them. Are we going to see I don't know. It's just interesting how why does Joe keep doing it? And it'll seem like he's thinking about like he's doing the drug thing and not Thinking about how to like reincorporate people to society, right? They're doing the student loan thing. And that's coming to me some scrutiny. I'm like, like, are you just doing shit and just be doing shit and call it a day? Man, I'd be lost.

Jeff:

Yeah, I mean, now that you brought up, are they going to be able to vote? Then? You know, that's the first thing I'm hoping that he thought about. Because yeah, like I said earlier, he just won all these people's vote. But then you brought up something that I didn't think about, are they even allowed to vote? Right? Because if they can't vote, then what does he do? He's trying to right or wrong that he did 20 or 30 years ago, but it's not really going to benefit him. It's not going to benefit society, if you're going to throw some random people back into society that can't fend for themselves, you know, have no work experience can't get hired, you know, can't vote can't do shit. You know, you can say okay, well, they can sell weed legally, they can't get a loan to open up a business to sell. And you know, I mean,

Anthony:

so we've got no job experience,

Jeff:

you don't got no job experience, I'm going to education, I've got no family, probably a lot of them. You know, so there's going to be some pros and cons. That I hope he thought up.

Anthony:

Yeah. And I think I understand the point that you're trying to make, like, is he trying to redo the wrongs of his past? I don't necessarily think so. In this instance, I believe that it's more I realize that I react a particular way thinking that crime in society was caused by this, then coming to another realization that that's not true. And that, no, it's not traffickers, or a district see big time dealers getting arrested smaller people for small amounts, they're spending 10 to 20 years in prison. And you're like, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us to do so. So therefore, let's go ahead and change it. And right, and like I said, I think there was always the next step. Once you once certain states were allowed to legalize marijuana, you know, people went to prison for that pray for smaller amounts of salt, so forth. The best thing to do is go ahead and release them. Now. Do you have a plan to like reintegrate them into society? I don't know. I haven't heard anything about that. But I think that's something that's probably going to need to be discussed. And the timing of it too. Like it's like, like a man who's willing all y'all out today, or like, you're going to phase it in like phase one is low, low, low, low level and above that, and above that, because I'd say it's I mean, it'd be 1000 people, you get to review all this shit. Do you think no, you say no new thing. You got to kind of get this figured out? Yeah,

Jeff:

I mean, I feel like you know, yeah, nobody should be in jail for marijuana, obviously, especially since it's all legal now in most states, and it's about to be legal in the entire country. But when you just randomly, you know, do some pardons or do some shit like this, like it poses more questions than answers. Like, how are we going to do this? You know, I mean,

Anthony:

I don't know. Again, it's tricky. I think there's a way to solve it, but I do think that is tricky. Kenny, can you get this figured out? No. But I think this is the right step of a bettering society I guess you can say I think it's smart said they're legalizing marijuana everywhere and people who are no wasted years of their life could have you know, smaller amounts that shouldn't account to anything that they're going to be able to get back out and maybe do something with themselves and also good thing so

Jeff:

I want to know is like alright the people that were in jail because of the three strike rule, or we're gonna disregard their first couple of strikes like like you know, we got to know the extent of what the first two strikes were. Was it just selling drugs? Or do they have other misdemeanors Are these like violent criminals that we should be worried about? Like was there a third strike selling marijuana but they have two other strings that were some other shit?

Anthony:

Like like the first two attempted murder? We feel like whoa, what about the other shit?

Jeff:

Yeah, like Oh, no.

Anthony:

And that's why I said did you really think this one through probably the state air like you'll need to

Jeff:

you're gonna have some Jeffrey Dahmer. MAFAC is in line like, Yeah, I'm getting pod and Yo, I sold weed Once Upon a Time Life.

Anthony:

Like what cologne is that? Like, bro, get up. Get up my neck man. back my grocery shopping. Yeah, man. Yeah, just just just do what you got to do. That's the whole thing. Like I said, it's a great idea. And it's gonna it's gonna be an idea to put into practice. But did you really think of the ramifications of everything else behind it? And then people going to be suing like, my last my last thing was a marijuana possession. It was my third strike. He said you're going to, you know, chalk that off. But like I said, like said the other two could have been like attempted murder, or a violent crime. Something else like that. You give me an idea. I need parameters so people can know. It's the same thing. We still know. Like, how do I know I'm eligible? How am I eligible for this? Am I eligible for that? If I took out a private loan, or what if I did this, what like, y'all are doing things but we need a clear definition of what it is. It's a second time he's done that you've done something without? We're going to do this never quite explained like the how it's like, I don't know if we're going to do this, like Death Row Trumpian of you don't do that come with a fucking plan. Yeah, I feel

Jeff:

like he would have if he would have pardon student loans completely on top of, you know, pardoning these people for marijuana. I think that would have been secured like his second term, it would have been the whole thing is like, but now we still got questions, you know, saying, you know,

Anthony:

my biggest fear about wiping my off student loan, I don't think it's a fair amount of people that wouldn't be able to handle that shit responsibly. Like, they would have did that and then taking on more debt. Fact made sense to me, people like, I got the 75,000, I was off here. So I'm gonna take out another loan for 75,000. Like, bro, you can afford the house in the first place with without the student loans. You don't have to do this. But they would have. And I'm not saying oh, I just know, it's a fair amount of people that would have just acted reckless. Irregardless of their circumstances, they came like the student loans are killing me now you don't get through the loans by killing yourself. But there's no bailout in regards to that. So with that being one thing, and this being the other, like I said, we just sat here, and we're not political scientists, we're just some guys interested in news, we just thought about, like, there's some things that are problematic about this. It's just that we have nothing to do with policy or law. We just kind of sat here and thought like, you know, what do these motherfuckers really think they should through which like, probably not, but somebody's gonna get let out of jail. So because he or she goes. Got any kind of body under? No, no, marijuana should do that.

Jeff:

Not that I know.

Anthony:

You know what it is? I don't think that, okay, because this pops on my they're going to release them from federal prison. Are they also going to expunge their record of this charge? Or did they mention anything about it?

Jeff:

It's a good question. I mean, if they're getting pardoned

Anthony:

Yeah, but but you can always also always have in your record, they were arrested for this, but and pardoned by so and so forth. Pardon me, it's like, they're letting they're releasing you from it. But that doesn't mean like, there's a

Jeff:

stain on your record, right? Like if you go, like if you go on a job application, and they look at your record, you go to a job interview, like Yeah, we're gonna call you back, bro. He was in jail for 20 years.

Anthony:

Yeah. And that'd be the thing. Could they be like, you know, what, if it's expunged, it's not there. But if it's there, and they say that you were pardoned, but Well, there's gonna be some built in bias. Someone's gonna look at you like, you probably didn't deserve get out of jail. You probably don't deserve the job, but that's just where people are.

Jeff:

All right. Well, let me get to the other topic, man because I'm, I really want to hear what you got to say about this shoot. At the Yeezy Paris Fashion Week show, Kanye West was seen with political commentator Candace Owens, who we both agree is a coon Correct. Am I allowed to say that word was that safe? And they were both wearing white lives matter shirts. So you already know the type of backlash they both getting. We've been known I've been called Candace Owens a Kuhn on this show. Right? I mean, there's nothing wrong with being you know, supportive of all races etc.

Anthony:

But some that shit go ahead, and she actively

Jeff:

trying to find the right word rejects or neglects.

Anthony:

Didn't say the right word of the white word. If the white word but didn't the right word.

Jeff:

I feel like she always neglects and rejects the African American community.

Anthony:

Like negro. Stop it.

Jeff:

Just saying, you know, she's she's obviously married. She's married to a white gentleman, which is not wrong with but she's a heavy conservative, which again, is not wrong. But her views be wild. And most of the time that she she says, often sounds like she's always going against her own community. Is that safe? that's safe to say.

Anthony:

I mean, for her it is I mean, anybody from this community Bob and her right trying to run a fee with Candace Owens. She keeps herself

Jeff:

so she so she so her and Kanye were the black you know, they they both been open about not being supporters of the Black Lives Matter movement for different reasons, you know, it doesn't help the black community is not for us, it wasn't created by us etc. So they got the white lives matter shirts, and then I seen a scene most def are formerly known as most def now known as your scene Bay and he posted himself with a white lie Lives Matter shirt. But it said it was white lives matter because they like blocked out the E. It was they blocked out the V it was li ES and in the V is there, but it's like, you know, faded out.

Anthony:

Now that could have made that V. A little blacked out more. Right a grayish instead of

Jeff:

Yeah, it was great. But you get the point of what he was trying to say that yeah, I mean, like white luck, because at first I saw the picture. I'm like, Oh, don't tell me you're seeing Bae is in on this shutdown, too. And then I looked carefully, as I always white lives matter. And yeah, white lives do matter. Black lives matter. Latino lives matter. Every every fucking orange law, every library lives matter. So when you if you're going to wear a shirt that says all lives matter, it still sends a negative connotation, because it still feels like you're going against the Black Lives Matter movement. But when you're just but I can accept that more than a white lives matter shirt. Because it just seems racist. It just yells of racism, it just stinks of racism scenes, or is what depends who you ask if you ask Candace Owens, and if you ask Kanye, they'll tell you like, Nah, we just love everybody. And everybody's lives matters. Yeah, but your shirt says white lives matter, which is the same reason that you know, white people get mad at Black Lives Matter movement. Because they feel like we're just not we're saying because you know, when you were, say black lives matter, we're not saying only black lives matter. We're saying all lives matter, including black lives. I'm gonna let you go off on these people.

Anthony:

How do you how do you say how do you feel Latin lives matter in Spanish?

Jeff:

Or in Spanish? Be the Latina. We I don't know how you say matters? importer? La vida de los latinos importer, I guess. But it sounds like a whole last sentence.

Anthony:

I know. We're gonna have to figure that out. It's fine. Because we're gonna title that the title of this episode that shit. Don't change. We don't in Spanish to I want to word for word. It. Why is that? Because you're talking about the reaction to a particular problem that focused on a particular brand of people. So the Black Lives Matter movement was really kind of the bringing about the idea that through a series of murders of black people, trying to make it clear, that we're taking a stand against says that black lives matter, because it was they were taken out under unfortunate circumstances, unnecessary circumstances, so on and so forth. So I want to hold on to that point, I want to ask you a question. Outside.

Jeff:

According to my translator app, it says Latino lives matter directly translates to last be less Latinas important.

Anthony:

There we go forward. So y'all hear that she could ask me the name of this episode. So what is the reason why I keep staying on that is because it does matter. Because the consequences of certain things and when going against a particular group, it does matter. Let me ask you, well, I'm going to ask you to I'm sticking to this point for right now. If if Eric Garner was a Latin man. And then there was there was like a Latino lives matter, kind of movement, or just standing behind it.

Jeff:

And I was gonna ask you to, like, what? What I wear a Latino Lives Matter shirt. Like, how would that make me look? Sometimes? I don't think I would. For the same reason I went where white lives matter shirt, or Latino Lives Matter movement? It depends. Would this be after the Black Lives Matter movement took place? Or would it be like, if black lives matter if the Black Lives Matter movement never existed and somebody created a Latino lives matter? That yeah, black

Anthony:

lives matter. We have never existed and this happened to a person of Latin descent. Yeah, like some kind of crime like that by the by the police against a Latin person, and it causes big uproar. Yeah, we

Jeff:

probably follow it. Yes. Right. So and even and even still, like, a lot of these kids, you know, that are getting killed by police. A lot of them are half Latino to, you know, that, like half black, half Puerto Rican, half black, half Dominican, whatever it is, but, but in the news, are you going to hear as he's black? And I'm saying, but it's like, like, it

Anthony:

depends on how you bang, like, right, right, right, right. Because I was having a conversation about the rock to the rock, don't bang black, the less he has to land. Right? But that's rare. It's super, super, super, super rare. He bangs I guess call it Polynesian. Right? I don't want to say say Hawaiian. But as he said in rockbank Polynesian period, the way his talk is formed, everything he does is that he happens to be part black, but he definitely represent more that particular part of his culture. Now for Hispanic, and the Black Lives Matter movement never happened. And it was Latino Lives Matter thing. I think I think you should get a t shirt, should I get a shirt? Because people need to stand against it. Because it's not a thing against I think people are taking the race thing too far. The point of Black Lives Matter wasn't necessarily it wasn't quite fully, necessarily a black thing. It was an oppression thing is the constant brutality and, you know, basically unequivocal and undefended deaths of people of color, by law enforcement with no kind of like you can say get back from it. They kill they go home to their families, they keep their jobs they keep their pension, they do all that kind of what the point is, not the people who ran it have have done some really shifty shady shit with money buying houses all the kind of function all kinds of knots and said I don't vibe with just because I don't believe the leadership of it doesn't I don't believe with the message of it. I still rock with the message of it. And that's why these two fucking ass knuckles are so they are amazing in their stupidity, which leads me to question number two, outside of his brilliance as a producer, what in any way shape or form makes Kanye a genius? Outside of him thinking himself as being one?

Jeff:

Again, it depends who you ask man. Because you know, he's big, like in the fashion world now. With his clothing, which I think is ugly shit, and I went in the easy shoes are comfortable, but I'm not gonna spend $500 for them. And I wouldn't spend a dime on any of his clothes that look like this for homeless people. But but but in that in that world, he's a genius in the fashion world.

Anthony:

Right, but but is that a form of but is that a form of creativity? Or is that a form of genius?

Jeff:

I think there's one in the same I think they go hand in hand. I think you have to have some type of creativity to be a genius. And you have to have some type of genius to be a creative master.

Anthony:

Depending on what it is.

Jeff:

Because I mean, you know, people don't fuck with him, but people are still fucking with him in the music where he just got a new song with Eminem. When he talked about God and shit, which I told you was weird as hell to me, I don't want to hear him and then I'm talking about God or whatever. But still, like, I mean, they still fucking with him. He's still producing shift for people. He still got features were everybody. So in the music world, they still respect them, and they still love them, even if they don't, you know, fuck his politics. But in the fashion world, people are still fucking with him because he got his clothing lines on shelves and stores and major stores and shit. You know, the black community don't fuck with his politics and his antics.

Anthony:

It makes him a genius. In essence,

Jeff:

I think there's some genius in him. Yes. And I think to be a genius, you also have to have some type of crazy and YouTube.

Anthony:

I've always kind of felt that way. I don't necessarily mean you have to be like, a like a crazy person. But there has to be some sense of, there's gotta be something different about you. That's why you're able to do these different things.

Jeff:

Right? Like there's no fucks given.

Anthony:

Right? He's not a genius. He's never been a genius. He's never done anything. I mean, musically, yes. Great producer. clothing line. Okay, let's put it this way. You brought the idea to buy the plasma outside of his Jesus, have you seen anyone wear anything the Kanye West has ever made? No. Just sneakers, which keeps making the making the making the making, but the clothes and all the stuff that you've been bitching about with Reebok and gap? You see a lot of people wearing that shirt. No. Yeah, either. And the thing is that I can't tell the difference between that shit and some shit homes do where it looks exactly the same, it just holy and all that kind of nonsense. The fact that they allow him to go out there and say certain things. It's an issue to itself is to doing it the problem is the fact that like someone allowed that to appear, and that they let this could and they let this go on. And they wonder what the problem is. The problem is him the problem is going to be him now. I'm going to try to make this as clear and concise as I can. Y'all shot Kanye a lot of bills a lot of years called this man the genius. He's not getting really good at surprising things that don't make him no genius. The problem that you put people like this you put lives in danger. Not directly. But indirectly Well, you might guess my beat the fuck up though because so fast the smart winner white lives matter shirt right here. It might not work out too good for whatever he sits there with with her. I'm gonna waste my time saying that name but her and she's looking at him all lovingly as some shit like like this is the greatest thing ever. And if this is a troll something else like that, oh, like you said, this is a joke. It's not funny. You're not a comedian. Stop trying to make fucking jokes. You're ever because everything about you is making yourself look ridiculous. You just literally said a couple weeks ago like I'm letting other stuff go the Queen died. I'm gonna let go all grudges. You're arguing will puff your argument GG hedaya Arguing with everybody, for reasons unknown because they disagree with this in dissent. They're breaking, you're breaking your heart. Because you you think you have this vision something else like that shit, Nah, man. It's got to take in medicine, like your actual medicine, not like the metaphysical one like physical like your, your antidepressants, your bipolar medica you have to take this shit. Because every time I see him, he looks more ragged and more haggard. He just didn't rambled on just let him say words over and over again. It's a dangerous precedent because people for this cause itself have really tried to give everything else a day. And the first thing that happened when people started saying black lives matter or making Black Lives Matter of merchandise, I must say that the first thing that says like No, no white lives matter to know all lives matter. Like no, no, we're talking about a particular thing for a particular problem. This is what we're speaking about. It's like, like, you know, they have different things for breast cancer. There's a war going on right now for breast cancer. Now, you're not gonna say fuck breast cancer, but you're not gonna say, Well, why is money going towards breast cancer, all cancers matter? They do. This particular thing for particular populations needs to be kind of worked out and resolved. I hate that we have to keep talking about him. I hate that he comes up because he doesn't do anything besides troll. And for a guy who was so talented, who people remember Louis from the beginning him saying, George Bush doesn't care about black people. Apparently, he doesn't either. And maybe he never has. And that's true. And I came to that realization long time ago. Because that's why I don't like worry about him a cat for him like that. But the truth of matter is like he is what he is, he's a narcissist, and he is a capitalist, and I'm okay with that. But the sooner we get that and something for him for like, understanding and opinion or thinking about he should run for president something else like that we should probably knock the shit on off. But the dangerous part that we still have this, we still had to have these conversations about him because there's no one to check him. There's no one to talk to him because he's only hearing himself. Now, if that leads to ultimate destruction, which I mean, career wise. Now there's life on demand live as long as possible. Come to that, that's what it's got to be. But the fact that we are still trying to shoot bail about him and all this is just annoying. As a matter of fact, that's the only real time the only time we ever talk about him is really some function that he does miss going forward. We're going to talk about his music like that anymore. Like his last few albums like since you've heard him already. Now thinking about in the past, Can you honestly say like all imputes was made?

Jeff:

Yeah. I'm not focusing on his new shit. I forgot like his first four albums to me. Classic right? After that, he started falling off and then now he's doing his credit. This is Christian shit, I'm good man.

Anthony:

He does a Christian ship and act like a Christian, which I find hilarious. So but I mean, check us out to another be all kinds of going to be calm yet, if you don't want to deal with them. don't deal with them. Because like maybe in a brief,

Jeff:

he went to he went on Fox News, which everybody knows is very, very highly conservative and right leaning news station, and he sat with Tucker Carlson. And he told him, the idea of me wearing it was funny. Speaking about the shirt when he asked about the shirt, the white lives matter, because they do. And then, when Carlson asked West about a lanyard he was wearing for the interview. His response was similar to what the anti abortion Candace Owens said, when asked about the fashion statement, it's a photograph of a baby's ultrasound. It just represents a life pro life. So you wear it on a badge. What kind of response do you get Carlson followed up? I don't care about people's response, West replied, I care about the fact that there are more black babies being aborted than born in New York City at this point, the 50% of black death in America is abortion. So I really don't care about people's response I perform for an audience of one and that is God. I'm starting to see why they want to make you be quiet, answered Carlson, who then asked about West's rationale for the white lives matter shirt and what it means. He said, I do certain things from a feeling I just channeled the energy it just feels right. It's using a gut instinct, a connection with God and just brilliance. My dad isn't educated. Hold up before you go.

Anthony:

No, no, go ahead. No, no financial statement didn't have a quote he

Jeff:

said he said his dad has an educated X black pen. anther which I don't think I knew. And he put a text to me today he said white lives matter hahaha. And I said, I thought the shirt was a funny shirt. I thought the idea of me wearing it was funny and I said Dad, why do you think it's funny? And he said just a black man stating the obvious

Anthony:

Okay, now everything that you said right does this does sound like the words of a man who needs to be medicated.

Jeff:

He well he does take medication for his bipolar illness or whatever the fuck condition but he's not really taken. Yeah, when I don't think he's taken I think he'd be forgetting to take them shoes.

Anthony:

Forget my ass is good. Like you have like, people have like demanded with dementia. Like, you gotta make sure she takes the medicine. There's no one to make sure he taken it. Like, that's the whole thing. You know, the genius? It's a statement. Yeah, it doesn't rub off. Like, like, I'm the son of an ex Panther. But everything you're doing goes against their core premises and values. So don't don't state the shit that we state and shit when it's not what you think it is. It's not that if you're not, you're not doing anything that seems militant, gonna really uplift black people. You're throwing these random numbers like 50% of all deaths of our abortions like where like, where you get into your from and of all people you go to kind of talk to you go to most conservative fucking dig Facebook, you know, Tucker Carlson. Like, you're not. You didn't go to like, you know, any other media outlet, anyone, anyone that would challenge you, you went to somebody who's going to close on your bullshit right away. You made life easier for yourself. And Carlson never pushed back. He's let that man sit there and read. Because more like if he's right, he's a prophet. If he's wrong, he's crazy. But people still want to watch. Like anything he just saved my day, he says something about you know, being a son of a panther and finding a job and the idea of the shirt and so forth. And to do things off of a vibe, and so on and so forth. If you're doing things for energy, meaning not using your brain, you got to think about what you're doing. You can't live off of energy and vibes, the world the world has improved away it gets worse. And when you call him a free thinker, like no, just an asshole, stop, stop making excuses for people because like, no, he's different. And he's a free thinker. He's telling the truth. No, he's not. He's telling your lies. As math that he's not selling your lies. He's selling your holy shirts, comfortable sneakers and white lives matter shirts. That's he's doing. He's a narcissist who happens to be a capitalist. This is what he does. It's always some drama, some shit around him, so on and so forth. And the only reason we care because he's Kanye West. He was anybody else. No one would care. I wouldn't, you wouldn't? We wouldn't be talking about this. If Jay Z, Jay Z did this right here, right now we, we want to say like, you know, as JP and Jay, we were like, What the fuck is wrong with Jackie never been like this. There's no side to him ever acting sweet or saying anything about this. But with him? It's like, no, it's par for course, because we know who's gonna act exactly how he's gonna act.

Jeff:

Is there a scenario where the black community starts? I don't want to say forgiving because he still does have a large following. Mitigate. Do they accept? Do they accept Kanye? Does there's there? Eventually.

Anthony:

They already did. They already did. Black people shouldn't black people entirely too much Bill. Too much. Some people you gotta let go. I never let Dave Chappelle go. Because I understood what you're going through. You never did anything wrong. He had a show. He thought a premise was a little bit too racist. They disagreed. He had to go on about his life a different way. Or disagrees with some of the things that he says and things that he does. Yeah. Yeah, but but he always says it even in his comedy specials. A way to kind of explain it a bit. Kind doesn't explain kind of like he just literally said, I did it cuz I thought it was funny. I did it because no, that was the vibe. Like really, really, really? Like this is the energy that it told like, this is what you should do. Like a white lives matter shirt, even though it's complete directly. A slap in the face of the Black Lives Matter movement because you disagree with the Black Lives Matter More because you had a woman right there. That disagrees with the Black Lives Matters movement, but there's no thought behind. I like it feel good. And I thought it was funny. So I made sure. Yes, awesome. Like it's great. Cool. Like no, but that's not funny, man. Like, he's like, you'd like basically so anyone who sends him a text he's putting up in this thing. Like he like he got an argument did he like Did he want sit down and talk to him? You call him a fed and all this other shit. I'm like, see? This is y'all man. Y'all keep fucking with him. And I understand this always tell people like this. I don't give a fuck if you black. I'll get fuck free, white, Spanish, Asian, whatever race you might be. I don't care what sexuality might be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual. Doesn't matter. transsexual. Pansexual doesn't. I never judge you as a person of your race, your sexuality. Your gender, Creed. Never for me I judged as a human period I've given up a shred of straight convenience to be a terrible fucking person means gay is gay can be and be a an absolutely tremendous person I'm going to be or hang around a tremendous person. He hasn't been whoever we think. And he's been for a long time. That's the part that's scary. That's the part that in reality is said, Hey, Ben, Kanye, all his music, all his actions, the way he acted towards Kim, the way he fucking broke down was why he's running for President, for no good reason, I'm going to create my own party, it's going to be called the rainbow party. We're gonna have fun, y'all let him cook for all the time. And I like, once he was at that stage, I was off of it. I was awful. But he did that slavery was a choice shit of a vape pen. But I'm not going to argue with the guy. He gonna be who we are going to be because we don't push back enough against them. So you're asking if they accept them? I know they accepted them. But no, some people like they're not going to take him seriously. They're, they're gonna be like, such as Kanye being Kanye, or they're going to be like, well, and God should do with me. And they're probably right on both ends. But the thing is, like, if you say some of this gonna kind of hurt you, indirectly, one way or another. Maybe you should be a little bit more concerned. Or, you know, we, we protect ourselves to a degree because that's our, our nature. We want to want ALL THINGS black to win, but in some situations, sometimes they'll let certain shit go. He's just one of them people sadly, or we are. He's going for me. Let's rewind that. I can't finish it for other people. But by the time that homeboy go,

Jeff:

the thing about forgiveness is Hannah Arendt said forgiveness is the key to action and freedom. Thank you for tuning in to this week's show. Next week, we are interviewing a gentleman who happens to be gay. Who happens to be a pastor and what happens to be black you know what's funny? This should be interesting.

Anthony:

When you read that statement I was just about to say forgive this deck Let me hold this back. Pause oh my gosh, I forgive me shit fuck you.

Jeff:

Next week's episode man should be interesting man. Yeah cuz out going to websites go to that one.

Anthony:

And say you're sorry to to Kaiser Kaiser say you started talking to me nice Kaiser. Talk to me. Nice bad news for you. Barkley might be injured man. Shut up while you were bringing negative shit

Jeff:

because he's always hurt bro and if he's hurting a little chance of being because

Anthony:

he didn't know what you were talking about things like that you're gonna need to do you know Peace out yo, bye

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