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Oct. 11, 2021

Ladies Night: Best Female Rappers of all Time

Ladies Night: Best Female Rappers of all Time

Its ladies month on The Culture, and the boys kick it off by honoring women with their list of top 5 female rappers of all time.

Topics Discussed:

  • New Apple reviews
  • KRS Verzuz Kane
  •  Social Media crash of 2021
  • New music
  • Jon Gruden racist remarks
  • Racist neighbors
  • Ghetto Word 
  • Former NBA players arrested for insurance fraud
  • Who's the best Wu-Tang member?

Featured Song: Not Tonight (Ladies Night Remix) - Lil' Kim (featuring Angie Martinez, Left Eye, Da Brat, and Missy Elliott

Ghetto Word of the Week: Yo
Urban Dictionary: Yo

Referenced Links:
Report - Jon Gruden used racist comment in referring to NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith in 2011 email (espn.com)

18 NBA Veterans Arrested in $4 Million Health Insurance Fraud Scheme – NBC New York

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Transcript
Jeff:

Peace, peace, peace, peace. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture. It's your boy Jeff here with my co hosts and going Oh,

Anthony:

man watching trade in places. That's what's up. But Yo,

Jeff:

we're closing in here finishing up on Hispanic Heritage Month we're wrapping that up. So a special shout out to all my Latinos. And now we're starting Breast Cancer Awareness Month. So, you know, I want to give a shout out to everybody who's survived going through or had breast cancer piece to y'all and I want to dedicate this whole month to our ladies, you know, man to our women. So that's why in today's episode, we're gonna break down our top five female rappers of all time. And I'm already letting you know right now I got a couple honorable mentions.

Anthony:

But we'll get into I know Brahma

Jeff:

will give a shout out to our patrons. We appreciate y'all. Let me read we got some review. We got some new reviews on Apple Yo, sure. Read them off to the ones that I saw the other day. Um, let me see. This one is from September 17. Somebody by the name of Robert Wood, said it's a must listen. The Rams wide receiver receiver got a big game to swing. Yeah, you had a good game catches 100 150 See, we

Anthony:

said you want Rob receiver

Jeff:

said I just wanted to take a moment and say thank you for creating such an impactful, just an impactful I believe that we all have a voice that deserves to be heard. Thank you for putting this into the world. And somebody by the name of two people in a podcast on August 27 said I love this podcast. I definitely recommend you listen to it. Thank you appreciate that. And yo this week we survived the social media crash of 2012 you did I didn't give a shit I didn't give a shit either. But people was tripping. I didn't even know that the show was going on you know I'm saying until people were texting me like yo social media crash I was like really? And then I went on Facebook and that wasn't working I was like okay whatever like I'm you know I'm working I'm going about my day like you know I'm saying like but people were really trippin like oh shit what I'm gonna do with myself and I was telling people like yo I think this is just a social experiment by the powers that be or whoever runs Facebook or whoever just to see you know I'm saying the social collapse of civilization when they close when they shut down social media for a day or for half a day because I was doing like six hours a song even know how long it was. It was like half the day just to see I felt like there was just trying to do a test to see how people gonna react

Anthony:

to conspiracy theories that it came just at the head the the whistle blow on Capitol Hill talking about Facebook and algorithms and the very next day the whole thing crashes. Is it a coincidence? Sure. Could I see how someone can make a conspiracy out of it? Yeah, but I mean it's not like they shut it down period. I mean, they can't really afford to. And I mean, I don't know what tripped out a lot of people because they're all connected WhatsApp, messenger and Facebook. And they're all on the same roof. Instagram too. So once one goes down it all went down and people to bugging out like oh my god, I can't Yo man just Yo it's good to disconnect from the shit sometimes put your phone down. It's not really popping out there just enjoy the world he trying to see what's going on what's been flagged or what's happening these internet streets in the real streets is way more interesting man go get some fresh air. What I find

Jeff:

that people really rely on like Facebook and stuff to like message other people to the point where a lot of people either forgot or didn't even know that you can actually text somebody or just call them on their actual phone. You know, I'm saying I have one of our patrons D block. Tell me that, you know, for his business, one of his employees couldn't figure out how to get ahold of them after the ship crash. And then eventually he said after like half hour, his employees figured out that he can actually just pick up the phone and call him.

Anthony:

There's 10 little numbers, you're pressed that

Jeff:

and it's sad, bro. Like that's, that's the society we're in right now. Where people rely on social media, Facebook, Instagram, to communicate with people, you know? Like they don't know any other way. So I was like,

Anthony:

Why tell people? If you know me, you got my number. You can call me For question number. The number Your name is saved into a phone. Just tap a name. Boom, whoa, I was doing too much. In fact, these people.

Jeff:

But Yo, they announced the next the next vs. Which is gonna be k Rs, one vs. That's coming up more like next week. Next Sunday. We'll have to talk about that next week. But I think we're both and this is the first time we've ever mean you have ever agreed on a versus battle. We both got k RS one winning this by a landslide. Am I correct?

Anthony:

Easy easily, because this is what he does. And he performed he's one of the best out there. And I'm sorry if most people have Kane Kane don't got 20 I mean, K. McCain. Oh god. 20. Right. It's the order of Cain. It's the flow cane. It's the style of cane but it's not the body of work or cane. It's a different chair. Wes can go back to no Boogie Down productions. He can go to a bunch of little pockets that he's been doing this for What more than 40 plus years and the man still out here performing look is going to be careless and it's not going to be close I mean let's can't want to come out here and start dancing and shit but I don't know how long is gonna last up and 50 plus years old, but it's not still not gonna be enough no matter what came plays Kerris has 100% a counter like he will leave one with a cane he'll leave Smooth Operator for the end but like by that time you're dead they don't make a difference like you're going to close out the show but

Jeff:

have fun and these are two legends and even if Kane does have 20 Can he outperform KERS on that stage? and not many can you know what I'm saying? This is what he does like hey RS says that in his music he's like you know instead of flow for flow let's go show for show toe for toe yo you better act like you know like you know too many MCs take that word MC lightly they can't move a crowd not even slightly you know I'm saying like he prides himself on going up on that stage and being one of the most legendary performers

Anthony:

right isn't that what him is not the whole rap thing. He is the epitome if you want to define what an emcee is, is what he does. He controls the crowd he gets people moving he gets people singing along he gets it gets him swinging left and right he gets him throwing their hands in there it's what he's done his entire career just won't be no different and like no disrespect to Kane and just not necessarily a good matchup for him it's good to have these legends there but terrorists one remember Come on man now it's been supreme over nearly everybody that just look call it we gotta rest guaranteed of rip a party

Jeff:

yeah we got a week but I don't think we're gonna go well I will say I felt like maybe kuji rap would would have probably been a better or Rakim would have been a better challenger for carriers know what you think?

Anthony:

I mean it like let's let's say if Kane does his verse off the symphony like he could bring out kuji rap and everybody was like he could do that and I might be a win but I mean if you know Cara saw that I will step into my world like I love the symphony but she's still dead

Jeff:

in Legos when you pop software you know that's the sound of the police you don't have people tripping

Anthony:

me exactly they don't know the bridges over bridges over the bit about bought

Jeff:

in me and he should pull out Sham Sham should come out for us it just yeah

Anthony:

we don't bury this yet. So we can just have some fun with it but I mean we got time loosey goosey

Jeff:

but yo last week we um we went over our top list of rappers under 40 correct and yeah my list still stands I'm not changing the list but the only regret that I have after thinking it over is that I omitted Dave east and Conway from my list because and I told you this before to me Dave East has one of the best if not the best album of the year to me so far they've he says album is legit the one he made was the producer to us

Anthony:

we're hearing fraud heavy fraud great

Jeff:

a lot of people like that you know that melodic but a saxophone II that jazzy shit I love that shit

Anthony:

but that was the thing no because just said this is that one album and that's why I had the guys like have when I had Drake ahead Kendrick and had coke like I said cuz I'm looking at the bottom and right now he's still under 40 Dave was going to be up there absolutely how he plays a great Method Man on Wu Tang I was gonna say that but he got more but like I said you left off Conway and that's why I put Vinny there because it would have been one of them three because they're all three different but I couldn't have done this without having one of the other boys on it

Jeff:

it didn't make any sense to me not to right so that's that but there's some new music this week to pap who's dropped to September little EP and I'm ashamed that we haven't talked about this yet on our podcast because he's been doing this every month every month for this year but he got he got one here's nice, I understand. Nice he's one of those rappers rap rappers he's a lyricist. But you got to care and every month he has a little EP little 789 tracks every month January February March this one was called September for the month of September and the very first song is met them and I keep telling you your met the man is getting better with aid he's like fine why like you open up with met the man he has again one of the hottest verses of the year I'm like damn we

Anthony:

already have it because math is going to be fourth we're gonna do this one day we're gonna write with a rank do like the top five Wu Tang members in my on my list methods fourth easy

Jeff:

Oh what we're what categories we're doing because if we're talking about everything if we're talking about like met the man is not obviously the Best Lyricist on it. You can argue that Ghost Recon jezza is probably better than him. You can spec the deck you can argue that these guys are better but but but when it comes to everything else, you know, I'm saying what you know it was everything else. Oh, the fame. The you know, I mean, the publicity cuz it's the handsome guy. Not only that, but the what he's doing for the culture, just the success, then I mean, everything else. He's obviously the most successful member of the group. He's making movies. He's got TV shows. He's out there. You know what I mean? He's the most he's the most no doubt.

Anthony:

He was a leader. He Beyonce was the leader Destiny's Child. She wasn't the best singer,

Jeff:

right? But she's the most famous. She's the richest.

Anthony:

All right where did this make Matt like he's still like on my left he's still fourth collector even of all the three dudes you name ahead of him. Those three dudes had classic albums method number one to count you don't consider to cow no it was an introduction but its introduction was really on on Method Man on the whoo album and then bring you

Jeff:

right right Yeah absolutely. Yeah purple tape is probably the best Wu Tang album ever and as a ghost face and recon then you got ghosts favorite to bring clientele and you got the other shit was the other one thing Iron Man Iron Man you guys inspect the deck never had silver property guys Judah was liquid towards not only liquid sores you got liquid sores and you got what's the other one beneath the sir I

Anthony:

noticed two of them

Jeff:

yes that should is a classic to me. I like every song on that album

Anthony:

and methods and methods the most successful one but he doesn't want it doesn't have a silver project called his own like

Jeff:

but that's why I'm saying that he's getting better with age because the other ones you can't you know they're not really doing much but met the man is still doing features everybody puts him on a hit and is versus you know i mean when you hear a new methods a man a song feature Method Man he usually has the best verse punish you know, unless you had to share with Conway and I nominated that when I was the best verse of the year. I'm not

Anthony:

doubting it I'm just saying that sense of the entire world catalog like he's the most famous of the mall but in a sense of hip hop itself. Probably it probably I would say it's Ray ghosts jezza then probably him he probably would have been fifth dirt would live to

Jeff:

no no stop stop stop stop there. He's not better than me.

Anthony:

Are you trying to say that odd first album wasn't a classic?

Jeff:

He's not better than math. Let's

Anthony:

stop that. Are you trying to say

Jeff:

by the way let's talk about that he

Anthony:

knew right or are you trying Reza was writing a lot of his shit we were about to do a list of a bunch of people I can tell you they did a fair amount in my focus on this list did not write their own shit I guarantee you but the whole thing is like it's who they are. It's the Wu Tang clan you think of them as a collective but taking them apart individually they're like well maybe wasn't the greatest he was good but he just pales in comparison to the other guys I was there no offense no offense a madman at all. But he's done other things he's grown beyond it which is why someone is going to be on my list is going to be mentioned when we get to our list okay, but but that's part of the reason why but that's neither here nor there we're having a discussion but Well listen, I know Paul September brushes dope What about all the other months

Jeff:

now? Yeah, now some of them adult on wall or on the job actually I went back and actually listened to all the classes are short six seven tracks each thing is spitting is real shit is real hip hop shit. You know I mean,

Anthony:

but that's the funny thing about hip hop like sometimes like alright man, I don't want to do this shit with you for months. Like and he

Jeff:

got on one of those joins he got his wife on and Remy you know, I mean on the news when he got met the man he got a bunch of, you know, bunch of like real rap.

Anthony:

rappers. Yeah. I go to listen, I pick. I just take all business, take a drive and see what how it makes it feel. Look at you.

Jeff:

Yo, new segment of is that we actually have two stories today. The first one we're going to start with is the Jon Gruden story. NFL coach. He's actually coaching the Raiders correctly. There was an email that was leaking and an email is granted 10 years old. But it was an email that leaked. It was an email that was sent to the president of the Washington football team in July of 2011 as the NFL and his players were in the midst of trying to resolve a lockout. So Smith

Anthony:

said when he when they were the Redskins, that's hilarious when they when it used to be the Redskins, right. fast enough. So

Jeff:

this is Jon Gruden and he was referring to the Maurice Smith, who's the head of the Players Association. And he goes he goes he said that Smith had the lips the size of a Michelin tires. I mean, I don't know what you know, what's the context of the whole sentence was but that's what he said. And then he said he has routinely used the term rubber lips to refer to a guy that he catches as lying, or that he can't spit it out. He was like I am ashamed. I insulted the Smith Gruden told ESPN adding I never had a racial thought when I used it. I'm embarrassed by what's out there. I certainly never meant for it to sound that bad. The email from Jon Gruden denigrating Mr. Smith is appalling, abhorrent, wholly contrary to the NFL his values NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said we condemned the statement and regret any harm that its publication may inflict on Mr. Smith or anyone else. And then Gruden, of course starts with you know, the excuses. He goes I'm transparent with my players. He said that might not have been the best time of my life referring to when the email was sent. He was like I vented a lot. I never felt we were getting the truth and honestly, I just felt that former executive director gene Upshaw never would have let it get that far. Blah, blah, blah. And then of course Smith go this is not the first racist comment that I've heard, and probably He will not be the last. This is a thick skinned job for everyone with dark skin just like it always has been for many people who look like me and work in corporate America you know people are sometimes saying things behind your back that are racist. Just like you see talk. You see people talk and write about you using thinly coated and racist language anyway, is Jon Gruden racist for saying that? No, it has Michelin's lips the size of Michelin tires

Anthony:

No, he just he just hides behind the racist comments and comes out and tries to defend this bullshit by saying I was going through a hard time I was in a whatever place so on and so forth aren't I understand that and I'm saying that people go through things I'm clearly whatever but if you're in a particular mindset and you're angry there are way other ways Intel salt somebody it's not that hard and call them a decade you call them a NASA call them a motherfucker you do a lot of other things. But the fact that he turned into like physical characteristics and we tend to be very particular about that when it comes to the black community that even though you said it he act like he didn't know what it means we know exactly what you meant when you said it. So do I think is racist at the time? Yeah, do I think he's had some kind of come up and for sure. I think he shouldn't be apologizing everybody should be contacting him speaking to Mr. Swift directly. Let me know as a different time to complete that 10 years ago. Everything I've done so far, I'm not necessarily that person unless you can show me otherwise. And do I need to go and learn some things about myself? is a race at the time. Sure, because you're trying to take a physical characteristic of a black man and try to make a joke out of it. Is it something that should be concerned about now if his behavior change then absolutely not. Why people's got to calm the fuck down substantially like you can curse? It's okay. You ain't got to do this whole I was feeling kind of way or I was drinking No, no, you're trying to make no excuse to subjugate you bullshit. Don't do that. Speak your mind. Say what it was at that time and say what you are now just to make it clear they do this every single time to get caught up with a racist shit. They make an excuse they came to see like yeah, that was fucking racist. And I should have said it was like I was drinking while I was angry. No, no, no, don't do that. If that's what you were speaking honestly, at the time speak honestly now. Stop making excuses about the thing that you saying you do. Just admit them. Find your fault. Move forward.

Jeff:

I hit okay. Now the other story, Trevor Noah was making light of it on The Daily Show about the racist neighbors. Black family moves into the house then you have the neighbors playing monkey sounds every time they come out or yellow now Wow, shit. Let me just let you hear Trevor Noah piece from the Daily Show, and he'll get into it.

Unknown:

These days, we talk a lot about systemic racism, and how subtle discrimination is baked into all levels of society. But it's important to remember that America is not all like that. There's also very obvious one on one racism. So imagine moving your family into your dream home to start a new life only to find yourself subjected to non stop harassment from your new neighbor. That's what a black family in Virginia Beach has been living with. They describe an escalating campaign of racial slurs, laugh music, and monkey noises

Jeff:

felt like you're playing so far.

Unknown:

Away from the word guy whenever we step out of our house the monkey noises was starts so racist and it's disgusting like I don't even know how to explain it The minute I opened my front door, his lights blank or my music or my song comes on vocal police say while the behavior is appalling it is not criminally actionable.

Jeff:

Are you shitting me please into a shit about it. I

Unknown:

can't even believe that this is a real story in real life. And honestly, I actually find this kind of racism so baffling, because this guy may be playing loud music and noises to harass his neighbors but he's the one closest to the music and the loud noises like is your racism really worth it? If you can't even have a conversation in your own house? Hey, honey, I'm really glad back from a black family I'm going down I love you. And I'm sorry remember the police claiming that they can't do anything that's such bullshit. Why don't they use one of those vague laws that they charge black people with all the time like disturbing the peace or your house has a broken taillight sir but yeah, I guess some people are just assholes. And without the police on their side the Martinez family doesn't have a lot of options to stop the music and the monkey noises from playing although one thing they could do is release some actual monkeys into the neighborhood that because think about it being racist is fun to a monkey his meeting sounds next thing you know you're racist as is getting pounded by a monkey all because you didn't want black neighbors. Well,

Anthony:

but yeah,

Jeff:

that's crazy to me. Obviously they the fact that they say oh, the cops can do shit. If that shit was the other way around. No cops would be doing all types of it.

Anthony:

Because it's a noise ordinance. Not a criminal complaint is not a criminal issues. Capstone turning music down Am I given a little fine but that's it.

Jeff:

What if I take my Glock nine out and do something about crime?

Anthony:

crime right? Different that's that's aggravated assault. assault with a deadly weapon, whatever it might be. But it

Jeff:

sounded like they was playing episode of South Park. Is that what that show was? South Park is known for saying some outlandish shit and using some very driven dialogue

Anthony:

I don't fucking know. Again here goes my issue with white people. There are better ways to affine and annoy somebody. Besides playing chip sounds you can do better like your your racism is antiquated. Not in fun, like do some shit. Like you know what things that irritate people like parking in front of their house or your car slightly in front of their driveway or you pick up their mail and don't bring us like shit that would just irritate the fuck out of somebody but playing monkey sounds and everything else like that it just an antiquated form of racism they just think that it's funny if their house happens to accidentally burn down I'm not saying that it would but if it did, you can't necessarily look at me like they're the ones would always shit plugged up and play and all the loud noise might have been some electrical. I don't know. I would probably say you shouldn't do some further investigation on that racing side of the fence so I'm not encouraged to get the word out there the words go burn the house down never came out of my mouth. I just said if it happened to burn down there are some people that might be culpable in this bullshit. Not necessarily them. But it might be the family that's there now I'm going to naturally assume that these neighbors that move in happened to be white. Yes. Okay. Yeah. All right. So if you're playing chimp sounds and you have nothing to do with like getting kind of nature junk will kind of theming your life just doing shit just to be funny, which everyone assuming throwing banana is going to be coming soon after that. They're pretty much racist assholes and you need to get out of that neighborhood. I don't know how you can like reverse engineer to frustrate you that there is a way but I wouldn't suggest it like I would just get like the biggest speakers possible. And play Wu Tang and like definitely levels of like loud which song would you play? who think planning all that protect

Jeff:

your net repeat your best protect your neck

Anthony:

to back and forth back and forth? All day smoke on my like smoke and go for it to the Hellraiser

Jeff:

and then I'll just gradually I keep scratching the milk the hell razor razor. razor hair wake up neighborhood

Anthony:

Spider Man neighborhood Spider Man Tick Tock keep ticking police combined so let me turn it down I've turned it down let's please gonna turn it right on back up. I get some noise cancelling headphones walk around my house clean watch TV do whatever I got to do like you're not going out loud black people trust me you can give it a go but

Jeff:

the remix to the shed new black neighbors ain't no fuckwit

Anthony:

like I'd like I would get like a big blue flag and put in my front yard just put it right in the grass like right next to the Black Black Power flag. But it'd be Black Lives Matters in the within the EU flag flying in the breeze like this ain't the property for you. I'm telling you right now I'm literally planting a flag I'm gonna fuck you up. But it's a racist show. Absolutely. Now next week because I know you didn't fucking watch it. We're going to talk about a Dave Chappelle thing.

Jeff:

I watched half of it last night I fell asleep Yeah, we

Anthony:

got to finish it you got to finish it then we'll have a whole discussion on it because people are tripping too about his some of his comments and that's why I said you got to finish it and then we can talk about it right? They would have had a conversation cuz I know it's a lot to like unpack is one of the things that I don't think Dave's wrong but when we get a chance we'll go ahead and we'll get to it but we'll do that again. But I know we got something else we need to get into because we got time I know you want to go ahead and do your little Hello, what do you call them? Got your top five Who's your honorable mention?

Jeff:

Well, I'm not we're not I'm not there yet though.

Anthony:

You heard fuck up. Cuz I'm excited to hit a bush. You're gonna tell me.

Jeff:

Now we're gonna we're gonna get into it after the break. But first. I want to get into that. And the story of this week is the 18 former NBA players that got caught trying to try to finesse the league with the insurance fraud. Fuck those guys. 18 former NBA players arrested and charged federally for defrauding the NBA his health and welfare benefit plan out of approximately $4 million. First of all $4 million to split into 18 play that's not even enough like how broke all these do let me give you the names that he's doing if you don't mind because somebody goes like we're you know, important pieces back in the day to their teams. Milk velocio trash Sebastian Telfair and toine right. darious miles Reuben Patterson Eddie Robinson Gregory Smith, Glen Davis jamario Moon Terrence Williams, Alan Anderson, Tony Allen. Shannon brown William buying them Melvin Ely Christopher Douglas Roberts and Tony Rowan, our former Nick Tony Rolling anyways, like how broke all these dues that there was overhead lion and creating false, you know, reports one of the dues came out with a receipt that he had done like all types of work on his mouth like dental work 1000s and 1000s of dollars of dental work and he handed in the receipt to the league to get reimbursed and they kept doing that I don't know how he was getting you know, they were manufacturing the fucking receipts or whatever the federal prosecutors allege ex NBA player Terrence Williams orchestrated a scheme and recruited other players in the health plan by offering fake invoices. He allegedly got 230,000 and kickbacks. like Yo, are these guys broke I mean, you weren't a former NBA player even a lot of these guys were like, you know, bench players even then you're these you're still a millionaire. You know, I'm saying technically you still you play long enough in the league. Some of those guys got championships, they played on championship teams. At one point or another and your career you were a millionaire. Now you're relegated to insurance fraud. And it wasn't like there was making all types of money. It was a total of $4 million that they scammed illegal.

Anthony:

breeds motherfucker. That's nothing. Not really because you gotta remember, the moment you stopped playing, you ain't getting no more checks. That's it. Like, like, I like it's almost like art. Let's say you have a guy who made $40 million a year right? Yeah, he's not making 40 he's actually making 20 because half of that is already taxed away, then it's there. I think that like each individual state that you play through this, like a little tax goes along with that. So the 40 you're gonna get you're not getting all of it outside of shit you got to buy for yourself. But the moment you stop playing basketball, you're not getting $40 million a year no more. I can tell you like in five minutes, you got like some kind of endorsement, you asked out so hopefully you manage your money smartly and so on and so forth. These guys weren't stars like, like I said, Glenn Davis, and he made 8,000,002 they only made four. I started all the bullshit on top of that, who the fuck knows, but it shouldn't be the fraud in the system, especially the NBA, the NFL, I can see how it could be an issue with the CTE and everything else that kind of goes along with it. But the whole problem quite simply is with the NBA like it's a it's a league that's dominated by African Americans is it's a league that they've been pretty much fair with everything going on in regards to it. Now these dudes want to hustle the compensation out of it. I don't feel no sympathy towards him. Clinton Clinton portis used to play for the Washington Redskins in the Denver Broncos he did the same shit. They did the same shoe with a bunch of other ex players doing the whole thing the false claims and anything I said that his ass but to go to prison to the whole thing is like this is something to help you support you beyond the end of your career. The fact is you want to take advantage of that for the sense of profit and a small win at that is pretty fucked up. Like why would you do that now like the NBA never had this kind of issue now you're creating an issue out of nothing. So in all honesty, Man, fuck those guys. You know,

Jeff:

and they stupid as hell check us out among the false reimbursement claims described in the indictment as a $19,000 claim that Williams filed for chiropractic services he allegedly never had, and for which he received $7,272 in reimbursement. He also allegedly obtained the template for fake invoice designed to appear as if it had been issued by the office. Check us out fake our practice treatment invoices were allegedly also created for Davis Watson Jr. and write an email to Williams the template had the date invoice number services in charge of 15,000 filed in but left the bill to box where the name of the patient would ordinarily be found blank. Let's see when it was accused of me mailing those fake invoices to other defendants named Indian dykeman Baba blah. According to the court documents several of the fake invoices and medical necessity form stood out because they're not on letterhead. They contain unusual formatting they have grammatical errors and were sent on the same dates from different offices.

Anthony:

It was one that I read about well one guy said he's doing dental work but he was actually playing overseas at the time

Jeff:

he wasn't even in the country bro during your like if you want to do some stupid shit at least like you know i mean Don't be stupid about it. Like Jesus Christ man. First of all how long how poverty Can you be how homeless and broken you be? And second of all, how dumb Can you be to try to get away with some shit like this?

Anthony:

Remember for when I was talking about like a guy's take homeless? Yeah. Alright, cuz I remember I remember reading this in an article not too long ago. So what year was this? This article was written in 2017. It was here that said Steph Curry's net gross was $34 million, right? Yeah, 3 million went to the escrow 11 million with the federal taxes 4 million went to city and state taxes. $900,000 went to an agent 18,000 went to a 401k account got a couple of windfalls of shortfalls after that so because 34 man after that his take home was 15 see to me, yeah, those number get real small, real fast. We

Jeff:

don't do dumb shit with your money. When you think about all the people that need support. Right? everybody on the team, they got to pay.

Anthony:

Right and like I said they got outside sources of income. So not really a big word that same year, LeBron James, his salary is $33 million. His take home was 16. Paul Millsap his gross was 30. His net was 15. So like I said, half of that should be gone. All right.

Jeff:

Before the break, y'all want to get into the ghetto word of the winner is the word that I use a lot. We both use it. That is Yo,

Anthony:

y O. Or every day. Yeah, every day.

Jeff:

According to urban dictionary, it can mean a way of saying hey, or Hi, like, yo, come here. Yo, my man, what's up? In English language yo has become a common interjection that originated decades ago. In the Philadelphia region, it is often interchangeable with the word Hey, as in Yo, what's up or Yo, wait for me. While the word can also stand alone as a greeting, like the word Hey, it also has a wide range of meanings that depend on the tone, context and situation in which it is used. In more recent times, the word has spread into hip hop or gangster culture. Yeah, so Oh, Rocky Balboa, you just used it back. You've been using it back since like the 70s when he was referring to Adrian, like, Hey, yo, Adrian. But yeah, let's take a break. We'll be back with our top five female rappers of all time.

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Jeff:

here we go man. You're ready for the top five female rappers of all time we're doing this for the ladies this month. This is Ladies Night I'm gonna let you go first because I know for a fact that one of my honorable mentions is going to be on your list I'm gonna let you start off with number five

Anthony:

little Kim's number five okay she's been one of the most important ones is going to be either her Foxy little Kim is still sort of relevant today. I'm gonna go fuck out sound despite the fact I'm not even looking at the list making

Jeff:

showing you that my little Kim is also number five on my list.

Anthony:

Okay, I'm glad we agree. I mean I have an issue with her looking like a small Asian woman out there that

Jeff:

sounds odd kind of raises Loki

Anthony:

Loki Oh Have you whatever make

Jeff:

sure like look Asian what should you say now her I want to just say now I've

Anthony:

learned that her eyes weren't that shaped her skin wasn't that color no her nose wasn't that small share her hair wasn't even like knowing her hair What do you like? She like if you compared a picture of a random older Asian woman she will look similar to her medically and if you took a picture of Kim now to where to Kim was now the like two completely different people besides

Jeff:

there's actually three different camps but if you look at her when she first started with Biggie too later on she started getting a little bit of cosmetic surgery on the face this inand the nose starts getting smaller the cheekbones start getting different to now it's like a new hire different person. Alright, she's my number is

Anthony:

small Asian lady might have been a little bit written but maybe slightly racist. Probably so. If it is she's like a small house cat. Let's put it that way. But that doesn't. That doesn't diminish what she's done for hip hop in her career in hip hop at all.

Jeff:

I always thought she was better than Foxy. Everybody at the time big had her NAS had Foxy buster. Had Rod digga everybody's everybody who seem to have I guess Wu Tang was like one of the only crews that didn't have they had that one chick raspberry

Anthony:

but she was a singer. If it wouldn't fit right right it's only a crew of nine men right? It doesn't work

Jeff:

there. There would have been all types of sexual assault charges 20 years later but anyway yeah, that's like bras

Anthony:

so did someone go into prison after all this shit like you know the one female woman remember Whoo,

Jeff:

Snoop Dogg and a dog pound they had rage it seemed like every click had a shorty Eva a woman but not all of them. I felt like little Kim was better than all of those chicks. Okay, so she's number five let me give you my two honorable mentions. Sure I get mad at me real quick one of them and it was hard for me to omit this one from this list because you know how I feel about this chick left I and Lisa left eye Lopes has cared for me she was a great rapper and but she's not as good as the five that are on the actual list and this one was hard to leave off because she's a legend MC like

Anthony:

okay, I'm not gonna put your list I'm never gonna forget Yeah, neither one of them are on my list.

Jeff:

Okay, there you go. I thought him for some reason I thought MC light would be on your shit because you know just because he's a legend in I mean, it cuz she paved the way for a lot of females.

Anthony:

She was until I thought about this right? She wasn't okay, so so we both both had the same craft. So what's your flack

Jeff:

for is Remy Ma, formerly known as Remy Martin. Okay, until the liquor went after her, and she had to change her name to Remy Ma. I think she's out of all the chicks that are actively still rapping right now. I think she's the best of all of them. I think she's better than Nicki Minaj You know, I'm saying out of the ones that are out there. I don't want to say the ones that are rapping because a lot of girls that are rapping that we might not even know about, but are the ones that are mainstream. Does that sound better? The ones that are still, you know, up there. We saw her last week come out with Fat Joe in the vs shit and she was killing it on stage. To me. She was the best part of the whole verses. I think she's really nice. I'm gonna assume she writes her own lyrics. It's still up in the air whether her husband Paphos writes some ownership for her. Because if he does I will I will change it but if

Anthony:

he I don't think he does because because the thing is that when you when you go sorry for somebody, you tend to flavor your you're delivering flow.

Jeff:

They will not necessarily if you're a good ghost writer like even Jay Lucas has said this because he goes written for Diddy. His goal is written for a lot of people. He said the hardest part is making sure that you don't sound like yourself. You got to make it sound like them. You know, I'm saying like something that they would say, right? I mean, so that was that's what makes you a good ghost writer. So I'm assuming she writes her own shit. If she does then respect, she's nice, you know, Big Pun, discovered her. He put her on. And then Fat Joe, of course has now taken her to the next level. She's my number four,

Anthony:

grandma. Okay, my number four is Lauryn Hill.

Jeff:

Get the fuck out of here. Fine. Fine. Is your list. I can't get mad at your list

Anthony:

Alex I explained I explained it's not to say that Lauren can rap she absolutely can. She really Hola Hola.

Jeff:

Let me just make sure I understand you're referring to where are we referring to the same Miss Lauryn Hill? The most successful solo female rapper of all time? Sure. So the more albums Has anybody she's gone diamond or one of them and have one album, Diamond mature. Okay, cool. Okay, I'm just I'm just taking what just talking I'm just making sure I'm talking about the same as Laura who put out the MIS education, which is regarding problems of all time.

Anthony:

And what did she do after that?

Jeff:

That's not what we're talking about, though. We're talking about Best Female rappers. This is not the rep who has the biggest run list or who has the best albums look, most albums list. debut album,

Anthony:

no, but but you throw out numbers. I didn't I didn't throw it out, right? Because if we're saying rappers Lauryn Hill's is not a better rapper than Bahama. Dear Lord. He's not a better rapper than Jean Grey. Neither one of them on my list is

Jeff:

there. I'm on my list either. Right? But we're talking about everything, not only lyricism, but we're talking about what they meant to the culture. We're talking about their success and longevity, everything. Yeah. And she just reminded us with NAS on the NAS, his recent album that just came out, she just reminded us of how good she is, does she not? Yeah,

Anthony:

but it took her 20 plus years for her to remind us how good she is, which was she should have been dominated hip hop for the past 20 years. She decided to say Nah, I'm out. And when she came back, like she still has, she never lost it. She was always going to be Miss Lauryn Hill. That was never going to change. But the fact that she dropped this project, and then disappeared off the face of the earth, but between the personal problems on the fourth, which I'm not going to hold against her, but we're going to make this list she can't rank higher with her. Her level of accomplishments just doesn't pale in comparison to the three that's going to be above her.

Jeff:

Okay, that's it. Sorry, what's your three?

Anthony:

My number three is Nicki Minaj.

Jeff:

Okay, my number three and I respect that. I acknowledge how nice she is Nicki. Fortunately, she doesn't make me feel there. I get it. I can understand you having her I can understand you even having her one or two on the list. My three is so rock. And she could have easily been higher on this list for me, because you know how I feel about just bars. And sometimes that clouds my judgment when I just judged, you know, just based on that one dimension. If we're talking about just strictly spin, spin Cyrus iraq might be better than everybody on this list and that's arguable

Anthony:

you're not really sure

Jeff:

it's like it's like doing a top five list and be like well Pharaoh mines like you know we just heard Professor lyrical last week say that Pharaoh munches his favorite of all time. You can argue that federal mines is probably better than anybody that'll be on hourly he won't be on our list but you can understand why somebody would put him you know what I'm saying?

Anthony:

But you can say that about voice you can say it about absolutely because he said about a loop a lot of guys like that and she's one of the people that's like right where the whole thing is like as a rapper rapper. The best part about what you just did is that someone's going to be forced to look around and have no idea who the fuck she is.

Jeff:

And they're going to find out that she has like 10 albums in the past decades. And they're all nice.

Anthony:

You know what it is? Is the path boosting like you're like you've been dropping out very much but like you know what even Roy

Jeff:

Roy is like people know who Roy says because of his connection to him and them but people are not probably actively looking for Roy's shit gonna check I'm sort of saying they're not really check it but they know he's nice and Black Dog black dogs suffer from that too. I think like everybody knows black thought is nice, but nobody's putting black.on the top when maybe he should be

Anthony:

unless you're a hip hop head it's hard to separate black thought from the roots it's like their hand in hand and says black thought never really had like a solo project. It's

Jeff:

like I got no basis it's always the root shit and you're the main guy wrapping up but I've never asked somebody what's their top and they've told me a black dog but when you mentioned black now they'll be like, Oh yeah, you know, we'll make Black Dog because he's like automatic. He's like a he's like a cheat sheet. You know? He's like a cheat code. Like Yes, assume blackdot Yeah, he's on a different level. I know some people that won't put nazar Jay Z on their ship or even to papa Biggie because they're just assume that they're already up there so I'm just gonna omit them from that list. You know, I mean,

Anthony:

yeah, definitely. That's one of the things you got to even got to know your audience like if you know someone's like a backpack hip hop, boom bap head, they're probably not gonna have certain people up there. It's like this is part of the game with them. Like they, they listen to them, but they're not feeling them or analyzing their lyrics or they're doing you know, the other guys that we spoke of, so so soft rock is your three Nikki's my three so what's your two?

Jeff:

My two is the queen. Queen Latifah straight out of Jersey saying okay, she could be higher on the list you can also be lower on the list but you can't deny her impact and what she's meant to the culture. She can't

Anthony:

be she can't be any height and number two, if we have the same number one she can't be hiding them but no, we don't have to say number one. Okay, my number one was like your number four but oh this nicus trick All I know is I'm hanging up No no. Dog Okay, no, no, no, we're gonna discuss whatever to do. I'm gonna call bullshit and anything else you just say go ahead continue

Jeff:

what I'm saying about the queen is like I compare her sort of to like ice cube. You know how Ice Cube was one of the first rappers to like really make it big in Hollywood. You know, I mean to branch out Yeah. And queen is like the vert the female version of that, you know, she was clear on the on the sitcom on the TV sitcom. And then she did movies. She's in the movie. You know what I mean with Jada Pinkett and all of them. And now she's on it. But now she has like her own TV show. It was the was that share with the Denzel movie spin off? The Equalizer? Yes. So now she's the equalizer. You know, I mean, and she's nice on the mic.

Anthony:

Yeah, absolutely. You know,

Jeff:

like women and equality you and i, t, y and all of that.

Anthony:

Everything that Queen Latifah has now is purely built off hip hop. It wasn't from an outside career or maybe she was like a cute model who happen to know how to rap or she just was good at this or X, Y and Z or haven't been around the right people know, her career. Her TV shows her talk show her movies was based purely upon her presence in hip hop itself. And they saw what kind of brilliant talented women she was and showed that she had integrity she had character she has spirit she built everything off of that outside effect as she said she can wrap her ass off she's a queen for reason. That's what anyone else who really comes with that title with a woman who names I think is a rapidly like Queen Nadia like be real particularly want to put that crown on because it's only built from one person that's latifi

Jeff:

right? Like even little Kim was the queen bee. You know what I mean? Right?

Anthony:

But she but she was showing Queen Kim? Right, right. Not Queen Kim.

Jeff:

Yeah, when you're gonna call yourself king or queen or anything like that God prince or anything like that. You got to make sure you go back that shit up.

Anthony:

Right when I cut my finger comb so King, like clumps of King Kendrick like, okay, you earned that right? I get it. I get it. But when

Jeff:

he did say I'm the king in New York, everybody came after him. And that's what he wanted. You know, he wanted to get people to notice, but you got to know that's what comes with it. So she's my number one is Lauren here. I don't know why you're surprised. I don't know why you're surprised about this. I mean, you know how I feel about Lauryn Hill. You know, to the note to me, I'm not I understand she doesn't drop now for 20 years. I understand. She sold her shows at two in the morning. I understand. I understand all of the arguments. I'm gonna listen to her fujis music when you listen to miss education, when you listen to all her friends. song that she has the best verse in every feature song The she just did not she killed it was just a reminder of her skills. One feature there's no doubt bro there's no don't give me one feet I'm just saying throughout her career when she's she has multiple features with NAS you know I'm saying we got the 240s album and she's the best thing in the entire album. The score classic hip hop album she's the best singer on there, she's the best rapper on there. You can't even deny that Miss education Lauryn Hill is regarded as one of the best hip hop albums of all time. Probably the top five hip hop album of all time when you're five down. Got Lauryn Hill number one. Let's see for two so rock three Remy for a little campfire. We both had la Tifa and Kim at the same spots.

Anthony:

Your list is disrespectful cut this person should be number one in the super easy. Oh, missy.

Jeff:

No and I thought about missy. Maybe it may be by far Oh, I don't know man.

Anthony:

I never liked it missy. Missy is the only one that people want to versus when they can't find a female rapper her to go with me but that has

Jeff:

nothing to do with that that has nothing to do with the bars though that has to do with her production. She has Timberland she has the machine behind her she got all kinds of beats and all kinds of club bangers all kinds of hits it's about hits and that's what versus his hits for hits.

Anthony:

And she and she stays rapping she says just because you know how to like she stays rap and she's still relevant Yeah, she's an honorable mention. Versus that's disrespectful you seriously named me one female rapper on this list right now that can go 2420 with her right now

Jeff:

the same list the one who got the most hits No,

Anthony:

it doesn't matter but like I said the hit show a particular level of longevity like how long have you been doing this? And I'm not talking about the shipments you produce. I'm just talking about the shit she wrapped on likes it I think people get missing fucked up because they see Timberland producers you know he

Jeff:

got all the hottest beats get you're gonna get a freak on like I'm not checking for missing bars bro I'm not checking for Missy Elliott here

Anthony:

you can produce the absolute fuck out of an album if you do not flow of it. That record is shit that's the problem like you could produce the like like Kanye you really

Jeff:

consider the really considered Missy the top rapper female rapper like when it comes to rapping yes yes cuz cuz she can rap with anybody doesn't have any memorable bars to me though bro.

Anthony:

I feel the wind 5678 910 I tend see no heels like Lauren to the rain starts coming down poor man Really? Like say it's a dumb fuck you want to spend some bar for bar shit like like I said we've had this conversation somebody who the fuck is the rock and you work

Jeff:

with it? Yes, but they got a lash our OC they need to go look because she's dope. And she will eat you say she will eat Missy Elliott on the microphone. When you think the rock I'm thinking of liquor, I write the rock. Ci RLC This is sa orosi you go look her up, listen to her music, and you're gonna instantly understand why she's probably the best lyrically the best female rapper of all time. And Missy to me is not worthy of being on this list. She got hits. Yeah, yeah, you're right on a versus battle. She probably drugs, drugs on your own drugs. Stop doing drugs versus battle. I don't do drugs and a versus battle. Yes, you're right. She has more hits than any girl on here. And I would argue I would argue that Lauryn Hill can probably go toe to toe with Honda versus if they let her play over Fuji music, and her miseducation music I think she'll have 20 tracks that she could compete with Missy with but on a microphone but not on a microphone

Anthony:

she's on the track with nice and attract with Jason on track with every male rapper Missy every like I said, if you're not nice you not

Jeff:

everybody I understand that. And she's not good at what she's not saying. When a song with not saying she's trash, but when I want to listen and maybe we're listening to different things you probably want to listen to production of beats and shit. When I listen to hip hop I want to listen to the lyric that's probably why I'm a big NAS fan people that all his beats are trash Okay, I'm listening for the lyrics No. And when I'm listening to female rappers I'm listening to the lyrics it's no different than when I'm listening to a male rapper and when I'm listening to these rappers I'm not checking for Missy Elliott lyrics is it wherever they can you work it and put the thing down flip it and reverse it I'm not listening for that I'm listening bars

Anthony:

but you know word for word.

Jeff:

I'm not saying it was a dope and catchy I understand that you know I'm saying I know

Anthony:

he has his on Nikki's literally inclusion on this entire list is based upon that mind

Jeff:

I'm listen when I'm listening to Lauryn Hill I'm listening for the livery I played my enemies like a game of chess where I've rest no stress you don't smoke says less. I must confess my destinies manifest with some gore tex and sweats. I make tracks like I'm homeless.

Anthony:

Bar he would have dirty dirty backpack Dude, I get you there.

Jeff:

Though his lyrics that I want to hear I don't want to hit him bullshit. Missy has a lot of bullshit but it's behind is backed up by great production. beats and hit these are hitting these are radio friendly hit song like You know no I'm not taking that away from that yes she has more hits than anybody on here she's probably sold more records than anybody on this list everything she's more successful has more money again all of that

Anthony:

yeah but but to say it like like busted don't make hard songs you remember his shit to

Jeff:

your boss wasa is also not on anybody's list Buster is also not on your top five he's not on my top five

Anthony:

no no but he'll be my top 20 easily

Jeff:

yeah he probably been a tough one easily and I know a bunch of his his and yeah he could do a vs and he'll have he'll come with 20 tracks and he could probably beat anybody yeah like he's not the first person that comes up to my

Anthony:

dentist lyrics right into why that wasn't so rock I hit it with Lauryn Hill. Even though she has it She's literally heavy holding her body

Jeff:

told you I got so rock at three and she could have easily been higher on my list. You could have been one or two on this list, but I try to factor in other things too.

Anthony:

And I don't know if I can everything about Missy Elliott her ability to rock her ability to say it's okay really to put it because he quickies a song together. No Okay no and female hip hop can can do what she does. Okay,

Jeff:

do you think she bar for bar lyricist? Do you think she's better than everybody on his list?

Anthony:

Outside of Nikki and Queen? No. You know what? Outside No,

Jeff:

she better than better rapper than Lauren Who? know okay, but you have her higher on your list of top rap female rappers. Okay, is she a better singer than Lauryn Hill?

Anthony:

It's not a fair comparison. But no not many people are again you

Jeff:

have her higher than Lauryn Hill on your list of top female rappers. And you just admitted that not A Better Rapper nor a better singer than Lauryn Hill.

Anthony:

And who is more relevant who's made better music

Jeff:

is not the list of most relevant female rappers we did you can I get it I get that in you can factor that in your your

Anthony:

shooting your argument of foot because she's not a better lyricist than your number three. she's proud. Lauren got a better listen to you. Number three. Lauren, probably not a better lyricist. No a better singer than your number two because your your your singer well number two. She got Yes, she got a fucking Oscar.

Jeff:

Grammy.

Anthony:

She got a Grammy and she got nominated for Emmy for for her playing. I think Marina and Toubro right 20 fucking years ago, this whole thing about the relevance like what have you done from that point forward to move the culture forward? Tell me outside of reverse you dropped this year. From mis education to that what has she done to move the culture forward compared to

Jeff:

drop the unplugged album MTV Unplugged

Anthony:

she just did it with a guitar in front of it is the same goddamn shit. What does he does his mis education to this one one verse on that gap a period of time has she done to move the culture forward compared to Missy

Jeff:

again, but again, there's different things that you factor into the list lyric and what they've done for the culture longevity success these are all things that I factored in to me Lauryn Hill was lyrically better than everybody on my list is why she's number one if we're talking about success she's the highest selling female rapper of all time

Anthony:

and she's broke cuz she's broke she had to get the money right

Jeff:

you broke oh shit i know you don't pay Uncle Sam

Anthony:

hey hey man tax man come do like I said it's not that like I said if you took five categories lower be a plus on one and a plus in another than the others it might be like c c minus with beat with with Missy is pretty much A's or B's up and down a column that's why she ranks so far ahead like said she's still so relevant today like it's not many people fucking went missing period I mean it's hard to say right not like a cookie might not be bad lyrical miracle type but she could still rock and that's what I look might have been a great singer but she's still

Jeff:

saying I look for lyrics when I'm listening to rap music.

Anthony:

Fair enough. I'm not arguing but because I believe that Missy should be on this list the fact you have an honorable mention is wild to me

Jeff:

a lot of people would argue a lot of people's gonna argue with me that MC light should be on the list

Anthony:

alright they've been put like this who's who's more who should be more likely to be on this list into letter Missy Elliott.

Jeff:

Missy and missy. Missy has been relevant lavar longer than MC light has been relevant.

Anthony:

Right? It was like it to bridge that gap between Latif and light to get to like the Nicki cardi

Jeff:

who may run down your five again. You got Missy at one Queen at two

Anthony:

misses one Queen at two. Nikki at three loaner for a little kid my five

Jeff:

Lauren Nikki okay yeah Nikki So who would you take out? So I got Lauren Queen Sol rock Remy and little Kim like who would even take out to put Missy in bro. Like I'm not taking out Lauren I can't take out Queen Remy. You could probably take me

Anthony:

And the thing about Remy It's not her fault because Remy would jail for a little while right and really,

Jeff:

but then she got out and tearing it up still.

Anthony:

Right murder, the whole thing on that battle. Right? But I think she like main care because Nikki still alive and kicking. That's the hook. Like when you when you put somebody in the ground like the whole gymnastics was always stupid because like it's like if you gotta they gotta matter what you have no one's gonna think she got behind

Jeff:

it's not like you're murdering cannabis and so he's done because you don't really got nobody backing him you know, like Nate NAS and Jay really killed them they got machines behind them Nikki has cash money behind her you don't I mean Remy has the whole temper squad and Fat Joe machine behind them and the DJ Khaled machine I assume and

Anthony:

I still feel that if they didn't call it off push it would have killed Drake yeah yeah, somehow so I'm not like it would have been game over for Drake because that first one was like oh you got more after this? Oh fuck, like I think that would have been like exposing all the shit about drinking that's what he probably did it. That probably would have went a different way but it didn't but most time when it happens, these beefs don't last long the thing we're heard Nikki was like alright, it happened the fucked up part about Nikki is that she's creating her own like cancellation to all the dumb shit she's saying. Like if she if you go into further she gonna be off this list she keeps talking about swollen testicles and COVID and world is nuts. Yeah, I'm triggered to be not literally Yeah,

Jeff:

that was our Ladies Night episode. This is ladies month here on the culture. Thank you for tuning in. Go holla at us on social media go click on all the links. And we'll see ya next week. Luck we'll go get

Anthony:

your mammogram. Peace

rap music playing:

Ladies Night - Lil Kim featuring Angie Martinez, Left Eye, Da Brat and Missy Elliott