Fugeela - NJ’s Greatest Rappers

Jeff: 0:47

Yo, thank you for tuning in to another episode of the culture. This is Episode 57 this is your boy Jeff. I'm here with my man Anthony was good homie

Anthony: 0:56

going on everybody.

Jeff: 0:57

This is gonna be this is a special episode. Um, first of all, you know we're in the middle of Hurricane Henry was actually a tropical storm Henry now So, you know we're live and direct from the trouble scene you're about to get hit with the double team actually it's a triple team, but we'll get to that. But first and foremost, let me just give a shout out to our patrons and fuck it. I'm gonna go with government names this week. So I'm gonna shout out Melissa Camacho you get a shout out. Danny Alexander the black robe bless you get a shout out. Eric Grant causa ro Blais. You get a shout out. Natasha Dela Rosa, you get a shout out so you get a shout out you get a shout. Everybody gets a shout out. Yo, am I missing anybody? patrons? I think that's it right? Nah, actually. We have a new Patreon this person is resident guests and our special guests today on today's episode. We're gonna Welcome back. Mikey Michael sheeter. was good, homie. Oh, hey, guys. Thanks for having me back.

Mikey: 2:08

Oh, I've been Jeff and I were discussing this before we started recording I've just been running around trying to escape everything the world scary right now, man, it's better in the woods. Shear. So

Jeff: 2:18

we appreciate you know, joining our Patreon team. We got a lot of exclusive content that's coming your way man for for our patrons. But um, what do we got? Jeff, tell

Mikey: 2:28

me what's coming up

Jeff: 2:29

at atrium? Oh, no, we're gonna have our NAS versus Jay Z versus if I could get add to participate in that because I'm sure he's gonna want to do Jay Z. And I'm gonna love us. We also have coming up in the future we got DJ Premier, versus with a havoc from Mobb Deep. And we got some music that I'm gonna put up on there like some original ship. But, uh, like it. Yeah, today's episode I want to we're going to do I mean, we're obviously me and Hannah, both born and raised in Jersey. We're out of Jersey. This show is recorded in Jersey. So we're doing our top five greatest rappers out of New Jersey. So that's gonna be today's episode. We also obviously have a new get a word of the week. But first I want to talk a little bit about some trending topics. Yeah, heard about this milk crate challenge. You seen them videos online? Facebook, Twitter.

Anthony: 3:26

I don't know what that is. You ain't see. I know you've seen that shit. They can never get past the fourth grade.

Jeff: 3:31

Now I saw one video where the dude makes it and he's rolling a blunt the entire time he goes up.

Anthony: 3:38

Like he's really easily packing a blunt walking up step by step like

Jeff: 3:42

he comes down and finishes on the final step and his boys are like screaming and dapping him up and lighting the ship for him. Look that shit up Mike and like these new I'm looking at milk crate challenge. They said okay, crates and you're off balance. Dude usually fall by the time they get to the middle one at the top. They just what they asked him to do is break the Rams. Face plant.

Anthony: 4:01

It's always the fourth when they get to the fourth point, it just gives out in this false I

Jeff: 4:04

like it. But yeah, you gotta be a skinny dude. But you have these big guys who's trying to be on the ship. The ship is not stable for you.

Anthony: 4:10

The whole thing is who thought of this like, wait to get out these milk crates from

Jeff: 4:15

no one else? That was a question. That was the question. I was about to ask the million dollar question. Where are these milk crates coming from? Like, are they robbing bodegas and shit?

Mikey: 4:22

Yeah. Was this all started by a chiropractor. Half of these dudes just falling and hurting their backs on the

Jeff: 4:29

bus and they asked to do

Mikey: 4:32

so they mean so every time they make it up like a pyramid.

Jeff: 4:35

Yeah. Then you get to the top and you come down the other side. I've only seen one person do the whole thing though.

Anthony: 4:40

That's the whole thing. They never make it safe. It was like first a blunt roll and made it up while rolling up at the same time.

Mikey: 4:46

It's like It's like how drunk drivers like make it out of like accidents and stuff. He was just like, I'm so chill that this isn't gonna even mess with me. Wow, these are some really good crashes on this road. Wouldn't be when

Jeff: 4:59

shit likes and followers online. I

Anthony: 5:02

don't know. If you want the Olympics to give you like a medal like so. I mean, you get a shout out or comments. You get like, like a quarter water some chips or something like Olympics. Some skim milk. Look, man. I mean, it's a lot of people doing this a lot of crates like where you're getting stuff increase from like, just drop the milk off. like, yo, we need to take your crates because we want to do something with delay. But like what like

Jeff: 5:28

who's donating crates, yo so they could go viral?

Anthony: 5:33

It's going into a back alley somewhere. But yeah, I was mad crease back here. Yo, turn bring the car like just for y'all to walk. Like Okay, so once I'm done with it, what do you do with these crates? Do you like take them home and pack shit inside of it like

Jeff: 5:43

it's 100% it's 100% positive that these crates All from like a bodega because if you notice, all these videos are like should there always Spanish muhfuckas or black folk, you know, doing this in the hood somewhere like they're coming from bodegas guarantee?

Mikey: 5:58

Is this just I mean, is this all leading into our segwaying into the fact that this is a hip hop podcast, and it's these guys are all just going to go and fill those crates with records after this, or milk for me when I was a little kid, and I was like, trying, you know, and I was like, starting to collect some records, stealing some from my parents going and getting some of the thrift store. I was always on the hunt for milk crates, because it was super cool. You could put your records in there and feel legit.

Jeff: 6:22

I grew up right next to a bodega. I'm sure it will be all outside or in the garbage. Right outside. I could just take them when it's

Mikey: 6:28

not like they take up with no room. Like what kind of car do you have to have to get that many crates you have to do seven trips to the bodega to rob them.

Jeff: 6:36

I used to take them shifts to like use them as like rings and steel cages to reuse for my extra fingers. Nice. I was playing with my wrestlers with the craziest shit. Yo, Mike, I don't know if you heard the last episode we were talking about, like the verses and all of that. Totally. And did you hear about Damon Wayans? He challenged? Dave Chappelle you want to do the first comedy versus battle?

Anthony: 7:00

Yeah, I heard of that. But I don't know how that's gonna work.

Jeff: 7:02

That's I'm saying like, you just take turns thing and jokes.

Anthony: 7:04

Like you got two minutes to get off a bit, then you go ahead and get to the other bit like I don't I get the interest in it and trying to be different, but like, how does that work? I've been thinking Wait, but nothing really clicks, the only way they're gonna have a laugh a meter.

Jeff: 7:19

The only way to me that that would work is that they have to come out with new material. So each comedy each committee is gonna have to come out with you know, 20 or 30 minutes of material and take turns. You know, you go five minutes and say, Good job, then I'll go you know, mean, and just take turns because otherwise what they're gonna do go up there and just play material that we already seen on Netflix, or on HBO specials You understand? Like,

Mikey: 7:38

Wayne's punching up their bet, huh? Oh, no, Damon Wayans is funny, man. He's funny, but Dave Chappelle is ridiculous. Yeah, he's

Jeff: 7:46

on the floor with him. What else is trending? Oh, yeah. And this is probably gonna go because I also have a new segment of his This is that racist? So you know, you're heard about the mike Richards Jeopardy situation? Oh, yeah. You know, so he, I what I didn't know is that he was producing the show for the longest time and he made himself the new host after Elektra Beck retired. So he's the new host, they recorded all types of new episodes with him as the host. But of course, you know, Pastor coach, or they go back and they find shit from like a podcast that he did before. years ago, like, you know, 10 years ago, and then he's talking about some derogatory sheer sexist shit racist stuff. Guess what, so now he's cancelled. So now, he's no longer the host of jeopardy.

Mikey: 8:27

And it was it was he the fro it was him and then the blossom, right? Yeah. Yeah, my MBA or she's,

Anthony: 8:36

I can ever want to do it day and night. They were going to like he does a date and she does, or vice versa, whatever. So you're going to host but he wasn't gonna be like the full host like he was the daytime version of jeopardy. He do the nighttime version she would do but we're gonna see how that's gonna go. Yeah,

Jeff: 8:50

let's do a celebrity guest every episode, bro. Just do that. Right?

Anthony: 8:54

Whatever. But we're not trending that way. But the celebrity No, Hell no, because it might be somebody that's wildly probably can't

Jeff: 9:01

pull. Yeah, but you can have like cardi B one episode, you know that she'll get my ratings. You know, you have Megan the stallion one episode. You have NAS one episode and you'll have somebody else you know, Adam Sandler, whoever the fuck does have a different person every week, you know? Right. But

Anthony: 9:14

the whole thing about the game shows growing up like you remember one person like understanding Drew Carey's doing the prices right? But that's Bob Barker show. Right? Yeah. It's Bob bark. It's Pat. Say jack. It's it was the whole thing was Alex Trebek, right. Like he just picked up certain people and thing and we get guest hosts. Like I said, I mean, how many how many hosts Family Feud go through?

Jeff: 9:38

Oh, yeah. Because now they have Steve Hall read and it had a bunch of burnt white dudes. I don't even remember the name. But I know it was like every five years they would have a different one.

Mikey: 9:46

Right? I get I get the idea of having the consistency because I mean, like you said, Bob Barker. I mean, like he was kind of more of the show than the show was even like I can still picture in my head him telling me to spay and neuter my dog.

Anthony: 10:00

I ain't got no animals, but thanks, man. Appreciate it, Robert.

Jeff: 10:05

Anyway, let me get into my is that racist topic. I don't know if you heard about this Michigan police handcuffs, a black realtor and clients during house showing assuming they were thieves. And he goes I don't get how we were treated as a threat when we clearly are not. So So us police drew guns out of black real estate agent who was showing a house to his client and his teenage son who was also black after receiving a complaint from a neighbor who wrongly accused them of breaking and entering. So Eric Brown was giving a tour of the house to Roy Thorne and his 15 year old son Samuel is a suburb in Wyoming, Michigan. He saw a police officer circling the property with his son to be Wyoming Michigan. At first he thought there was a fugitive in the yard and fear that Mr. doorman By the house reported NBC knows but his concerns about selling the house soon faded with personal safety taking precedence after he saw another officer behind the tree making hand gestures and their hand code blah, blah, blah. Eventually the cops you know, released them and apologized like, Oh, my bad and the dude was like, No, bro, I'm trying to sell the house like. So. I mean, obviously, this is racist, but like, this is not the first time that we you know, we've seen some shit like this and buddy's jogging and gets pulled over or stopped because he's jogging in the neighborhood. You know? I mean, like, he looks disgusted already.

Anthony: 11:20

That's good time to white people. Man. I tell white people in a fucking nonsense, no offense, like I said, about the things that black people just cannot do in America. And they talk about No, everything's equal, everything's right. Like he is employed, his job is to sell a house. And like, say he's a realtor. So I'm pretty sure he's been there a few times, checking on the house, bringing other people to it to take a look at the property, so on and so forth. So someone decides that they're white as mine like today, have them call the cops this guy? Yeah, that's gonna do it. Like if all you're trying to do is do his job, like, we can't, we can't bike we can't run, we can't drive, we can't buy Skittles. We can't do shit without it being a question of some type of presence. While we shouldn't be here, we, if you talk about equal ownership stake in this country to a place that we built, which should be very simple, that we should be able to just go ahead and you know, sell a fucking house. Why is this hard? Why do we have to keep having these incidences? And I told you before, it's going to be week by week, we're going to keep hearing something different. But something happened to black people. And sure, I wasn't wrong. Again, this is just what we do.

Mikey: 12:22

When it's like in that situation, obviously, you know, the people are looking at the house. It's a realtor. It's just if anybody's sitting there watching them going in and out of the house looking around the house. Like it has to feel different than someone like casing the house or robbing the house. So it's only it can only be motivated by someone being freaked out by the fact that there's black people in their neighborhood. They feel threatened. They know that they can call the cops whatever it is. It's so fucking it's just such an old story. It's so boring.

Anthony: 12:49

I've known a lot of criminals man they're not walking around your neighborhood Ricky shit in broad daylight. Knows keep trucking. Nothing's gonna walk in here. Like Come on, man. Stop knocking the fuck off. I mean, you're robbing days. How often? How often did you bring a clipboard? Yeah, to keep track of the shit you stealing? Yeah.

Mikey: 13:07

I've got an inventory of all the things I'm taking from this house. Alright, so bottom line, is that racist? Yes. Have you ever had an is this racist segment where you can say no, can you just say

Jeff: 13:17

yeah, no, I think we did have one we're actually setting. I mean, I'm you know, he's the jury initially, you know? Yeah, sure. But I have another one. I know that knows about this one. Mikey probably doesn't. The jack Morris, former baseball player. He's doing commentary. Right. And you know, the foenum shohei ohtani Japanese foenum from the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. He's about to come up to bat right. And this is what jack Morris says on commentary. I'm gonna just play the clip and yeah, let me know if you think this is racist.

Unknown: 13:50

Now what do you do with shohei Otani? Keep adding better careful with the accent. Well, folks, Tony has come into play. It's been brought to my attention and I sincerely apologize if I offended anybody, especially anybody in the Asian community. For what I said about pitching and being careful to Jose shohei Otani even though I did not intend for any offensive thing, and I apologize if I did.

Jeff: 14:22

Yeah. So a lot of people in the comments were saying like, oh, that sounded more like an Elmer Fudd. You know, impersonation, like I don't know. Elmer Fudd or if he was trying to impersonate like an Asian accent. He was like, be very, very careful. So and is that racist?

Anthony: 14:41

Why the fuck would you pass out? Elmer Fudd in the middle of a baseball game? Bullshit. You see the fucking fuses white people make. Now in the baseball game. Uh, yo, do Elmer Fudd accent No shit. You. You pick a bootleg oriental. I'm playing the game. Yeah, just say that man. Like, then you apologize. You shouldn't have said that shit in the tea. You know how we set up what the versus what Damon Wayans and Dave Chappelle? Right. Yeah, see they're comedians, let them do their job. You're not funny. Your job is to call balls and tracks and talk about baseball. It's not futile, all of a sudden. No,

Jeff: 15:19

they'll shit like that, you know, the network probably told him to apologize. So when they came back from commercial or whatever, you know, he started off with the apology. You know, they probably made him do that. And then like the next day, he was fired. He was gone. Right. But

Anthony: 15:29

if the network didn't say anything, he probably just let that slide or someone had to step in. Because because he couldn't come to you right mind to do the right thing. Like you shouldn't do characters. You shouldn't do voices if you're not a comedian. And if your community should be able to do it, right, because even he fucked that up. But you're just some guy who used to be a baseball player who's now the announcer and now you want to do like Bullshit. Asian accents like different and when I heard this shit I cringe bro.

Jeff: 15:52

You know I'm saying people were like, oh, some people were actually told me Like what? He's doing Elmer foot. I'm like, no, that's not Elmer fucking foot because he would have ran with that story if he was really doing

Anthony: 16:01

that. Stop, stop Who told you that?

Jeff: 16:03

Like people online or whatever, like if I you know, on Twitter and block them,

Anthony: 16:06

block them, delete them immediately those people are racist. You should not have them in your life.

Jeff: 16:10

But that's what I'm saying. There's people that are just ignorant to this shit. Like they don't see the shit you know me?

Anthony: 16:14

Or like the whole lines that you mean? You mean to tell me that your excuse? I'm doing an Elmer footer for

Jeff: 16:21

you. But that's what I'm saying. He should have ran with that. He didn't even say that. Other people said that for him. If I was him, I would have been like, Oh, yeah, I would have just took that and ran with that. Yeah, that's what I was doing. I was doing on my foot and you

Mikey: 16:33

know, you're lying your lie. He's like, obviously I'm doing Elmer Fudd because it's so relevant in 2021

Jeff: 16:40

ages I'm not hunting wabbits hunting Asians. Like, get the fuck out of here, bro. But yeah, like I said the network fired him immediately. So he's gone. And definitely.

Mikey: 16:49

Can you imagine the conversations that he had to have with the with the people about that? He's like, what? That wasn't racist, though. Yeah, it was just, I was doing an accent. It's funny. Right? But it's like, everything that went into your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving.

Jeff: 17:02

Yeah, but everything that ages are going through now and all the harassment they're going through. Oh, shoot. I mean, like, there wasn't gonna let that shit slide. So yeah, and is that racist?

Anthony: 17:11

Yes.

Jeff: 17:12

Mikey.

Mikey: 17:13

Did he get did he get? Yes, of course it is. Did he say he got fired? Yeah, they fired him next day. Sent to that package just damn good. Fuck it. There's a million people behind him that can do 1000 times better.

Jeff: 17:24

You know, he said, No, I'm not racist. Anybody that knows me. You know, I've never been that type of person, bla bla bla, you know, whatever, the same spiel.

Mikey: 17:31

But it's just the you know, one of the things that frustrates me and a lot of, you know, being a white man and being in white culture is the amount of space and leniency that white people feel like they're allowed to get, like being in a public place. And you see, like, the average white man who feels like he's allowed to take up so much space vote, you know, vocally can be super loud, it can be really, you know, angry about things, all the things that white people feel like they're allowed to do in the amount of leniency that they get, like that dude was probably furious that he was fired and thought inside is completely, you know, wrong. Right? And I don't know, the question. The thing for me, and this was true with me too, as well, is just clean it up. There's, you know, there's a million more people that can do it way better than you that haven't had the moment to do it. And I just think, take all the people out there, you know, even if it's 1%, better, 120% bad, doesn't matter. Just Just wash it out.

Jeff: 18:20

But that also just tells you like about their upbringing. You know, I mean, these are probably people that you can if you if you do a poll, like Yeah, what are the chances jack Morris has said the N word in his life. Saying, but like, for example, you you say, Yeah, you're white culture. But you're of the culture though. You're like in the hip hop. You know, you grew up around blacks and Hispanics, you grew up listening to hip hop music. You know, I'm saying like, you understand the culture more than, you know, somebody like a jack Morris? Well, I'm

Mikey: 18:45

just so sick of people talking about like, they're from a different era, or it's all about whether, you know, we have they grew up and it's, fuck that it's always been wrong. It's wrong everywhere. And it's just that people are starting to be called out more consistently now. And so, it was fucking wrong when you did it. 50 years ago is wrong and did 150 years ago. It's wrong you do right now, so I don't know. I like that. I like the court of public opinion. I like the fact that people are just being, you know, Judge jury, and then they're gone. And I think it's good people should be on their fucking toes. And really the watch themselves for being dicks and perpetuating bullshit that's been going on forever.

Jeff: 19:20

Now, Mike, I'm gonna put you on the spot. I have a question for you. Because I'm curious. I don't know if he gives a shit but I do. Have you ever said the N word, bro? Huh?

Mikey: 19:28

Sure. I'll cop to that. Really? With one more? Certainly. Ah, oh, probably with it in a more frequently singing along with music. It's like the questlove talks about when he I think I might have mentioned on the show before but when he DJs you know, he'll put on like gold digger or something. And then he'll wait to see like, Who's gonna say it? And oh, yeah, certainly. And when I was growing up, you know, I definitely i don't i don't know if i ever said it. Like around other people. I think it was something that I kind of would like, you know, I'd sing along with a song or I'd say it but yeah, I think any anybody who says that they haven't said it? I don't know. I just don't believe that,

Jeff: 20:03

then that would have been a perfect segue because we also have a segment that we do every once in a while called, you know, do they say the N word? And one of the people that asked and does he said was m&m and ad seem to think that he doesn't say it? Yeah. At least when he's around like gray or 50 or like the people that he knows seeing them.

Mikey: 20:23

You're seeing that he says it like in casual conversation like he'll say it as a term of endearment

Jeff: 20:28

probably to like Royce five, nine Dr. Dre or 50 cent not, you know, see, I really don't know he's

Mikey: 20:34

ever maybe he did historically. I don't know. I can't imagine that he I don't think he does,

Jeff: 20:38

because I reminded and that Eminem has said it like on stage when he's like, you know, singing with Dre or you know, like doing backup vocals for Dre or whatever or just being his height man. Song,

Mikey: 20:48

Andre lyric

Jeff: 20:50

that he's saying a Dre lyric. I've seen videos that you could find on YouTube, unless you had them taken down, where he's singing the, you know, he's doing the hype hype man thing for Dre. And when the lyric comes on, like he'll say, you didn't mean, but in his songs No, He never says it was the one saw where he says, you know, you want I'll fuck you up quicker than you'd want to fuck me for saying the word and he doesn't say it. Right? You know, but

Mikey: 21:14

I'm not I grew up I grew up around a handful of white dudes that would say it that was like that would say in conversation would drop it kind of like at the end of a sentence and be like, playful about it. And, you know, he no matter what age I was, I was I was like, Dude, come on. That's not that's not your thing. And what do you think? What's your opinion on the like? m&m saying that as you know, like, in the context of a Dre song or something,

Anthony: 21:38

performing a part doesn't mean he's racist. It's like if you give if you give an actor a role, and they're forced to say derogatory things is not mean that they're being derogatory. Oh,

Jeff: 21:50

Quentin Tarantino, Tarantino say it all day you don't give a shit.

Anthony: 21:52

Yeah, like, even that's kind of questionable. But it's problematic. But quitting writes it in this dialogue, and they immediately and right, and he's a guy who just enjoys black culture period, like he, yeah, he brings. That's why he's always bringing in Samuel Jackson. That's why did Jackie Brown one of my favorite movies with him where he he likes so he likes that old blaxploitation kind of era kind of thing. It's, it's his his bag. So do it. Do I think that m&m says that? No, I don't think so. I think it's like he just has, he has one respect for the coach and to respect for the people that you're working with. And three, most importantly, he understands that he occupies a very unique role in hip hop. And it literally just gonna take that one word to disregard everything. Like, like, he holds that. So for me, like, I'm not going to say it in my personal life, or on wax or anything other than if I'm doing it because I'm performing because part of the job, yes, but am I going to just outwardly outlive them? Because no, because with me kind of being a quote unquote, white Savior, all it takes me to be caught saying that once you saw the backlash, he got a phone call with somebody a bit. So imagine the call inward

Jeff: 22:56

or calling people gays and fags or whatever, right? Crazy backlash to the point where he has to come out on stage with elton john, just to prove that he wasn't homophobic.

Anthony: 23:05

Yeah, and the whole thing is that, you know, I work I work with these people, I can't be like, like, negative, negative, negative, think of that. And like that guy look at you and not not know how you feel about it. Especially someone who's, who might be Afro centric, like, like, like questlove or like, q tip. Most of the people that that nature, like, they might not take too kindly that like, then these questions gonna rolling, like who are you to use the word that we establish as a point of reference and a point of, you know, understanding respect to each other, for you to just be like, claiming for you. So you were already kind of matching, you just came in and claim the hip hop position, you bumped right to the chart. Now, outside of the fact that you're a talented, amazing musician. It also doesn't hurt the fact that you know, you're white. Yeah, tonight, you can go ahead and say this, too. So I think he's wrong. He's not stupid. Think he's real cognizant of it. That's probably why you wouldn't say the word.

Mikey: 23:52

Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting thing. Like, I feel like it's about you know, sorry, Jeff. I feel like it's like a bad intention. Right? Because, like, you know, you can say, Oh, I was with my black friend the other day, or wipers can say this fucking black guy. And I'm like, one of those turns one of those terms, black sounds bad. One of those sounds racist, and like, you shouldn't be saying that. Right. And it's, and I just feel, I feel like it's all about intention, like obviously, like ansaid m&ms, a part of the culture m&m is someone who's like, he's built himself off of off of black culture. And I think he knows that. It's like, there's, I don't know, appropriation is such an interesting thing. Right? Because like, but let's I grew up with a kid who like he, you know, for all intents and purposes, he was like the whitest kid ever, but he dressed it like you see him now he looks like Joel Santana looked at the at the verses. And you're like, Alright, and he and he doesn't say the N word. But he says every like he has appropriated every other part of black culture. And to me I'm kind of like, no toes that N word. Yeah, but he's it's it's a lot and it feels it feels a It feels like it's not like he's taking a little bit more than he can chew.

Jeff: 25:02

Or for the record, folks we know Mikey she for a fact is not a racist. But speaking of words, let me just segue into the get a word of the middle word of the ways word is Blinky, spelled bl IC k y. And according to urban dictionary calm it is slang for pistol. The sentence they use is I keep that Blinky tucked boy. So Blinky is basically a gun. And I came up with this word because I heard it in several songs before and even in the new NAS album, which to me as far as the by the way is the Album of the Year in my opinion so far. He has a song called 40 side and he goes jack heights flushing Elmhurst keep you Blinky. You know how the streets work seeing too many of us die over the turf. So that was one instance where the word Blinky was used in a rap lyric. I never use that word. I mean, I'm not going to talk about Yo bro. Check out my Blinky yo reality. Is that a word you use? When Blinky? Yeah, no, I

Jeff and Ant: 26:09

think I got the hammer. Hammer just now we're back on the four pound cocked back my hammer like I keep licking I think talk at the waist.

Mikey: 26:21

What was the name of the little paperclip that used to help you on Microsoft Word? Wasn't it Clippy Clippy? Yes, it sounds a little too close to Clippy licky Get the fuck off my screen man. Yo, go How do I shut up? If there's anything I don't want from inanimate objects. It's talking to me all the time trying to help me. I liked Blinky though I think I heard it first with like, I don't know how to how to say his name but 22 gs 22 Gz rapper he has a song Bucky. The name is Bucky like the word. Yeah, I like it. Jeff, what's your song on NAS on the new NAS? What's your favorite? Oh the one with Lauryn Hill by far and it would have her versus predicted versus is stupid bro. I'm

Jeff: 27:01

ready for her to could drop a new album of just rapping I don't want to hear her sing. I want to just hear her rapping for give me 12 songs of just rapping.

Mikey: 27:09

You think that's coming up? No, no, no, definitely not. Do you think an album is coming?

Jeff: 27:12

No no no show got to finish actually like I'm saving souls. Yeah, worry but you're complaining about my lateness? Yeah, because I was I was waiting for you till two in the morning when I went to New York the one time bro in the Meatpacking District to go see you in concert. She pulled up at two in the morning and I was falling asleep and drunk by that time. Like Come on. But um, oh, great album though. Yeah, the song with him. An m&m was underwhelming because it's just not an m&m. You want a song of just him an m&m. Like, like Drake, like Jay Z had with in Renegade with em where they just go back and forth to versus E. So this is like an epmd song, you know? And it's like an ode to the old school, which is cool, but it was underwhelming. It's not what I expect from them to I want a song of just them to going bar for bar.

Mikey: 27:55

Yeah. I find myself listening to store run and then definitely East actually the morning though. That's dope. That's where Easter is bouncy. I like it.

Jeff: 28:03

Yeah, yo, we had we had a we had some Batman slander last week. Did you hear about that? The question was, the question that I posed was was Batman and or Bruce Wayne racist. So I have posted it up on tik tok the little clip, you know was talking about I posted it up on tik tok. Somebody actually commented somebody by the name of handsome devy responded to the question and bear with me because I'm gonna read exactly what how he wrote it and you know sometimes these people Spelling's Don't be, don't be right. He said, No, Batman is not racist. The guy that makes all his tech is not himself. He is very close friends with him as well. I believe the name of him is Lucius Fox, and he doesn't beat up one color worse than the other they all get the same as beating and for some thugs he gives them jobs if he knows they have a family so no Batman nor Bruce Wayne is racist. All right, I don't know what the logic is behind that. But my stance I still stand that Bruce Wayne and or The Dark Knight or race

Mikey: 29:06

Wouldn't it get hidden gave a job pointed out oh my question. Who do you give a job to? Alright. You have kids to feed. You're in Joker who have you?

Jeff: 29:17

But that maybe he meant that? Maybe he meant that Wednesday arrest. You know, these people the inmates get to clean the streets and that's their job. I don't know. I'm cleaning the streets is something

Mikey: 29:26

that's a stretch man with the orange jumpsuit. I don't know what he meant by that. I mean, one of my questions is like can you be a billionaire industrialist and not have major money on the backs of exploiting black and black and brown people? I have a hard time believing how many projects multinational corporation they're like they're fucking raping Africa on some level

Jeff: 29:47

but not only that, bro he's many how many project buildings at him or his father not tear down to build Oh, Wayne enterprise buildings this shit? For sure. You know,

Mikey: 29:57

how much Trump how much Trump shit have they pulled where they've got like, you know, buildings that they that they're screwing people over in or whatever I mean, I don't know I don't think there's any way that he's not and and made a good point like with the camera who made the point about Halle Berry Catwoman?

Jeff: 30:10

Yeah, Yeah, I did. You know, the one time that they have a black cat woman, he's not even in the movie. He's not

Mikey: 30:17

in the hottest cat woman that's ever happened.

Jeff: 30:22

Like Yeah, she's the walker like yeah, I'm like I'm skipping this one. Call me back when we have a white cat woman. I'll be back in now.

Anthony: 30:30

I'm sorry. I broke your hip when you're trying to buy that eighth. I apologize. Here's this mop go cleanup. Gotham. That's a joke. You get $1 a day. Yeah. The fuck up my face for his nonsense man. So

Mikey: 30:44

knocked all your teeth out the east wing of of my mansion. Could really use some help.

Jeff: 30:51

If you're illegal bet you get like $1 $1 an hour what you get?

Mikey: 30:56

I mean, I can't think of any I must. I don't know the comic books all that well, but i know i a couple years ago maybe, I don't know maybe it was right after Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin were killed. They put I remember they put out a an issue of the comic where they had him basically like investigating a white cop that had killed black teenager like wearing a hoodie. Okay, and that was like the most that I kind of really did, you know, dug into the Batman comics since I was a kid, but and I don't know, it just it felt pretty opportunistic. And I know people liked it. They celebrated it, but I don't know. I think it was like a kind of a desperate attempt to make Batman seem like he was. I don't know,

Jeff: 31:35

at the end of the race. Is it a day when it comes to being progressive and anti racist? Marvel has kicked deseas as the whole time you know, mom had the Black Panther they had the first black superheroes they had Luke Cage and even in the comics, Luke Cage was beating up on kkk people. You know, I'm saying, you know, Batman way back. So you know, Marvel has been way more progressive in that aspect of it. DC has fell behind. And these these characters are still looking racist to me.

Anthony: 31:59

So he's racist.

Mikey: 32:05

I mean, of course he is. It feels like billionaire dude who wants to play dress up? I don't know the thing that had me laughing the hardest was was when you guys were talking about Batman and, and and said something like Batman would be the only superhero taken down by a tax audit.

Jeff and Ant: 32:22

was even true. Like, run the books run the books?

Mikey: 32:26

witness a 50,000 square foot cave that you haven't paid taxes on. Right? violations in that cave?

Anthony: 32:38

That was literally wet. That was literally part of the plot of what the dark night. Yeah, which part of it remember is the guy with Coleman Reese when he talked about the whatever like it's all this money going somewhere and he figured it out and figured out he's Batman audience that's all it took no time he was like Yeah, I was like trying to shoot back like enterprises. Like I didn't know what your baby pancake in the streets like I want demaine dollars here for the rest of my life stuff like that. Delicious foxes so you've been telling me that the person you think is vigilante goes around beating people up and your idea of whatever it is to like Nebraska Yeah, like good luck like even he loses knows like all Coleman did was just going to draw and check the books like Yo, Nick is Batman like it's not hard

Mikey: 33:28

when I was just like the idea of like, who built the Batcave like there had to be some contractors and some Earth movers that they brought in some dude that would like ratted him out like oh it's under the waterfall like we built a you know 65,000 square foot sexy back here for him. I was involved in that but

Jeff: 33:44

but it Bruce Wayne with black though what are the odds are what are the chances are what's the over under that OSHA? What already went in there? Shut that shit down for any type of violation. There's a leak in this part right here. I don't know there's some wires exposed over here. Yeah, we're gonna have to shut it down.

Mikey: 34:00

You're gonna need some wet floor signs all over this area.

Anthony: 34:03

What do you think Black Panther is based on kinda he couldn't pull that shit in America they got a bulletproof black man Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No running books. I went I went to CIA the NSA the IRS when we went back I saw

Jeff: 34:19

your face bro. You said some derogatory shit. And by the way you always taxes bro tax evasion. You going to jail. Black Panther would be in jail right now if he was in the US.

Anthony: 34:30

Who would be given him a job Bruce Wayne come up.

Mikey: 34:36

Yo, do some of those double front flips into a mop.

Jeff and Ant: 34:39

These walls knee pain good. Luck you Yo. Yo, let's take a break.

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Jeff: 35:57

I we back manga already which I list man the top and j right i mean i know Mikey from Jersey he over there on the west side but have you been listening to hip hop I lost energy of fire. I got my list app gave me permission to have a couple of honorable mentions. And you probably won't be mad at these two guys or even honorable mentions. But they This is my list the first person I have as an honorable mention is out of Newark, New Jersey Mr. Iced Tea, even though most people consider him to be a West Coast Dude, you know so he's like to park you know, I mean, like was born in New York, you know to park was raised in Maryland and then move over you know, it is from Newark, New Jersey, folks. He's an honorable mention. Actually.

Anthony: 36:42

He's number five actually. Oh, you see,

Jeff: 36:44

and then check this out and I know this person you're gonna be mad cuz I know this person is like probably in your top three out of East Orange New Jersey trash from from naughty by Nathan. I'm hanging up now. It's a shock one's argument. Look, man, when I originally wrote this list I had touched number five. Okay, but, you know, after further investigation, I couldn't, you know, think of if I'm being honest, you know, I'm a lyrics person. You know, I'm saying when it comes to lyrics and shit, I can't put on my top five. He's just he's just outside of it. He will be number six. He would be number six on this list. So yeah, if you have any honorable mentions, I'll let you go. If not, you're gonna start with five you know good god damn well,

Anthony: 37:27

we got got honorable mentions. You always have honorable mentions. You know, we don't got no honorable mentions. Why do we do this all the time? You know this. I just have

Mikey: 37:35

extra is there not an honorable mention? That's honorable mentions, bro. Yeah, don't

Jeff and Ant: 37:39

run them off. Go ahead. Poor righteous teachers. Okay. Just Allah. Okay.

Jeff: 37:45

This is my main one. Probably. We probably we probably just ran off an entire top five. No, absolutely. No. Do You Do any of you have any of those dues from the outsiders? I used to repack?

Unknown: 37:58

Oh, like they were from Jersey. What's that dude's name? Like, like, even like fatal? Oh, yeah.

Anthony: 38:04

Yeah, I know. fatal. Oh, shit person. Did you really pay to live in Montclair? I live in Montclair. Damn. I see fit all the time. He's been hanging us out and he who flew while he was like when he was when Paki come into town or anything like that. But he's from Montclair, he's from the south. And I know exactly what failure was recipe stuff

Mikey: 38:21

was saying fail. I know. Yeah, I didn't know that he died actually.

Anthony: 38:25

Not too long ago. It was a big thing for people that grew up in the south in the Montclair, and it gets the black parts of mockler that knew him and they knew of him and so on so forth. He's always around speaking

Jeff: 38:34

here. Speaking of my class job, do I told you that I trash walked right by me in Montclair I used to go to college of Montclair was back in like 2002 2003. And it's the middle of summertime. It was like 100 degrees at night, or that day, rather, it was in the morning, and just do with a hoodie on his Walker. So obviously, he's already drawing attention. Obviously, he was trying not to draw attention. But it was 90 degrees outside he had a hoodie on so he was drawing attention. Everybody's looking at Who the fuck is this dude? So he passes right by me. And I'm like, yo, that dude looks familiar. His hoodie falls off and you see the bald head. I'm like, yo, that's fucking trench. And then you know, some people recognize him and he started running within like females like running after him like, Oh, shit, a stretch. And he just ran. I seen him across the street and he just ran out. I'm like, Oh, shit. Anyway, that's my trek story. I'll start with my number five.

Anthony: 39:22

I was kidding. bisogno number five. Actually, I was talking with you. But he was on my list. Could you think of it as a right not realized? Right? Like, like he's born and raised here. Right? Like, like, like, like Michael Jordan from New York, like, associated with North Carolina. Right?

Mikey: 39:38

That is wild. I had no idea about it actually. until until you kind of start to like, listen to him. Oh, right. Exactly. He I saw a picture Rhys Have you guys seen a picture of his daughter? No. his oldest daughter it's she looks exactly like a mini iced tea with braids. Oh my gosh. So cute.

Jeff: 39:58

Alright, so let me do she's got those like kind of walleyes let me do my number five man most of the people on here from Newark. And this person is the first lady of the flipmode squad rod digger. She's number five on my list. If you go go people don't know about her. Go YouTube. Go listen to her rap and go listen to someone who freestyles. She got bars. She just didn't have the influence as the rest of the people that are on this list. You know, I'm saying, Shane really make the best verses that are on the flipmode. I'm trying to tell you. So she's my number five. Go ahead. That's great. Oh,

Anthony: 40:34

we were playing drone trails. Now. You want to go with him on five? Yeah. Fuck him up. Number five. Joe button. Joe's my father. All right,

Jeff: 40:41

I'll tell you this. Joe Budden is my number two, the number one No, no, he's my number two real He's my number two. And by the way out of Jersey City, and I want to correct people because they always say Joe button is not buttons. It's not like the buttons on the shirt. It's spelled b u A d d e n it's button Joe Budden, not buttons, not bu TT o n. All right. All right. All

Anthony: 41:05

right, get some toy fanclub. They gave you a golden pin this shirt that says I'm a job. All right, all right. They're gonna keep saying button, they can't help themselves, they give you a golden button.

Jeff: 41:13

Joe Budden is my number two, so he's gonna go ahead, Mike. I have Queen line in my queen LA is my number four. She's my 14 out of Newark, New Jersey, the queen. She's the real Queen of hip hop.

Mikey: 41:28

I think people forget about how good Black Rain that they need. There's some bangers

Jeff: 41:33

want to hear more recent shit. You don't didn't want to go back to the 90s or the 80s. Okay, go listen to the latest track that she did with Jay to kiss. It was her jaida kiss and who I forget who the third person was on that. Case. Case lay shit. Living Legends number bunbee. It was bumpy thing. So it was Queen Latif, Mangia kiss and been on the case. lation Living Legends go listen to her verse on that. And that's her career in a nutshell. Yeah, my number for Mike. He's number five. Like Alright, so she's my number four. She's answer number four. What's your number four.

Mikey: 42:07

Number four. I've got I do have a tie. And there we go. Here we go. I won't even talk about I won't even talk about the first one because it's trash. It's okay. Trash is one of the two. But next one's elda Sensei.

Anthony: 42:19

Okay, yeah, no, not working like that. But I know.

Mikey: 42:24

Love elder center. He had three or four of my favorite songs. You know, in the early 90s like kind of golden era stuff. He was I don't know. I loved all the sensei he was a member of a collective that I'm totally blanking the name all right now but um, yeah. And he's just shout jersey a lot.

Jeff: 42:40

Elder Sensei, my number three and I know for a fact I'm 100% positive that this person is answer number one. But he's mine. Number three out of brick city. Newark, New Jersey. One half of team man. Reggie Noble. Red man. He's my number three.

Mikey: 43:00

I've got him as my number two. Whoa, okay. Alright, man.

Jeff and Ant: 43:04

You are fucking high. Oh, Reggie is my number one

Jeff: 43:07

how high so he's not gonna kiss the sky. easily. Oh, he was gonna be number one knew that easily cuz it mean it's from Nora. He's from Newark.

Anthony: 43:17

Oh, yeah. No, it's one of them brands like you got to remember that there was a point in time where he was one of he was never the most popular rapper never held that time. So he never held it never held that it never have with the heavyweight title. They have the Intercontinental like he was always like your favorite rappers favorite rapper. He's epidemic favorite rapper the whole, you know, right. He's the red one runs while the albida part like it was a thing and boom, we're ready for a long time. And like I said, He's one of them people that you don't really want to play with lyrically ever. Like feel because it's so easy. You never see him screaming off be off paces. always consistent with him. That's what so it's like number one, it's so eerily good. And even years later, he still puts out content. So his stuff that you want to hear when everyone's doing everything. Redman is my number one. And I mean, it's not even a hard choice, actually. And if you've been following this stuff that he's been putting out lately,

Mikey: 44:12

yeah, it's ridiculous. Every song is is amazing. Every song is top.

Anthony: 44:17

And he don't care. He's not trying to be like, I want to be the greatest. Like I know what I am. I know we're really good at this and anybody want to Stephen's Green come on with it, but he's red man. Like we've talked about before with him and met the diversity like I didn't remember read did that like Yeah, he did a lot of shit.

Jeff: 44:33

Like, I don't know, Eric's away. Mike doesn't know that Merrick sermon does so much production so that's why the Death Squad Keith Murray Oh, met the man is my all time favorite and I think I could say that being paired up with red man I think actually made met the man better because he had to bring his a game you know what I'm saying? I think being with red man for all these years made met the man A Better Rapper. But anyway, so

Anthony: 45:01

the the, the m&m verse like like iron sharpens iron, like like when you when you end it with that guy. You can't boil it like, you know what, I'm going to give you the matches.

Mikey: 45:12

So Redman is my third. And it also made him a better smoker. So he's like, we're so high right now. And Redman just dropped like the illis verse, I have to really step up. And by

Jeff: 45:24

the way, Redman has the greatest episode of MTV Cribs of all time and actually bringing that show back. He has the best episode. Was that actually, was that actually his place? Was that No. He talks about in an interview love that MTV didn't even want to show that house because it was so ghetto. They wanted to pay him to rent out a mansion so they could show that instead. And he was like, No, this is my fucking house. Like now I live with all my boys Whatever. I'm showing this buddy sleeping on the ground, like now even talked about that he said they were gonna pay to have a mansion rented out instead he was like hell no, I'm showing my real house. So yeah, that's his real fucking house.

Mikey: 46:03

I love at the end, he's like leaning out the window because there's no screen in it and he's touching the wires together on the

Jeff: 46:08

doorbell. Yeah, yeah. So when I'm Mike, what's your what's your great way? Right? I've learned that. Oops. Right. So I go What's your three? And you go first?

Anthony: 46:23

scenario by doing a time I'm gonna do a talk. Okay. Yes. So my three is gonna be a tie between check tracks and Wyclef.

Jeff: 46:30

I don't. I thought about why play but he to me is a singer, but I don't consider him a good rapper or a good lyricist at all. To me. He was the weakest member of the fujis he was just a producer. He made the beat he did the instrument he sang in a cool, okay, he's a very talented, but as a rapper, I don't see him like, you know, to me, he's not a great rapper at all. I'm born again living. Even in my top 10 New Jersey rappers he's done.

Anthony: 46:53

It don't matter don't matter, man. And tresses just trigger trichur maloja. Because like I said, I mean, they all deserve credit. But he's the face of that group. He's He's important to hip hop in the annals of history, history. And the whole idea of having him I can't You can't speak about the history of hip hop in New Jersey without mentioning tracks like, naughty by nature has to be up there. They have an anthem that still plays 25 years later, we still don't hit pop. perrey myosins. Right. But

Jeff: 47:22

do we put but do we put Vin rock up there? Or just stretch? Did we put you know the DJ kg stretch? Oh,

Anthony: 47:29

no. It's something about tracks and all that. I think the songs the the ghetto bass or something like that. We basically know. It's bad. Never Never knew my dad. Right, right. Yeah, everything is gonna be right. When he wanted to be he was he was such a good vivid storyteller, too. When he really wanted to be like, you saw it and you felt it and like, you got where he was coming from with it.

Mikey: 47:54

He was just just like, his his. His tool was super good to like his, his voice and like his enunciation. And I mean, he could fast rap. Like he like he's just a great lyricist that I think a lot of people just think like, oh is party anthems and party songs but not only by nature, like he has. I mean, all the albums, he has at least a verse that's like, in the top 100 ever his best friends was two parts. So

Jeff: 48:17

you know, he comes with that same type of passion. I don't think I knew that. It took probably one of his best friends that was with it.

Anthony: 48:25

So that's what about Mike, what's your three? So number three, I have loads of the underground. Okay. They have forgot about them? Yep. Hey, come to loads yet.

Mikey: 48:38

I love those dudes. And like, what I'm after is a song that comes up from me a lot. Like they just were well produced. They mostly I think, you know, all of them are really good lyricist. They're just they got a lot of play. I had two or three other albums. I think I got through like Columbia house or one of those things and just got constant rotation. And they're all out of New York. So not new. I

Jeff: 48:57

already said my number two. My number two was Joe Budden out of Jersey City. Mm hmm. Who's your to? Laura? Oh, I might as well just say Lauren is my number one out of South Orange. Miss Lauren. Have you got to say

Mikey: 49:11

correct mine. She's my number two. Yeah.

Jeff: 49:14

Number one, she and she just reminded me I've got her birthday she did on the last night as you know, it was just a reminder of her greatness. She cemented as my number one rapper out of Jersey. I

Jeff and Ant: 49:24

don't care when nobody say did you debate about I debated about what it was doing? Nobody says All right, shit.

Mikey: 49:36

So do you think people would would argue that she's not a rapper? She is a rapper.

Jeff: 49:40

Do you mean she's absolutely right. She raps and she sings. But rambling is better than her like you were saying?

Mikey: 49:46

Yeah, no, I agree. And it's but I mean, people would argue you know, like about why have you said even about why clap that he's he's more of a singer than her. I

Jeff: 49:52

just don't. To me. He's just not a good rapper. Like he's a rapper. Yes. And I've seen him do freestyle and he's really good off the top to like, but he's, can you tell me out of any Fuji song? Did he have the best verse? Or did Lauren have the best version and he saw that they were in together? I would say that prize she has made that Ross is a better rapper and I could have easily put price on this list. But I think he's from New York I think is from like Brooklyn or some I think process A Better Rapper than Wyclef when you're not the best rapper in your own group and I can't consider you know, I mean, so to me why clap was the worst rapper in the group. might have been the best talented he was probably the most talented out of the three because he he do a lot of play instruments, sings raps, producers makes beats he does a lot of different things. But that's rapping to me. He was the worst member of the fujis when it comes to street rapping like bars.

Mikey: 50:36

What do you think about the carnival? Or the album? Yeah, yeah, pretty good. Man, and he is a diverse album. Yeah, he drops bars in it.

Jeff: 50:48

You know, I don't I don't think he's just like just a hip hop person. Like he's like I said he's diverse. He's everything. He got songs with like Shakira, you know? I mean, he got songs with like, with Carlos Santana, whoever, like, you know, I mean like those songs, but everybody is not even just hip hop. He's just a pop superstar. You know, I mean, super influential. Alright, so who's answer number one? All right, man. We already started. Yeah, right, man. All right. So we all had red man. We all had an orange. We all have button. We all have Queen Latifah. I think we did. About Eva. Wait. Mica habla Tifa Yeah.

Mikey: 51:24

Latif was my number five. My four I cool. Yeah, I know. We did. Who else did we not but also on my side list a con. Your rapper? He comes out a rapper man. Yes. I mean, does he? He's from Senegal, though. Right?

Anthony: 51:37

But yeah, but the country of origin. If you're saying that then that technically makes sure leaves the room black because she was born in South Africa. Right? It is a lot of this day. There's a lot of white people in Africa. I can see that. It's called apartheid

Mikey: 51:53

is called very fucking problematic. Here.

Anthony: 51:57

I just didn't want to get your snap reaction. You don't know. What does somebody have an argument about right now?

Unknown: 52:03

Is it about energy? Is it about milk bone? No. I just think it's coming up. When I look for new New Jersey rappers. I was like oh milkbone remember the three album runs? Oh,

Anthony: 52:14

boom, actually. And look at it. Really? Look at it. It's not easy.

Jeff: 52:19

I already see Kanye is on there. So I'm gonna have him Oh, damn, they got m&m slow

Anthony: 52:24

slow down. Look Slow down. Slow down. Relax. Look at that list.

Mikey: 52:28

What are we doing top three top five just name one first.

Jeff: 52:32

These just these just take a lot of the greatest three album run so you got not first three albums DMX his first three albums Kanye his first three m&ms first three little wings first three t eyes first three. Tribe Called Quest his first three albums Rick Ross don't even belong on this list. ludicrous. His first three miss these first three and outcasts first? Two pucks first three albums. Okay. And beanie. Segal doesn't belong on here and beanie tribe. And the first one and the first one. Kendrick. Okay, Kendrick.

Anthony: 53:05

Yeah, that's that section. 80

Jeff: 53:07

Good Kid mass sitting in means between NAS Kanye and m&m that's it there's a three way tie for me with those three. I like DMX his first two albums, but I don't like

Anthony: 53:18

I said to make a pick three as my

Mikey: 53:20

three way tie. Oh, is that in one in one position, Jeff, or is that for your whole list? Just one three way tie. Yeah.

Jeff: 53:28

Okay, because now it's his first albums illmatic and it's widely regarded as the best hip hop album of all time. And to me it's not even the best jazz album. I think it was written or I am which are the next two albums were better than that one. So to me that's a historic run of three albums all went platinum. dmx his first album is an all time classic. And then he dropped a second album is a flesh of my flesh. And both albums went platinum in the same year, which nobody has done other than Tupac. And then his third album I wasn't feeling at all like Tupac right boys m&m bro like the m&m show the What is it? The Slim Shady. LP. I got this little Wayne Marshall Mathers LP.

Anthony: 54:15

I want to say I want to say Wayne, I'm going to say Kendrick and I'm going to pick out yeah wow. Um, graduation was late registration is the length of it and I could hear it right but graduates I think it's a little bit lesser I know he's trying to see like the transition in the sun melts the first two Yeah, the third one but I'm not gonna argue and get section 80 I'm not gonna argue against good kid Man City I'm not gonna argue against them butterfly the purple one butterfly want to fucking Grammy so I'm not gonna argue against that. And that Wayne run that that Carter 2341

Mikey: 54:51

if they're crazy songs in this deep voice talking about the

Anthony: 54:57

heavyweight belt Wayne hill that full while you have the heavyweight champ of rap for a while that I've never talked about a mixtape just talking about those three albums in a row like that like it was just so fired ti will it was that was tip can that's okay but it might and I'm sorry I'm not putting up against that Okay, so those three right there yeah for them play allistic they followed up with at aliens and equipment are not in even tribe couldn't be dead and I love tribe. I was watching documentary early on Hulu. Michael Rapaport one yeah, the beats Ron Yeah,

Mikey: 55:30

yeah, it's good.

Anthony: 55:31

It's just weird when you watch the documentary just seeing the brothers just fall out like that. Like I know I hate that. It's just tip tip and five just couldn't see eye to eye there. Just Yeah, I would definitely get somebody who just about hip hop another guy who just a creative he can't help himself but right. Yeah, yeah, that's

Jeff: 55:46

definitely good discussion. I've tried three run, or three album runs of all time, like, everybody wants to holla at us on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, even got a tick tock. I'm gonna start putting all these links on our show notes. So people could just follow us on the social medias.

Anthony: 56:02

Yeah. And the picture I sent you, we just put it up on Instagram. They could just vote it and look it out or to open it.

Mikey: 56:08

Yeah. And that's a hard one to choose from. It was not right. And I've got I've got tribe outcast NAS tribe, outcast. Okay. You love

Anthony: 56:20

you I can't wait to do this. This this verse with you? I'm a smoky Yeah, we

Jeff: 56:24

got to do this versus because this we're doing we're doing some exclusive content. I got some songs. I'm out some exclusive shit I want to put up to stay tuned for that.

Mikey: 56:34

jigga versus nosrat

Jeff: 56:36

and one of our patrons actually Eric Grant, cause he wants to do havoc versus DJ Premier if I'm not mistaken. I thought we agreed on right. I was going to be DJ Premier. He was gonna have it you know. All right. He could bring it Is that a thing? I mean have a good can have a come against IPTV same thing here but I feel like he's just gonna have a lot of Mobb Deep songs and then once he runs out of my deep songs, you're gonna be in trouble. What's having produced besides Mobb Deep I don't think I know he produced he produced this while the rappers

Anthony: 57:06

like it. Yeah. And I like and I like having like, I don't know why, I guess because he liked him personally, but I would have chose outcome and

Mikey: 57:13

it's interesting. Yeah, we're gonna do that one night. I mean, that's what seems like a much wider more diverse Katelyn.

Anthony: 57:19

It because we really know what to compare to Gigi for me but alcumus has some he has some things that

Jeff: 57:23

I'm gonna leave that up to kazuhiko hit me up and tell me what he wants to do when he wants to do this we do this for our patrons to show our appreciation for them and but that's going to be our show we want to thank Mikey she for finally coming back on and getting back into answer good graces anything you want to promote Mikey?

Mikey: 57:42

I know. I didn't I didn't get to clear my name. I didn't get to come back on and then explain that. I'm not actually a drug pusher slash gun runner. Oh, yeah. Because Yeah, he was talking shit, bro.

Anthony: 57:55

You know, he slandered? No, because he was talking shit about drug pushers and gun runners

Jeff: 57:59

now but he did it though, was when you said when you left that voicemail that I played on the air. You know, talking shit saying I had a pink shirt on but just because he was going for dipset you know I'm saying that that was that did that put them over the top.

Mikey: 58:12

I was just hoping it was an aspirational phone calls hoping that ant had he had his pressed Daffy Duck full full outfit on.

Anthony: 58:21

And that's my budget, which I'm not taking that back.

Mikey: 58:23

I appreciate it. Well, Jeff, I will say just for a little bit of peek behind the curtain. Jeff texted me and made it sound like it was like 1,000% in for dipset. And I was just like, Wait a second. I watched the same verses that you guys did that can't be possible. And then to hear the end then I called him before the episode was recorded and then to hear the episode and it was so much more nuanced argument. And I said and I was like wait a second.

Anthony: 58:51

I told him he was watching before I said in that room that performance is way better. If I'm taking it off and just listen to those songs. Those songs just play better. Yeah, and there's no knockin for lock the lock is falling up and doing great with it.

Mikey: 59:02

It was a performance challenge I think in that in that versus like like you guys said this makes sure that people understand that they have to step it the fuck up when they come on versus like you can't be hammered and just screaming at people and not you know not have your shit together like dipset they could have won that if they had come with like a good performance. I'm

Jeff: 59:19

ready. I'm ready to see data kiss do his third. Versus like he's he's he left out so many songs. He has entire albums of songs that he hasn't even played yet. He can easily do another one who's against you. Shit. Well, he did fabulous and then he did they could do locks again. You know? gave me a good a good idea when he texted me he said we could do the locks versus meth ghost and rate another three on three right? You know, I'm saying are we gonna do Jake is by himself. Yeah, somebody? Yeah.

Anthony: 59:52

I just don't want it to become the J to show him like fucking Manny Pacquiao. Like that guy got his ass beat bro. By a Cuban nobody. No, no. No, but it was a good thing though. Honestly, because if those arrows bent arrow to end the demand curve, right? Well, he's gonna Yeah. run for president he run a food fuckin shelter. No.

Jeff: 1:00:15

You got to give it to Pacquiao. At least he's still fighting legit boxers. He's not fighting YouTubers and non boxes. You know, I'm saying which is not a knock on Mayweather. You know, he just figured out a way to make money and not get hurt. That's That's cool. Manny Manny still wants to smoke. You know, I'm saying he's still getting in the ring with whoever the best are. So you give it up to him. But he's 42 he needs to quit it and just just go be a politician in the Philippines. He's supposed to be running for president.

Anthony: 1:00:37

Yeah, it's gonna be weird, but President Pacquiao sounds it's

Mikey: 1:00:42

just the alliteration there like

Anthony: 1:00:44

president pack. Come on. pp, but Yo, bye The President

Mikey: 1:00:48

he's gonna punch out like the someone that he's a political rival with

Anthony: 1:00:53

knockout punch, knockout poverty knockout. That might be a commercial marketing for president orange and a knockout poverty. Let me end this segment we are here. Thanks for tuning in the coach of peace as we bring into battle wounds to hide numerous battles or black shorts, she's not expected to win we don't play please stay safe. like Paul McCartney.

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