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May 24, 2021

C.R.E.A.M.

C.R.E.A.M.

In this episode the guys are joined by Mike Shethar as they discuss an array of things including:
The NBA end of season awards
Jeff makes good on his bet with Anthony
Cryptocurrency
Anthony gives free financial advice
The Universal Hip Hop Museum in the Bronx
Mikey reveals his list of best diss tracks of all time (because he was upset that we didn't included him last week)
The guys also discuss their idea for a "washed up rapper car wash"  business and other funny investing strategies 
Broke ass rappers 
Paul Mooney's death
Jeff shares a personal Paul Mooney story

Featured song: C.R.E.A.M. - Wu Tang Clan

Referenced Link:
Hip Hop | The Original Hip Hop Museum | UHHM

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Jeff:

Yo, yo, yo, what's going on in Episode 44 we got my man and we got my man Mikey. She in the building was good fellas.

Mikey:

Howdy.

Jeff:

That's the most country is sure to fuck with you guys. Like this is a hip hop podcast Howdy,

Mikey:

howdy. Howdy fellas I'm not gonna lie I've been drinking before this podcast so there might be some things that come off.

Jeff:

Well, I got an email where I got me a summer Shandy. Oh leinenkugel good summer Shandy. This is pop dude.

Mikey:

I like a summer Shandy. Dude.

Jeff:

There you go to the winter summer Shandy is in the ladies like which one we got this one. That one this one. I'm like, yo, just give me this one.

Mikey:

That's the original.

Jeff:

Cuz it's something like it. It's not like hard. I mean is refreshing. You know? So?

Mikey:

Yeah. Ant's asleep. What's up?

Anthony:

I'm not sleep. Yeah, yeah, I'd start talking about beer like Yo, what are we gonna write podcast? Seriously?

Mikey:

Isn't this suds and buds?

Anthony:

Yeah, I'm hanging. Yo, yo, this is Southern buzzer muddy. I quit. I don't have the jacket. Maybe it's suds and buds. We just talked about beer and weed.

Jeff:

We should do that.

Anthony:

No, what No, don't do that could get mad comments like yeah, starting a podcast again.

Jeff:

I got a niche 1000 downloads in the first day.

Anthony:

We're gonna try like, like, like, a different beard. A different trend every day.

Mikey:

Yeah. Magic. If you could get paid for that. That sounds awesome.

Anthony:

Yo, you get different sponsors. Like Snoop Dogg. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. You picking up the money. You know, I don't care edit this part out.

Mikey:

Let's chop it out.

Anthony:

That's the money right there. first

Jeff:

episode featuring Snoop Dogg next week has met the man red man.

Anthony:

Yeah, Matt. Yeah. may have mad beer sponsored. But oh, I want to try beer like cool. When

Jeff:

are we perfect? Mikey she is on is because he felt left out from the dis episode we did last week. You know, he felt like we missed him Pun intended on our distracts. But he wasn't available. But he was touring the world again, like you'd be doing.

Mikey:

I know. It's true. I'm like, I'm in my tour bus just like driving around doing all my dates. Yeah. I mean, it was I took hours. I spent hours putting together my list and then saw that in my podcast feed was you guys talking about distraction? I felt just Well,

Jeff:

we all get to that. But first man, man have a score to settle. Yeah, I want to hear it. I have to pay up on a bet that we made months and months ago. Before the NBA season even started. Obviously the NBA season is over. Now the playoffs have started and guess who's in the playoffs, by the way? might just take a wild guess who's in the playoffs? After not being a Dallas Cowboys? No, no.

Mikey:

Well, I think I know what you're referring to. And it's not the Denver Nuggets. I think it's gonna go ahead and be the new york knickerbockers.

Jeff:

After 10 years of not been in the playoffs, Mikey, who is in the playoffs right now in the NBA.

Mikey:

It's gonna go ahead and be the New York City knickerbockers. Yeah, I've got to put us out of victory.

Jeff:

Yes, we are. Yes, we are son and we actually can't

Mikey:

Who's your team?

Anthony:

That's just like a tractor trailer going to sound your horn. House man.

Mikey:

Yeah, that was that song.

Anthony:

At 18. We'll have a look. I got sound effects. Oh, no, no, no, my team. He don't think it's the next because he don't think

Jeff:

I've ever heard bro. Like he just criticizes the team never celebrates them anything. Like I'm like, yo, we're in the playoffs, or whatever. You supposed to criticize the shit you love. All right. Well, that's true. We're in the playoffs. And we we made a few bets. I mean, at the one that I have to pay up today is that we made a bet that Kevin Durant, I said that Kevin Durant was not going to average 25 points a game in the season. Well, the season is over and his bitch ass average 27 seven points per game. And Anthony's not gonna give me any breaks here, he's gonna want his money, but I'm gonna make my case as to why is bullshit. There were 72 games this season, Mikey, there was a shortened season, it wasn't this normally 82, they cut it short to only 72. This guy only played in like 30 games. So he didn't even play in half of the games that should emit and keep it real like that should immediately make the bet Nolan void.

Mikey:

He didn't play. I mean, it does seem like a juice, the juices the stats a little bit, but I don't know deals a deal. And so you know, smarter, weird, everything's weird right now.

Jeff:

But it's my fault. Because I didn't take that into consideration. I had to say I messed up. I thought that because I knew he was gonna miss a lot of time. And that's the reason why I made the bet. But I thought that every game he missed was going to go against his numbers. I didn't realize that the NBA doesn't count the games that you didn't play against your record, you know, I'm saying like, if you don't play, it's just pure is whatever your averages based on whatever you play, like if you play 10 games and you score 30 points and all those 10 games and you're averaging 30 points. I didn't calculate that, you know, so that's my fault, because I thought that the games that you miss would count like as a negative towards your scoring. Average. Why

Mikey:

did he miss him in the games? I don't mean to

Jeff:

Well, he missed last year, he had an injury. You had a very serious injury Achilles heel, so he missed a whole year. And in this year, he his first year back after after the injury so they were you know, easing him in, you know, I'm saying he would play a few games, take a few games off, play a few games, take a few games off. You know, they they wanted to. They're a great team, so they wanted to just have him ready for the playoffs? They didn't want to overuse him. No, you know, whatever. So he only played in like 30 games. He was 27 points whatever I guess I owe at $20 and I'll let I'll let him rebuttal. While I open up my myself so I can go ahead and Zelda

Mikey:

I was gonna say it's gonna be cold hard cash, or is it going to be alright,

Jeff:

and what is it? 20? Yes. $20

Mikey:

and I really think that he should be giving you like a crisp $20 bill right now. I think that really means something who carries $20 bills anymore, bro in a while you have to go to the ATM Dude, come This means you blew it. You guessed wrong.

Jeff:

So here we go. I got the Anthony Austin. He's enrolled as Anthony on Zell $20 All right, that's enough. So I'm sending in now. And it's called fuck KD bitch ass $20 I

Mikey:

should go put my I should put my KD shoes on ascending.

Jeff:

I can even see this shit.

Anthony:

I trust you know where my phone buzzing I'm writing. Now all of a sudden having signal problems like you know,

Jeff:

I'm saying though. I don't know what happened. But you really not gonna? Not gonna give me a break for the fact that you hardly played apps the fucking I got it. But that's fine. You know why? Because there's other bits that we made that I'm gonna win. Sure. For example, Coach of the Year. deca No, no. I said Tom tibideaux of the New York knickerbockers is going to win. Coach of the Year. Anthony said no is going to be the guy from the jazz. No, he's definitely not winning.

Anthony:

No, no, no, no, no,

Jeff:

no the episodes. Episode 28. You said the guy from the Utah Jazz was winning it. Episode 20. And I said oh, look it up.

Anthony:

Did I say Did I say couldn't sign out the same? I

Jeff:

didn't say Monte William. You said the guy from the, from the from the jet from the Utah Jazz. Okay, because their first player they had the best record, whatever, whatever. Okay, cool.

Anthony:

So so what I'm trying to say is that if if neither one of them when you don't owe me anything?

Jeff:

No, typicals is winning. You're gonna go be $20 Tim's gonna wait, let me give you the numbers. Okay.

Anthony:

Hold on a minute before you can give me the numbers. You got demonstrate that Tim's gonna tibideaux is gonna win, bro. Do you have a much better time than I am?

Jeff:

Yes. And not just not not not because I'm a bias knick fan?

Anthony:

Do you want to double a doubling up? You want? No, I can make it 40. So you can make it and therefore you don't have to give me 20 and you get 40. But think about it you are now you can think about there

Jeff:

has to be a caveat. caveat though you have to say who you think is gonna win. And if your guy doesn't win, and you know, then there's no money wins. Or now you want money Williams and the only reason he's picking money Williams is because his peers just named him Coach of the Year. They had like this little bootleg award that they do amongst the coaches of the league. And they named Monty Williams of the Phoenix Suns Coach of the Year. And when I saw that I thought that was the legit Coach of the Year award. And I was like, Damn, I owe Anthony $20. To his credit, he was honest enough to say no, no, that's not the real award. That's just Sunday do amongst the coaches, it's the coaches have, you know, whatever amongst his peers. The actual NBA Coach of the Year award has not been announced. So that's the only reason he thinks they're gonna give it to Monty Williams. They're not going to give it a Monty Williams and I'll tell you why. They already gave him his peers. Why? Cuz he's a great guy. He had like a son that died of cancer, whatever it is, they felt sorry for him. He's done a great job. Yeah, he has the sons at the second seed. But what Tom tibideaux did with the Knicks, improving them 20 games from the last year. It's one of the most historic one year turnarounds in the history in the history of sports, bro, I'm telling you that right now. For a team that didn't pick up any all stars and superstars. They didn't make us a super team. They didn't pick up LeBron James Kevin deranging harden, they didn't go out and create a super team is what I'm saying. They basically had the same structured team as last year, and improved 20 games, the next 121 games last year, and in a shortened season, they won 41 which means if it would have been a full season, they would win even more. Check us out. Tom Thibodeau this year look by the numbers winning percentage were 11. Okay, we're limited really, even the last year we were like one of the last day we were like, We were like 27th. We were like 27 to 28 last year. So going up. So we're 11 three point field goal percentage, we are third in the league. We were one of the worst last year, we were in the bottom third of the league last year. Opponents points against this is where Tom Thibodeau was a master at improving the defense opponent points against them It means is the amount of points they score against us. We're number one in the entirely we only hold teams to like 104 points, or pointing opponents field goal percentage against us. We're number one in the league. Opponents three point field goal percentage. We're number one in the league last year, we're like the last we were like number 30 at the new league and defensive rating fourth in the entire league. Go ahead. Now you tell me why you think money Williams is gonna win it. Besides the fact that they just gave him the you know, the little bullshit award amongst his peers. you defend it though.

Anthony:

They're winning percent what's 11th in the league, so there were 10 teams really improved

Jeff:

20 games over last year. Okay, sons who had the probably arguably the best point guard in the history of the game, and Paul and Chris Paul, whoa, boy down. He is literally one of the best point guards of all time. And you will even admit that he's the best point guard we've seen in the last 20 years in the NBA of this generation. Okay, I'll give you that. Devin Booker, one of the best scores in the entire league. Am I wrong?

Anthony:

Whose points were games went down? Am

Jeff:

I wrong? Yes. He's not one of the best he ever was, like 26 726 27 points again. What are you talking about his points when and he's still averaging almost 30 points a game. So what are you talking about? Is he now one of the best scores in the league? Just answer the question. Yeah, the top five or six, maybe even top 10. Okay. Andre, Aiden. Is he not one of the best young big man in the league? Right now? Sure. Macau bridges. What I'm saying is my point is they have a they have better talent, a better roster. Yes. They're on the Western Conference. They're in a tougher conference, I get all of that. That being said, they have better players. And they only improved, you know, by like, what 18 wins from last year, which is great is remarkable. But the Knicks improved by 20. We improved by 20 Games. When was the last time a team has done that. from one year to the next with the exception of super teams like when Miami got together with LeBron and everybody and stuff like that. without picking any superstars. We had the same exact team Randall got better. Yes, he became an all star this year. And he wasn't even selected by the fans. He was selected by like the coaches. You know, we had other players that stepped up and became better this year. But it was Tom tibideaux, bro. It's Tom tibideaux that instilled you know, the defensive schemes that made everybody better in the team, bro. So again, you tell me what was the last time a team improved 20 games from one year to the next. That's unheard of bro. In any sport. Anyway,

Anthony:

you're trying to make this point and trying to make this clear, like cuz

Jeff:

I'm not because you You seem you're misunderstanding. I'm not saying that the Knicks are the best team. I'm not saying they're better than the suns. No, we're not. I'm not saying we're better than the Utah Jazz. We're not better than any of these teams. But the award is Coach of the Year who impacted their team the most who improved the most from one year to the next. This is his first year with us. He came in this year and improve the team dramatically got us in the playoffs. We haven't been to the playoffs in a decade. got us 20 more wins than last year. Come on, man. You got to give the award to him, bro. What he did is crazy. Monty Williams and his sons played in a tougher conference. He had a lot of players they had

Anthony:

they had one. We had one.

Jeff:

They had to they have Booker

Anthony:

and Paul, what are you talking about? Booker wasn't voted in Booker was an interview replacement.

Jeff:

Okay, and so it was random.

Anthony:

No, no brainer. was voted on. He

Jeff:

wasn't voted in, go look it up. He wasn't voted and he was voted in by the coaches. The coaches selected him.

Anthony:

right because he wasn't a starter. So he still got voted into the all star. Oh, yes. So the Devin Booker. No, he didn't. Why do we do this all the time? He tried to correct me you should already know because you make it seem like Randall is in the same level. That's some of the actual legit all star like Randall had a very good year this year. He's one of the you know, they know you're saying you're saying that they had to all stars and I said they had one voted in. So did the Knicks the other gods haven't been replaced with somebody who got hurt. They got

Jeff:

to all stars got the all star game if they had to play them the two guys playing in the all star game. They played

Anthony:

in the heart of conference, they had the second best reckon they had the second best record in the league, not in the West in the league. And outside of that, when should we take Tom Tibbles record? It's the 11th best in the entire conference.

Jeff:

If they were in the West, they'd be out of the breakout, Chris Paul from the suns and well with the record, you can't play. You can't play camp. Yes, you can't play it. Because if anybody in the suns is going to win Coach of the Year as Chris Paul, that's what needs to win much.

Anthony:

He's the coach. But he just said, If you can't play if, if you did this, there's no if the record is there,

Jeff:

then why don't we just give the coach of the year to the to the jazz coach. And just like you said on episode 28, you said it was going to be him. Now you're switching up to Monty Williams. Right. So let's give it to the jazz guy. They had the best record in the league, if that's what we're going by,

Anthony:

is that the criteria we're going by? Right And like I said, they have one of the better records last year and he won last year, but he probably won't give them to him this year. It wasn't a draft

Jeff:

of the best team. It's about which coast and had the bigger better impacts. It's like the MVP award. You know, they never give the MVP award to the best player because it would have been Jordan every year would have been LeBron every year those you know they give it to the guy who impacted the team the most. So you're telling me that tip story is better than most what I'm saying yes.

Anthony:

A guy you take a branch out on and everything else like that. It's a better story. And they improved and improved defensively. What is what the guy does? Yeah,

Jeff:

it's one of those one year turnarounds in history bro

Anthony:

then double down I'll take money Williams double down triple down. I'm

Jeff:

not doing it. What's your bro I just last one. You got

Anthony:

you got this much faith in the team right? Just did triple did double down. You are so good. You are so convinced that he's gonna win but you don't wanna put your money up on it.

Mikey:

It's easy. It didn't it's easy money. Easy, Jeff. Just give it to him in Bitcoin or Dogecoin word Oh, that's

Jeff:

just going down. But I'm losing all kinds of you know.

Anthony:

I told you don't fall for banana in the tailpipe man.

Jeff:

I should have withdrawn probably what?

Anthony:

I told you don't fall for banana in the tailpipe man, you

Jeff:

gotta be patient and it's not patient. It's stocks.

Anthony:

And no, it's cryptocurrencies? No, no, no, it's not because cryptocurrency is in stock, or she fucking that's not the same,

Jeff:

but it requires patience. It requires no Bitcoin, like 20 years ago when the show was only like, you know, $5 or whatever. are now multimillionaires, bro. You know, I'm saying what the ones that were painful. Yeah. But that don't

Mikey:

do anything real though.

Anthony:

If you're making that point, but guess who was bought something 20 years ago and probably millionaires, you know, it's called Amazon.

Mikey:

Right? And it's you know what, and it's based on a company's performance. It's not based off of like what Ilan musk says right? This is like

Anthony:

crypto like a popularity contest. The moment that Ilan musk says something is false. He says something great it rise rate. And like, it's not like everybody owns it. It's a very small percentage of people who own it. All I gotta do is pull a money out and everything crumbles,

Mikey:

right? It took a face it's like a faith based investment

Anthony:

and how to trust many are to click I'm going to go ahead and give you my money willingly. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I got to get it's like I understand it. Like they want to have something different but like to the thing about I always tell people if you're going to have money in Dogecoin crypt, any kind of cryptocurrency if you get to a point where you're comfortable, pull that money out and just put into a mutual fund. Right let it grow. Yeah, wealth has developed over time everybody can like I'm getting rich overnight. Like No, no, it doesn't work that way.

Jeff:

Right? It you get you get financially have to start just gonna have to be a Patreon episode. If we give it

Mikey:

FTS, you

Anthony:

have to charge but I'm not. I'm not giving financial advice. I'm giving logical advice. Why would you invest in something so well? It's like It's like this. Imagine you had a grenade and if I told you if you pull that pin off that grenade in exactly 10 seconds to the blow up so you probably know within that time but if I told you to pull the pin in a gradient and I don't know when it's going to blow up, you pull it you might be died one minute, five minutes 18 you don't know that's what crypto is you just don't know how it's gonna go. Like I said your your even your best earning stock doesn't earn 15 100% in a span of months it's impossible was to vault but if you wanted to, nobody would ever do that.

Mikey:

Yeah. Right. I mean, it's, I mean, the thing for me is like the best way to invest money is I in my mind is real estate is land, land ownership property. Like that's the most steady thing I

Jeff:

appreciate about you. That's like the only thing that appreciates in value medium, of course. Yeah.

Mikey:

Yeah. And it's like even Steven blue chip stocks, like they're, they're difficult because they're gonna jump all over the place, but not nowhere near as volatile. Right

Anthony:

as any anything with the blue chips that it might dip a little bit but consistently over time, it's always going to keep rising.

Mikey:

Yeah, yeah, the thing is, you can't live in a Bitcoin. No, you know, like, you buy your house, you can live in your fucking house, you know, but it's just, I mean, the fact that Bitcoin and Dogecoin like, jumped so much. I mean, Dogecoin especially, is like that shit is, is a parlor trick. I mean, the fact that people have been, I mean, I bought some didn't buy it early enough, didn't put enough money in. But I mean, it's like, you knew that that was gonna be a quick burn, like Bitcoin is the blue chip of the kryptos. And it's, you know, but it's tied to nothing. Like it's not tied to the success of a business. It's not tied to the, to anything, but just like, a bunch of nerds that are like that. It's gonna do well. And when Ilan musk says something that, you know, the cult kind of follows. But yeah, I'll still be playing with that funding money. Oh, yeah, for sure. And if you got in and got out at the right time, then Bless you. But like, nobody really did that. I mean, very few people that did, you know, executed at the right times.

Anthony:

They like, Oh, my God, my, my dog was caught. And like, this whole thing is like, they keep making up different kind of cryptocurrencies that everyone's jumping on like, yeah, my whole thing like, after all these years, you probably don't know what a pyramid scheme is. This is this. You're wondering, it's a Ponzi scheme. It's literally a

Jeff:

scheme what I'm selling. You know, I really love

Anthony:

right, but the whole the whole thing, like, if that drops out, did you hear about some new shit to came up? It'd be the next new one, and the next one and the next one. Like, they're playing with your emotions, like stop doing this, like go to work, like everybody else. I know, you want to be like, I really don't want to work. I want to make a lot of money to do whatever, then actually take some of your salary and actually invest it in stock and mutual funds and so on, so forth. futures, whatever,

Jeff:

but if I keep doing this, I'll be checking that shit every day. Like no shit went up by saying I'm like, Yes, like Marv Albert. Just like a way to read.

Mikey:

Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, it's green. It's green. Yes. When it's like, it's just become like, too popular and talked about now. It's like a band when like, you know, like, like anybody who like gets popular and then suddenly, they're shit, but the quality of it feels like I'm just like, everybody knows about it. Now. I'm not into it. It's the same way I feel about hip hop or about music. I'm like, have too many people were into it. I'm not into anymore.

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah. Speaking of more about retirement, and I think after the first round of the playoffs, he said he did for him, freaking guy.

Anthony:

I mean, he hasn't been the voice of the Knicks for a long time. It's been a

Jeff:

year because they fired his number. He had the whole scandal back in the day, where he was like, he was biting he was biting women. He was like sexually harassing women and biting them

Mikey:

oh my god he was really getting after

Anthony:

you I keep trying to find the people man yo don't believe in your heroes don't just you like your parents are like the people who are important to you but not not not celebrities trust

Jeff:

me but your before your delegate just point you before we get off this MBA and what are your wars you think going I mean I'm not trying to make them more bets with you. We're gonna keep it just Coach of the Year but I'm curious to know like who you think is gonna win

Anthony:

you know just just just say you broke is

Jeff:

definitely not but I think we both agree on MVP is gonna be Nicola joke ish. Yeah Joker cheese I think we both agree on what is the Improved Player Most Improved Player Julius Randle enjoy is gonna coach you here we don't agree in with sixth man. They got Derrick Rose is nominated. But it might be one of those guys with a jazz right

Anthony:

prior to joining us Jones

Jeff:

is number one.

Anthony:

I mean Derrick Rose coming off the bench is averaging like 16 points for the next 16 points or like four or five assists good numbers when you got but when you got two guys up for six men and eight I mean, they mean, but I know it's in those clocks and rows, but it probably it probably be Ingles. Not by much though. Clocks income surprise, giving you fire been surprised RJ Barrett

Jeff:

is not mentioned in the conversation for most improved. I mean, he said you shouldn't win it over random but he improved in all his numbers. You only got three spots. Yeah.

Anthony:

What are the two people?

Jeff:

Is Randall and the two guys from the judge? No. Wait most improved. I'm guessing RJ Barrett is in there. Because Because he's not most improvement knocked off. Not every nickel meal for every Ward and I'm not saying he's the most improved. I'm saying he's vastly improved from last year. All his numbers went up. Yeah, for shooting percentages. The game is rebounding, everything went up. So you should be okay with improved players or your numbers go up.

Anthony:

He still can depend on us so don't worry about it. So it's Julius Randle, Jeremy grant and Michael Porter now are you don't belong in defensive play? It is Rudy dreamland and Ben Simmons priority And yeah oh and we're gonna you mellow mellow mellow mellow is gonna win yeah Mel is gonna win that see that was easy no stress no mess

Jeff:

Oh I forgot to mention and Mike you don't watch baseball Do you know the Yankees my Corey kluber pitch the no hitter which no but no hitters Mikey sheet he mean

Mikey:

there's no hits in it that's what I know about

Anthony:

so what happens is nine innings in the game and no nobody

Mikey:

got it sounds boring as fuck.

Jeff:

Very simple man because you're not a baseball fan but I was watching every day like

Anthony:

no don't don't don't listen to Jeff maybe trippin cuz when the season started he hated them. I can't stand the Yankees. I'm never watching them again. They go on little winning streak like Alright, alright, I'll kick back and watch this seems good

Jeff:

but you already notice how am I do that with the next two they lose a couple games. I'm like, the worst. They went like five or six in a row. I'm

Anthony:

like, Yes, we the best. And my and my kids are bullshit. It's been like eight no hitter so far to see that he mentioned the one by the Yankee guy cuz

Jeff:

that's the one that just happened. What are you talking about that just happened to call it just the most local to you?

Anthony:

You're right. We've literally been on here every week. It has been like, I know here too. Every week. We never made Jabba does he come court Cooper.

Jeff:

Neither of those in my team would have brought them up. But you ain't care about them either.

Anthony:

Cuz I don't watch baby boy. It's boring. It's super boring.

Mikey:

And you just have to be a numbers person. Like I feel like if you're like a statistician if you're like someone who geeks out over numbers, it's like baseball's your shit. Like, I don't know, I don't need to watch a bunch of out of shape. Dude, it's all about analytics basically do nothing.

Anthony:

Like I don't like like people go to baseball games to yell at millionaires. I find it to be hilarious. That's every sport like, Yeah, but I mean sometimes the sport they love you button baseball and like, fuck you like, Yeah, he's making $28 million a year. He's he doesn't hear you at all. Just the sound of money in his ear.

Jeff:

We go into one of these Knicks playoff game, bro. $1,000 was good. That was not as a ticket.

Anthony:

Get the fuck out here. No, absolutely not.

Jeff:

Yoda shit sold out in 20 minutes, bro. This is crazy, bro. These fans are ridiculous.

Mikey:

How many people are they allowed in the stadium though? Yeah, like

Jeff:

they're allowing 15,000 18,000 it was originally 13,000. Right? Cuomo allowed the Knicks to have 13,000 the shit sold out in like 20 minutes. So he was like, damn it. Let's let's add a couple 1000 more to try to make that money that you're trying to recoup. Everybody gonna eat from this shit. So it was that MSG? MSG. So it went from 13 to 15,000

Mikey:

watts capacity there

Jeff:

was not a lot

Mikey:

like 20 or 3022. Oh, wow. So it's like half capacity. Right? Yeah, that's a lot do that's still a lot of people in one room and

Jeff:

they said this is gonna be the biggest indoor crowd and you know, since the pandemic or something like that, for basketball, is that what they said? No, I think is the first indoor event that's gonna have the most people

Anthony:

know Candela Candela just had

Jeff:

66,000 people were there. They were in Vegas.

Mikey:

Yeah.

Jeff:

Hey, right. Okay, so let me rephrase that. It's gonna be the What's that? What's condello? boxing? boxing?

Mikey:

The boxing? Oh, yeah, no shit. Okay. Last week, crazy.

Anthony:

In a New Vegas he had six. Don't give up shit, bro. Like Texas, Florida. Dude, Vegas. Nevada doesn't give a shit

Mikey:

dude. At all. I never believe that COVID was real. They're like yeah, just everybody just coming together man.

Anthony:

No masks. Yeah, smoke all you want me to have believing in the artifice and like I'm going to trust you taking off your mask fuck no.

Mikey:

Have you Did you see that shit after the CDC announcement that the level of Google searches for fake vaccination cards went up by 2,000% Oh really? Fucking scumbag you are if you have a fake vaccination card,

Anthony:

like a fake COVID car fake COVID idealists people making money

Jeff:

off of the ship. Oh, hell yeah. Selling fake cards.

Anthony:

Yeah, but if they do that, you're going to prison. God damn, you're going to prison. You know who was going to prison all the people doing doing the PPP loans game? Oh, yeah. I can't wait. Yeah, they're

Mikey:

gonna figure you out, bro.

Jeff:

Pregnant they don't go to prison though. Uncle Sam is gonna ask for his money come tax time. You know, I mean, they got like, oh, wait a minute. You got all this money. You owe some shit.

Anthony:

Right. But the whole thing is that it wasn't like something local. You did it to the federal government. It's a federal crime. Oh, yeah. federal crimes. Do you generally go to prison?

Mikey:

Yeah. And that's a real prison too. That's not some like Country Club prison. Like you're going to real jail.

Anthony:

Yeah, you're going to jail.

Mikey:

Yeah. So and then Amazon and then Amazon didn't pay any taxes again.

Jeff:

Nope. Get the fuck out of here. Got all this kind of they get away with that. I don't charity. We donate it to charity. No, no,

Anthony:

that's a handjobs I look. I'm not gonna do it here. It's convoluted, but it's a way that you can kind of avoid the tax. It's

Jeff:

super Donald Trump working for them. He's on the payroll. Oh, my God. It's

Anthony:

not I mean, the state of New York by the fall charges against him he got to go to jail jail to do you think so? They go and like I said when when it's the Eastern District in New York, they really haven't really hit high success rate

Mikey:

and so it's Southern or Eastern?

Anthony:

Southern sorry. Yeah. So what they try to do like they don't really bring a case against you on every unless they're gonna win every

Mikey:

audit, right? Yeah, like, but he's not gonna go to jail though.

Anthony:

I mean, he's just a citizen now.

Mikey:

I mean, a rich, a rich white dude, going to jail in general doesn't have to be rich and wow, he's richer than I am.

Anthony:

I mean, we all are.

Mikey:

I mean, he's worked the whole thing like he's worked maybe 900 million? I don't know. That's rich. Yeah, in Bitcoin. But I mean, it's like the chances of him going to actual jail, I think are 2%

Anthony:

but the thing is that like, say the president Well, he just the private citizen.

Mikey:

Yeah, dude, I think he's gonna win in 2024.

Anthony:

I mean, it was about to get with homeboy, yourself. Oh,

Mikey:

Jeff.

Anthony:

Epstein, Epstein. Everybody to hit him up out of here until he mysteriously died. So he was killed by the royal family. Right.

Mikey:

The British. We're moving on.

Anthony:

We're doing conspiracy theory. We aren't we've been

Mikey:

Oh, you guys. Yeah. You guys already did do yeah,

Anthony:

we are moving forward. Yeah,

Mikey:

totally. I just think the idea. I mean, dude, I'm like, I don't think Trump's gonna go to President and I think he's gonna fucking run in 2024. And like, when the shit out of the presidency again. And that scares the hell out of me. Jeffrey, how's

Anthony:

the real estate in Dominican Republic?

Jeff:

Is that a real question?

Anthony:

I'm not doing this. Like I'm kidding. I mean, my face doesn't didn't look like I'm kidding. So I'm not kidding.

Jeff:

Yeah, wifey bought some land recently in Punta Cana?

Anthony:

Well, I'm like if you've got 24 when I start building some shit out there because I'm not gonna build a house in abijah we can just go over

Mikey:

which way

Anthony:

Jeff? Dog there's no go over there. I'm going to stay man I'm not coming back. But you know if you put him back in the office, you know him bring it back. Slavery is on the board. Oh, for sure. It does seem like the realm of possibility

Mikey:

and people are pumped about that. Like a lot of his supporters were like fuck yeah, dude, slavery is awesome. Are you kidding

Anthony:

13th amendment scratch but yeah, no, no,

Mikey:

I'm I'm totally I'm down to move right Jeff your wife by Atlanta Punta Cana me and her bought land Yes. Oh tight Let's all move there. Look at our record there

Jeff:

Yeah, we can move Mike we put our money together. today guys house and once we own this shit like there's no taxes at nine that you got to pay out there. Huh? Really? Yeah. Once you own the show you own this shit is not like hey, like you got to pay property tax like no guy owns the property. Whoa.

Anthony:

Hey, Jeff. Jeff, how do you how do you say Breaking Bad in Spanish? Whoo. Breaking Bad in San Jose Mala. Home

Jeff:

b&o. malo something like that.

Anthony:

We're gonna be gonna be cooking up Mexican. Dr. I'm

Mikey:

telling you. My math is delicious. say like, it's so good. I mean, I'm a chef for a reason. barbecue sauce is super good. And my math is delicious. So let's do it. Yeah, speaking of barber I've been trying to

Jeff:

I bought YouTube and I've been on Amazon. I bought this new hot sauce by the Steve. Oh, you seen that shit. It's called Steve O's hot sauce for your ass. You know, read the reviews and they Odisha is good and spicy. So I bought the show just came in today I put some on a slice of pizza. It's just good as though it has a kick to it. But it's not like nasty. I like a flavor. But it's basically addicted to spite my job. So that's what soju the hot sauce or the ass part and said, you know, relax, pause. Let's keep rolling shirts. evils hot sauce for your ass. Yeah, I got that.

Mikey:

I love that you bought that. I liked it. He can still make money off of his name and the fact that he'll like he's willing to do fucking anything. And now he's also on a bottle of hot sauce with a bottle of hot sauce.

Jeff:

He has a show too. He has like a podcast, too. He had met the man on the air recently. And he spoke about remember the time when he got on stage but naked like when they were trying to commemorate odb when odb had just died and the Wu Tang I forgot it was some awards. And Wu Tang was no Steve. Oh, no. No, no. So what happened was it was I forget what awards it was and Wu Tang is on stage. And you know, like what odb his family was there was some right after OBD odb had died. And they're paying tribute to him. And Steven just runs in and he's like naked. He thought it was he was like oh, this is for odb dunes. You know what I mean? I guess he thought he was that was his way of paying homage odb just doing some stupid. So he did. He did it. But uh, who was the Recon recon grabbed his ass, grab them by the neck. And he was like, Yo, what the fuck? You better go out there and apologize to you know, old dirty family, bro. What the hell's wrong with you what you're doing blah, blah. So he spoke about it on his podcast. We've met them man, you know, he's talking. He was like, Yeah, he was like, Yo, I have a problem with it. Because I knew you know, I knew you. I knew where he was coming from. I knew I know your heart. You know what I'm saying? But the rest of my brothers you know, they don't know you like that. So they was gonna approach you in a different way. You don't you know, come on, man. You got to know your audio. You can walk around with Wu Tang, bro.

Mikey:

Yeah, these are the centers. I don't be a dumb tech. Yeah,

Anthony:

I just I just really don't pay much attention on White Boy nods and for that it completely slipped my mind.

Mikey:

I mean there's so much white boy nonsense it's non fucking stop like Tick Tock is all based off of basically white breed nonsense like just all the dumb shit that like Jake Paul and all those idiots are doing it's like fuck you but this so right but Wu Tang is one of those people that you don't do that to you or with you know that you don't just don't play around with them. Everybody knows that

Anthony:

right? But you're not white boy.

Jeff:

You're not reading the room with a bunch of missing, like, like Wu Tang,

Mikey:

the amount of the amount of white dad's like, where I live that will rock Wu Tang shirts and stuff and I'm like, really? Like do you really know about Wu Tang or you just like it's just cool because you like ride a skateboard and you're 45 years old. Like I don't know Wu Tang has been appropriated as like a fucking brand at this point. And I'm like, dude, like Wu Tang is a real thing. And like a real like an actual like hard band like nobody's wearing fucking grizelda shirts. Because they're like, Oh, those guys will actually kill me not yet at least

Jeff:

the Wu Tang these are the same guys that stepped to a comic book artists for they didn't like the way that he depicted them in his drawings. I forget the guy's name I don't know that sorry. Yeah, look that shit up be this comic book. My person. I'm not sure they beat him up but they just stepped to him and they you know threatened him or whatnot. Like you know what the fuck you made us look goofy you made it you know whatever. Cuz he made caricatures of the character of each of them right big has you know big lips whatever the case was, and they felt some type of way about it. So they figured out what he was gonna be and they when they went over there like Yo, you don't fuck with us. Like if I was a fucking wreck, but if I was like in the industry that's just like a cup. There's like a handful of artists that I won't even mention Wu Tang is definitely one of them. Probably m&m too just because they just they just have so much Apple back in the month they have like a machine like Eminem has the machine behind them you know I'm saying not only because yeah, he can kill you lyrically on a song but just because he has the machine he has like the whole Dr. Dre machine behind them so it's just certain people you have to know your limits you know what I mean? And then of course Wu Tang you definitely don't want to mention him at all or even sound like them or look at their way

Anthony:

you know next topic man is back and I'm talking about squaring up i square we're squaring up with the wound

Jeff:

right would you alright so you're wrapping right but he mmm is gonna show up with like 100 people bro. Well, he's got a bunch of desperate

Mikey:

guys behind the whole deal to impress him

Jeff:

you know he got Royster five nine he got the whole Dr. Dre camp. You got the whole g unit like you're not just gonna

Mikey:

fight is what I'm saying. The comment that aunt made about Magoo washing this car is like I feel like that. That adds up for everybody that's in D 12. It's like m&m made $500 million. And everybody else's washing cars. Like

Jeff:

I think they all I think they all eat and steal from from their m&ms fame. From the couple of little made with him and shit.

Anthony:

A 30 am I got some I got carried away for you.

Mikey:

That's true. Lil Wayne doesn't know that. But

Anthony:

wait on myself. I got a little windows. Oh man. Oh God, I just love drugs. Just Just love drugs. I'm

Mikey:

cool. I'm so patient. You guys. I'm off the grid. I

Anthony:

got this. Couple bars, some pros, some pros and some convincing methods. Whatever the fuck man. I don't know.

Jeff:

I'm not a drug guy. Less than fetta means less tempted means

Anthony:

Look, look, whatever. Don't you reckon in your drug? I don't Yeah, I'm good. I'm not. I might. Yeah,

Jeff:

whatever happened to the whatever happened with the Joe button situation because I heard a chick has coming out. What was that chick that came out? And you know, and I even had realized there was an actual episode where he's like, basically harassing her on air. You know,

Mikey:

I'm talking about I read about that.

Jeff:

Yeah, I have to go back and listen to the episode. You know, when probably the first time you hear you probably think they're just joking around. But she comes out and he was like, yo, he made me feel really uncomfortable. You know what I mean? Blah, blah, blah. This is why I left the show. It's another

Anthony:

one of those you got to know your audience thing is like especially with women, just because you think you're cool with her doesn't mean that you're cool with her. Like in that way,

Jeff:

but I feel like you know Joe is down now so we're gonna hear more people we're gonna hear from more people now gonna be coming out like Yeah, he did did he said this? You know, I stopped messing with him because it is like, they're gonna kick him off. He's down and he's gonna have all types of people coming out saying that he don't they don't mess we have no more

Anthony:

emotion. It happens man. And they're still gonna mess it up is fine. But like I said, the thing about Joe here just has a tendency to be a little bit self destructive. Yeah, happens throughout his entire career. He he builds a house he burns down and built another one. The final one isn't

Mikey:

that what makes this show interesting? Like, oh, he was just like, like, I don't want to listen to like Diddy's podcast, right? Like I don't want to listen to someone who's like been super successful but like button was like an interesting dude you listen to because he was like, every guy he had some success but he was also like, just a normal guy that like kind of seen some shit but also it was like, able to be like, I didn't kill it. Yeah, like

Anthony:

he was moderately success, right like he had a hit. No, like, it's a known lyricist, and so on and so forth with some symbols of popularity, but it's because he's knows the industry in and out, being like inside of it and outside of it. So he has a different perspective that most people respect. But it was it was never about Joe is always about them three together, because the camaraderie of all them talking. And it seems like you don't want to listen to a podcast, like just a regular conversation between a couple of guys. And also you look at the phone or whatever, and like all 90 minutes have passed, like, Damn, like, yeah, makes you feel comfortable. So he's gonna carry this on his own with that, yeah, clearly, he's gonna bring out guests and stuff like that. Like,

Jeff:

I just think he's a bad business person. He's definitely terrible with people. And if you're trying to be successful in the industry, like, you've got to build relationships with people, and I'm saying, and he just burns every bridge, he probably has like zero relationships with anybody, like he has no friends in the industry as to why he has just walked out on him. So

Mikey:

right when, like you talked about on that last episode, where like you were talking about, you know, like, the biggest bummer about it all is that like, it was just fun to listen to them, because you were like, these guys have actual friends. Like these guys actually care about each other. And then what's the thing that breaks them up money, like, fuck that dude, that's like such a, it's such a boring thing to have broken them up. But it's also so standard. It's what happens in every business,

Jeff:

when what I was understanding is that they had a contract. Lorrie Moore had a contract where they get paid a percentage of whatever the show makes. So they felt like they was you know, being gypped, I guess. And Joe was saying, like, he had other things like, you know, a Patreon page, this page that that was just his that had nothing to do with the show. That's what I was understanding from the show, he was saying, like, if I have a Patreon, that's what me you know, to me, you know, if I have if I put out my cash app, login information, that's what me that's not for the show. So that, you know, they don't get a percentage of that. He was also saying like, he was overpaying them, right? Didn't he say some shit like that? Like he was saying, like, that was paying more

Anthony:

than they were supposed to begin? Yeah, but some degree, but like I said, if you're, if your business is based on the profit percentage based on his business, so like, if you make x then my shares this, your shares that you share is that, but does it mean that you're going to be the sole person seeking out deals? Because if I can see got to deal with my own? Do? Do we still bust down a brick from

Jeff:

the original deal that we got to look at them contracts?

Anthony:

Right? And after they asked me for, like, we need you to open the books, because if we're percentage base, we didn't know what the the growth is. So we know what our totals are.

Jeff:

I guess he didn't like that. And then if you don't have nothing to hide, and you open the books, like what's the problem? And I'm saying,

Mikey:

well, Every business has something to hide, of course, and the number one thing with like any business relationship is you have to get all that shit like ironclad at the beginning, like before, there's any success before any money is made. You have to have a dialed in and it sounds like they kind of did like, oh, we're homies, like, gonna like soup? Yeah, we're not gonna worry about like all the details, and then it blew up. Did they ever talk about actual numbers? Like what the guys are actually getting? They never mentioned numbers. They refused to do that. I was hoping I mean, for them to say some shit. I mean, if they're like the second biggest because it was the second biggest up to up to Joe Rogan. Yeah,

Jeff:

I think so. Yeah,

Mikey:

I mean, that's real money. Dude. We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. Like

Jeff:

I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I don't know if it's hundreds of millions. I don't know if it's I mean, Joe Rogan's do Rogan probably makes hundreds of millions I don't know

Mikey:

if Joe Budden because he just got what like 200 million or something to go to Spotify?

Jeff:

Yeah. Oh, really? button is not even on Spotify. No more there deal with Spotify finished, but I think he has said that the original deal was like 500,000. But some shit like that. Obviously, it was probably more towards the end. had to be Joe Joe Rogan's over $200 million. I was 100 for how many for like 120 years.

Anthony:

I know this is a multi year deal when he

Mikey:

and he I when I originally read about it. It made him the highest paid personality on in media, like higher paid than anybody. That's something like that. That's crazy. Do you guys listen to

Jeff:

it? I watch it sometimes on YouTube. Like if he has, he has somebody that I'm interested in, you know, watching the interview. Yeah, same thing with Noriega. I watched the Noriega drink champs shit. If he has people like, you know, he had the fat job recently. So I watched that, because I was interested in hearing what he had to say about big punch family. What do you had to say about Cuban link that he's beefing with?

Anthony:

What do you what do you think?

Jeff:

there's always two sides of the story. And like I've always you know how I felt about this topic, because I've always I'm a big big punk fan. I got him in my top five more time. And I've been salty at the fact that you know, his wife has been struggling his son who's a dope ass rapper hasn't really made it you know what I mean? He's, he's just basically like an underground rapper. You know? He has songs you know where like, he has a song like Vinnie pass. He got songs like some Wu Tang people. Yeah, he had a song he has. He has a song with Noriega. Look, what's his What does he perform under? What's his name, Chris rivers, which is basically the English translation of his his name and Spanish. Christopher reos is their name is Jr. And it was his dad's name too. So they just took Rios and flipped it to rivers, which is Just for reals.

Mikey:

And he's not on Terror Squad or anything, right?

Jeff:

No, that's what I'm saying. He's not he's an underground rapper. He's dope. He sounds just like a dad. But look him up. He has a song with Vinny pads I should is dope. And they were, you know, when you look at interviews with Chris rivers and he talks about how Yeah, yeah, we grew up broke. Um, you know, just cuz my dad was Big Pun, I don't know what it is to be rich and we grew up in shelters, we were homeless. And I'm like, I hear these interviews and I'm like, yo, how is that even possible, bro, that one of the dopest rappers ever the best Latino rapper of all time and millions of dollars and his and he passes away and his family's broken there. You know? So I always held that against Fat Joe you know what I'm saying? And when I see like a guy like Puff Daddy always bigging up biggie. You know, I mean, to this day, they're still making money off a big U turn on the radio, you still hear juicy on the radio, Faith Evans a couple years ago had an album with Biggie they just did just keep rehearsing, you know, rehashing old Biggie verses and making albums. And I see and I see that and I don't see Fat Joe doing that. So he addresses that during this drink champs episode. You know, he basically said that he gave the family everything they had they supposedly they own which is hard for me to believe. But he said that he gave bitcoins family the rights to everything. The catalog, you know, all the royalties all the the name everything. He says he hasn't made $1 off of big puns since he passed. He said he gave you know puns wife all kinds of money and she just kept blowing it and blowing and he said eventually like yeah, we can't just keep you know giving you money. Just because you big puns wife's actually. So it's like, Okay, I get where he's coming from the axiom about his son to about you know, Noriega actually wants to put his son on his son. He's like, Yo, I'm always being I can't keep being the nice guy. You know, I mean, I can't keep hitting the good guy. I can't keep reaching out. They don't want nothing to do with me. And they keep telling lies about me. So because he also said that they were trying to do a documentary or a movie, a big porn movie. But you obviously can't do a big porn movie without Fat Joe being in it. But he said his wife the punch wife approached him about it. He said the only way he'll do it. And he said he won't take no money or nothing. He'll give all the money to the family. But he said the only way he'll do it is that she comes out and tells the truth and says that she's been lying this whole time that Joe never took money from them never stole no money that they he doesn't owe him nine. He basically just wanted her to clean his name. You know what I mean? I just tell the truth clean my name and then I'll do it and she said she couldn't do that. So the accident because before you know I don't work. I don't know.

Anthony:

She's hilarious.

Jeff:

I don't know what it is.

Anthony:

I believe Joe I 1,000% believe it too. Well, you can you can you can say the two sides of the story shit for whoever you want to. Because if Joe had some kind of ownership or claim on puns legacy, you would hear about him all the time the way you hear about what big and puff you would hear Fat Joe put them on everything. Because like say if if Bitcoin had all these recordings right? And Lexa Joe's been releasing music, he could put on a track here track there versus having

Jeff:

some unreleased punches.

Anthony:

Yeah, right. But But if he had it, he would have played by Yeah. Man to keep his legacy I would, every time I come up with an album if I got I forgot to fire track with this person, that person. I'm gonna put this putting verse on it every single time never happens. Because Yeah,

Mikey:

you can call it real. You think Khalid wouldn't have used that ASAP makalah will use that punch it non stop you right?

Jeff:

You're probably right. I also hold it again. I've always held it against Remy to that she doesn't mention pun more. You know, I'm saying, you know, I don't know. I don't know if she, I mean, she doesn't have an obligation to but as the guy that discovered you, you know what I'm saying? I felt like she should be beating him up more.

Anthony:

I don't know you shit. It's I don't always shit especially when your family acts

Jeff:

if it has nothing to do with the family. He discovered her in the streets. And she's probably now regarded as probably one of the best female artists as you know, I mean ever. It doesn't hurt you to shout him out every once in a while in a song assigned like you know, big you know, whatever big upon whatever. You know, make a song with his son you know i mean it has nothing to do with the family has nothing to do with Joe just do it for you. Obviously she's you know, she's loyal to Joe obviously. He put her on and he's made a you know, he she make him rich.

Anthony:

She literally said I wish I could bring Putin back bitch run net. Like I'm not supposed to mention you everything I guess. Here's the thing. And then if I mentioned you every single time right and I talked about you as cloud, right? But, but that panic controls everything and they're not doing anything to enhance his legacy. Why am I upholding something that his own flesh and blood is not doing for him? Like I'm gonna yell you out all the time. And y'all don't say or do anything the only time you don't have time it seems like when the fan when everything comes out of his mouth about point is that and that's the fucked up part. It's never about point it's about Joe jerked us Jodan take care of us. We was homeless. They never talked about his legacy and what he did at the time and what it meant, like how well you were living when he was alive.

Jeff:

The other thing too that Joe's about the fucked up shit. Another thing too, that Joe was saying that he didn't like how she had put out that DVD because she had like hidden camera footage of a big pistol with him. And I remember seeing that she Yeah, he has videos and she talked about how she was abused. And how you beat the kids. So the Fat Joe didn't like that either. You know what I'm saying? The fact that he was you know, he was like, yo, here's my brother, she dragging his name on the dirt. You know, I mean, like, you can't be trying to make money off of him, but then at the same time, you're dragging his name. So I mean, I get that as well.

Mikey:

But yeah, seems like she's, she's got I mean, like, when I've seen stuff about her and her and some of the things that she said, I mean, it seems like she's pretty unbalanced. Like, it just doesn't seem like she's someone that's like, you know, it's like Faith Evans, we can talk about Biggie and stuff and like, it seems that she, you know, Faith Evans is like a business person's right Evans is a successful artist on their own right? Pons wife just feels like she's like an aspirin for whatever she can get a hold of, you know, just like just desperate.

Anthony:

If your family to uphold your legacy, that means I got no reason to do so. Yeah, totally. But yeah, like, like, like, like, Jeff, like, God forbid, like if you pass away, like I like I want to hear about like your family, talk about your reminisce about you all the time. And I'm always like, shout him out, and so on and so forth. But it's like, he's just a terrible human being and they just, like, glad he did and never said anything. Like, why am I talking you what, like, why am I the only voice in the crowd trying to like, talk about your platitudes. And the people who are closest to you don't say anything. There's something

Jeff:

that's actually kind of the same shit. Feds always saying on the north.

Anthony:

Like, it's like, the uphold the legacy upon it's your job. You have everything. You can do anything with it. Like, like,

Jeff:

I like, I don't want to hear I don't want to have a machine behind them. So

Anthony:

don't we don't have a machine behind us. But we got a mic. Yeah.

Unknown:

We got Mike.

Anthony:

Mike and Tom,

Jeff:

tell me Yo, we're gonna talk about the opening of this universal hip hop Museum in the Bronx. After that bullshit that happened last week with hip hop with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Absolutely.

Mikey:

And that was some bullshit too. I thought and

Anthony:

the funny thing pun was not planned far. I mean, Joe with that day, Joe had to show ello and not

Jeff:

Yeah, so that's why NAS and Joe was running around together in New York. It was like yo, why do you see keep seeing pictures of them together? You know, they were together but

Anthony:

damn, man, I hear things about rap. It's about the culture. So yeah,

Jeff:

one of the one of the creators of this museum is Kurtis Blow these breaks.

Anthony:

They are I mean, it's it's important like hip hop has his own museum. It's I know it's something that's been in the works for a while but you got to do I just hate when people to try to dismiss it's almost like you know with like what r&b like people try to like disregard impact to the culture rappers influence everything in regards to music over the past. What four years

Jeff:

easy?

Anthony:

Yep, everything needs some kind of hip hop thing whatever like but we started the crossover thing we started were the key to fashion we The key to this culture. So we deserve a spotlight that two out of the people who've come before us and the people that have come in after this is well overdue

Jeff:

yeah even networks ESPN or different networks sports net where they'll hire people that have you know pulse of the culture. You know where they're Steven a or where there's Peter Rosenberg. They got him on on ESPN Radio, and they got him on the Michael k show cuz they want to get that demographic, you know what I'm saying? They want to they want to appeal to the to the hip hop community.

Anthony:

I mean, like I said, I mean, like, literally recipe, Stuart Scott, but that was the whole thing. him don't go into rat references, and all the other stuff. All that shit matters, every single bit of it. And when they see the ratings go up. They're

Jeff:

like, Huh,

Mikey:

okay. Oh, we

Anthony:

got some here. You've been had something here. He

Jeff:

said, we want to hit that up. And I wonder how much they want for them tickets though.

Anthony:

I think it's opening in a couple years, though. They still like did. You saw what? We were just bringing

Jeff:

my shit like that. You know, like pre order tickets now some shit.

Mikey:

Oh, yeah. But isn't it? I mean, isn't there? It's like a pop up for right now, I think. Right? Yeah, I think it's like, it's a temporary thing until December, and then they're gonna have something more permanent. I mean, it's, you know, it's crazy. And like, you know, obviously, there's like, so many elements like that, that we haven't respected hip hop culture, and the way that it's influenced just like you're talking about, like commercials. And so, you know, all popular media is influenced by hip hop culture. But there's no basis of like, you know, there isn't a museum, there isn't something permanently established to say like, you know, you talk about hip hop and people, there's a lot of people that just like don't even really think it's music, right. And everybody has won, it's all race, that there should absolutely be like a Latin music hall of fame. Just like there's a Country Music Hall if there's something about particular part of culture itself, and people have contributed to it over years, there should be some kind of place to have this representation. So people know the history of it. Just it just important, but it's all racism, right? I mean, it's all like it's all based on the fact that it's a cult, you know, it's a it's a hip hop. Hip Hop is based out of black culture. And people aren't comfortable with that. mean, people weren't comfortable with rock and roll when it was black people doing it, but then Elvis does it and suddenly it's okay. This is why I'm uncomfortable with m&m dude. It's like, like, m&ms a dope rapper, but like, Why did it have to be a white dude that like that brought hip hop to like the masses, right? You got

Jeff:

to X ray. That.

Mikey:

That's it. Quite I mean, yeah, and he and he would probably have a good argument for it. But you know, I don't know, man. I mean, like, I appreciate what you said about the Beastie Boys like you know it's like Beastie Boys kept the lights on at Def Jam for so long. Yeah, you know, but it was also like, you know, it's a bummer that I had to be them because it's based out of like people weren't okay with Ll people weren't okay with our kids listening to like, you know, a lot of the original artists that were black and well I mean, I mean speaking to hip hop between them make sure that we get your your top five dishes off because I

Jeff:

want to ask Mike you don't go here know who Tom McDonald actually is before you know Tom McDonald underground rap? I don't know who that is. Well, he's his underground independent like super independent literally has no label Okay, rapper. And he puts out all his songs have videos on YouTube. And they have like, like millions and millions of like followers, so he's just literally been successful that way. And he's controversial sometimes to a lot of people don't mess with him because he has like political songs Anyway, um, he just bought an m&m be okay, or I think 100,000 it was either 100,000 or I think it was 100,000 Yeah. And then he made a song over the beat and it was basically paying homage to m&m and he released it like last week but every day before before he released he would you know he made a he put out a hint that he was you know, there's like oh, and it was because the name of the song was deer slim look at it when you get a chance you're slim and then he put produced by m&m so right away everybody thought he was gonna dis m&m on it. And they were talking mad shit. So he made the song and he basically he was standing out basically, like he even did the video where he's like, stand and he's like writing to m&m writing a letter to m&m and he's, you know, paying homage pain, basically saying he paved the way for him as a white rapper bla bla bla, it wasn't like a diss track at all. But he used a beat that m&m sold, you know, an auction or something. He happened to buy it. And then he made a deer slim song, which is paying homage to Eminem over that beat. And you know, there was like, uproar about it, like, Oh, I wonder what that means. I'm gonna think it's gonna respond to that. Probably not. And I mean, because it's not a diss. And you know, he's not anybody. That's probably an m&ms radar. But I just thought you probably knew who I was just looking up now. I don't know who that talks about later.

Anthony:

Yeah. So you cut me off so you can blow him and then we got a guy which was Mike, Mike had his own list of the top five. Let's go.

Jeff:

He was salty. After he heard the episode. He started texting. I was like, Yo, I can't believe you guys went with episode nine. What you mean, bro? You wasn't even in the state. You wasn't even where you even in the country, bro.

Mikey:

Oh, yeah,

Jeff:

we can't he wasn't available. Now. We hit you you available this week to record or not let me look at my schedule. I'm gonna be on tour. I won't be available for like three weeks. We were like, well, we got to

Mikey:

go on that. I said that I was fully available two days. Like I was like, dude, I got I'm fully available Friday or Sunday or something like that. And you guys, I just didn't fit in your schedule. I get it. It's totally fine. Am I just tracks were better than yours. It's all it's all.

Jeff:

Random. She's down real quick.

Mikey:

Oh, yeah. So well, I had four of my top five were ones that you guys that you guys had. Okay. So I had all started but but the my number five was the one that was controversial for you guys. So my number five was Jay rue the damage you're playing yourself? Are you playing yourself? And then I also had the tide with comments. I used to love her.

Jeff:

I don't know I don't consider comment. I used to love her. Just because Ice Cube

Mikey:

it's loose. I know it's a loose distract. But I take it as a distract. I mean, it's a comment as

Jeff:

to who the Who's he doesn't

Mikey:

while I'm away. He shouldn't Yeah, I mean he's shitting on the way that hip hop is gone. Right? And it's and I think more I think I took it in conjunction with the verse that he did on the route song on vert on act two when he said you know her daddy would beat her eyes all puffed. Like that was a direct you know, hit on puffy but i think that i mean do you think you're playing yourself as a distract? Yeah, I do too. I mean it uses the June you know the junior mafia be because that

Jeff:

was that was common back then to this people over they own beats to Sure. And I love that shit.

Mikey:

I thought that was a great version of it. Alright, so

Jeff:

that was my number five. That's fair. And then number four was no Vaseline. And that was that was Anthony's Nice one, wasn't it? That was one of my honorable mentions. But that was Anthony's number one.

Mikey:

And the reason I ant picked it i think is the reason that I mean has to be in there because it was like it was groundbreaking when it came out. I mean it was like that and ice cube is one of the best fucking lyricist best writers out there and literally in internet accomplish the best part of the entire movie. Oh, by a longshot like so good. Number three bridges over. I mean, BDP it's like it's got to be a thing. Number two is ether. And then number one was river strikes back and that was my number two. Choice back.

Jeff:

Yeah. Because ether

Mikey:

was my number one I just feel like when that when the cannabis and lol thing was happening it was so I don't know it was fucking awesome and then I just love that like lol came back with line for line like cannabis is tracked as one and I was like oof I don't know if I was gonna be able to really do this and then he came back and my favorite one is as cannabis he and understanding this because

Jeff:

he basically just answered literally line for line everything that cannabis was saying because cannabis was like, you know, 99% of his fans were high heels. Right? He was like, Well 90% of your fans don't even exist. I'm saying he went but he went out mike tyson he went out why flat one there?

Mikey:

Yeah, tell me the things earby taught you and then cannabis went and joined the army. Very Yeah,

Jeff:

I told you I bumped into cannabis on Time Square. Meanwhile, he was walking around away a couple years ago we walking around Times Square, like we used to do just bullshit you know, like a New York day type of shit. You know? I mean, and I see this dude and he you know his cannabis and he I don't know if it's his homeboy or his manager or his agent, whatever, walking around with a big sign that says you know, come take a picture with cannabis whatever, for whatever amount of money they were trying to sell and I'm like, Oh shit, it's cannabis. I'm like get the hell out is broke as he walked around Time Square trying to ask people to take a picture with it.

Anthony:

Oh, wait stop stop so he was doing the whole take a picture with Superman like Spider Man is the Rambo

Jeff:

geez I'm thirsty to cannabis the rapper for you know whatever it was $10 or something

Mikey:

that's that's sad.

Anthony:

I was like get the hell out of here bro. Like when you get to that point yeah, just get a real job just get a real job get an applicant even

Jeff:

his name is cannabis get into the cannabis industry bro

Mikey:

Yeah, how is he not licenses name to some some fucking strain of edibles. Like that.

Anthony:

got its name because its name is basic. It sounds too much like the actual claim right? Like Okay, so this is cannabis What's this? Like?

Jeff:

I can't even Copyright The name like that but

Anthony:

but it's Can I buy so you want to me smoke some shit called Can I bust? Nah, I'm cool. Let me get there. Hey. Oh,

Mikey:

that's sad. Dude, that makes me that makes it all at once. It makes me want to send him a check for like $12 but then I also just want to say bro just get a job. Like just doing anything.

Anthony:

I'm a fan of 20,000 Dogecoin sort of

Jeff:

got your cannabis I just hold on to that for a few more years it might be worth so

Anthony:

hold on just a text.

Mikey:

I'm gonna text Joey crack about it and be like Hey Joe, could you just like send cannabis like 1000 bucks but then like also just give him a job as like your poor boy or something.

Anthony:

Yo in the sudden a GoFundMe for cannabis man I quit. No, I'm out. It's gone too far like podcasting raises $10,000 for cannabis like oh La Liga 10,000

Mikey:

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, you can filter the filter the money through the cultures Venmo account and yeah, just send it to send it to Jeff. And they'll they'll send it to cannabis they'll go find in in Time Square. He's the dude that's dressed as as my personal

Jeff:

you know, some form of cannabis.

Anthony:

Go five, five minute Brock's washing cars. Tim Have a good day. Magoo and cannabis carwash admin, whatever the fuck you wanna call it? Oh no, you

Mikey:

call it washed up rappers carwash?

Anthony:

Oh, the wash the

Jeff:

wash.

Anthony:

Yo, stop stop Yeah, we gotta end this podcast we just given it we just given away money right now it's a good idea, dude. The washed out with a wash up the wash. Like Yeah, what do you want your car buff by Magoo,

Jeff:

cannabis. Check this out. There's a better one. When you drive up to the car you get to pick your old washed up rapper. Like Who do you want this time? You want a gu cannabis? Or you know pick a third one? Which one you want? Cool snow

Mikey:

snow will come

Anthony:

want your car? I'd be mad. I'll be mad. That was just a great great idea. We fucked up the money but we

Mikey:

like yes i want i would like to das effects detail.

Anthony:

We started off with suds and buds and we ended it with the wash like we just

Mikey:

give away cash.

Anthony:

We have to end this podcast now because some shit money. Oh yeah. somebody's getting the phone but yo cannabis how much it costs to get to do the shit 15 hours. done what you Wait, wait, wait, wait, you mean an hour? Oh, 15 total. I just want to do I'm a male your EZ Pass card so we can get you on a train me.

Mikey:

Just hold on. I'm just gonna call the loonies and drew down real quick. I'm on board.

Jeff:

At the end when they ask you what set you want. They want to spray the smell in your car. What's that? Let me get that chronic cool breeze please.

Mikey:

actually cool breeze from fucking Atlanta

Anthony:

I got time but my name on it and every and every carwash comes with a free mixtape

Jeff:

from like a local local artists that nobody's ever heard of

Anthony:

a local rapper from from from Shine just just just just this just play we go into the machine Don't worry about it

Mikey:

it's okay just to he'll feel better about it if you play

Jeff:

10 car washes you get a free mixtape hold on to it because one of these guys and these tapes might become famous one day and it's gonna be worth yeah

Anthony:

but you're like oh like I'll never know or like after every like after you can wash like like you get to do like a track one of the watch that you get if you get a free bird while you're waiting Yeah, like the shocker will come and do a verse with you.

Jeff:

Whatever happened?

Mikey:

Nothing good.

Anthony:

Jesus. His brother hold him down.

Mikey:

He's like, dude, you can go in you can live in little Romeo's little Playhouse and drive his Yeah, his fake little Rolls Royce.

Anthony:

I'm like, you know, right now, if Romeo and bow do a versus mo versus forever. Oh, they're definitely gonna do one right? If they do a versus mo versus forever. Yeah, I'm off. I swear. I swear to Christ. I would never I'd love to hear another verses again. But Yo,

Jeff:

but Yo, um, are we gonna talk about

Mikey:

Oh, Paul Mooney dude. I was a sad one

Jeff:

that a lot of people didn't clock. Like I wasn't really I'm not gonna say I was a fan of Mooney and I but I heard he wrote for a lot of people didn't he write for like Eddie Murphy and all types of like,

Anthony:

great. So yeah, I'm gonna get on with my dog. How do you say he wrote for Richard Pryor right for rich? Oh,

Mikey:

yeah. Shit. Yeah. One of his main writers main

Anthony:

his main guy. He was Richard Pryor.

Jeff:

Okay, so check this out. Okay, so when so when Richard Pryor is saying like all the gay jokes. Is that Mooney writing

Anthony:

the Shifu he's one of the people. Yeah.

Jeff:

Um, yeah, my only Paul Mooney story that I have is one time wifey went to a comedy club. I wasn't dead this time. But she told me the story cuz she went like way one of her sisters to the comedy club. And she gets up while Paul mornings performing. You know, you can't get up. You're not I'm saying that, you know, but she got up. She had to go to the bathroom or whatever. So as she's walking away, Paul Mooney stops his shit. to shout her out. And he's like, Hey, Hey, who's that girl with the fat ass right there? Why are you walking away? She was like, so embarrassed. And she like looked back. And she's like, God dammit. I'm like, baby, you should have waited till he was done and then go to bed. You can't get up in the middle of a set. You know what I mean? You know, they go make fun of you. Especially that girl walking away. She has a fat ass and I was like, Well, you know, she gave you a compliment. I take that as a compliment.

Anthony:

We're in this right here. Thank you. Thanks. We appreciate you. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for patients for listening. Yo, oh my god. I just oh shit.

Jeff:

Yo, Peace out yo. Peace. To kick Detroit to the young black smoke assess drinking beer. And I'm trying to hear what they got accepted. Calla dolla bill. dolla dolla bill.