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Aug. 29, 2022

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Cancel Culture

The Culture managed to get FN Meka, and the racism behind it, cancelled. Will the student loan relief make you vote for a second Biden term? Will Trump run the country from jail? And why does Anthony hate The Lion King? The guys also go over this week's new music.

Topics Discussed:

  • Diamond D's new album The Rearview
  • Roc Marciano and Alchemist's new album The Elephant Man's Bones
  • JID's new album The Forever Story
  • DJ Khaled's new album God Did
  • AI rapper FN Meka cancelled after only 1 week
  • Rappers that sound like Lil Wayne
  • Sons of rappers that are better than their dad
  • Biden providing student loan debt relief
  • Why is The Lion King white?
  • Vanessa Bryant wins lawsuit

Referenced Links:
Joe Coscarelli on Twitter: "breaking: Capitol Records “has severed ties” with the A.I. rapper FN Meka, “effective immediately,” following days of backlash over the caricature the activist group @industryblkout called for a formal public apology about two hours ago https://t.co/arkL2OkTjv https://t.co/BjfjLDfpMO" / Twitter

Voice Behind Virtual Rapper FN Meka Claims Creators 'Ghosted' Him - XXL (xxlmag.com)

FACT SHEET: President Biden Announces Student Loan Relief for Borrowers Who Need It Most - The White House

Vanessa Bryant reportedly donating $16 million lawsuit payout to sports foundation - CBS News

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Transcript
Anthony:

Yo, what up, man? Fuck your life about my 98 Gotta make thoughts flowing. Ah, I miss Nas. When's it coming out with a new project?

Jeff:

He's been dropping some every year.

Anthony:

I know he comes back to hit boy again. You should. You should stay there speaking this new premier

Jeff:

a bunch of new shit dropped bro this week. I'm only going to mention the top four for me the top four projects are dropped on Friday. First of all Diamond D the rear view that shows dope

Anthony:

digging into crates yet he still got it after 30 plus years

Jeff:

I mean it's not for everybody is not going to be for the young kids.

Unknown:

Is boom bap you

Anthony:

know was it wasn't federal part of digging into crates?

Jeff DeLaRosa:

I don't know but he has a skid on there he has a skid or no he's just begun him up. Because when I saw the shit it says says you know Fat Joe Joe crack the interlude is called Joe crack. I'm like oh shit, I just got a song on and oh, he just talks. He's like if it wasn't for Diamond D we wouldn't be no Fat Joe. He was like it wouldn't be no Big Pun it wouldn't be no Remy I'm like word

Jeff:

so I guess he started off with him right he started off with

Anthony:

yeah Papa Papa Papa Papa I'm going to lower finance Diamond D Big L OC Fat Joe Buck wild showbiz and ag Dan that sounds like all star cast. Yeah, that's what it was. I remember he was all on time poor and I used to listen to all of this shit shouldn't be big. I mean, because if things fell apart like finesse diamond deals whatever like show business he had a time Buchwald had a moment Fat Joe so here no big l died like it was a lot did just you know they were they were the kings of the underground at a time trust me. goes into my Oh, she'd be blown away.

Jeff:

Then we have the rocky Marcy the rock Marcian oh and ALCHEMIST joint. The elephant man's bones. I thought that was dope.

Anthony:

You know what I appreciate? I appreciate these albums when they have one rapper and one producer. But Alchemist has done this. I think he did this with boldy James to joint with Danger Mouse and black thought. Just one producer, one rapper. You all figure this shit out. And it always turns out so good. I've never heard it. Like we just said about the nice thing just haven't hit boy take care of chip from beginning to end. It's like it's a cohesive sound. You don't worry about getting a sound from this person to sound from that person. Yada yada yada. I love it. I even like I like rock masyado he's always underrated.

Jeff:

This next album is this. This kid I'm he's growing on me now. He's starting to

Anthony:

grow up. But before that you've never heard him. I've heard of him, but

Jeff:

I wasn't really listening to I thought he's a mumble rapper, but he's not know how to really carefully listen, and he spits but he's really

Anthony:

not. You know what I'm talking about? dziadek

Jeff:

JID the Forever story that album is dope. It might be the best one that came out out of the four that I'm going to mention.

Anthony:

I'm going to agree with you you know what it is? Like southern rappers like I don't know like they don't like lyricist now.

Jeff:

But that's that's my problem when I find out oh, if you're in your 20s or if you're from the south I automatically skip you I'm like I know he's gonna be mumbling or he gonna be saying some bullshit some trap some whatever the fuck I'm not I'm not gonna like it. But then when they made me listen to him I was like yo, I fuck with him. He's not one thought he was you

Anthony:

know he's he's a really really good lyricist. You don't when you think about ocean Atlanta he probably one of them do look like one of them do so. But he damn sure don't rap like he's really really good. Like it's an album everybody should listen to because it's so clean and so tight. Like so this is just some dude from from from Atlanta Georgia. Like yeah, he rapping like this. Yes, you'd know that he don't sound like one of the migos you know sound like Gucci? I don't want to disregard Him but He doesn't sound like a typical southern rapper he can actually you know ran sound like when you put it that way they all sound like Wayne but they're they're all children of Wayne after it's like it's almost like rap for this generation is like you know how to have AD like what with an ad and with other part like no like before practice like a ad and what the fuck is that like before price after Christ ad and JD not ad to make the bridge ad Oh before crisis BC BC and AC AD and BC right so with this generation it was his BW and Aw so basically as before when and after when it's literally that order. Once Wayne comes there everyone after that? I saw a select few like Cole and Kendrick and so on so forth. They're all children when his style his flow his cadence his look, they're all bro Hey

Jeff:

man, bro. I hate when I see a rapper that that looks just like Wayne. From the fate stats to the to everything and then sounds like him too.

Anthony:

because that explains the impact they're all flexing there is before when and it's after, after him. They don't want to look like fucking Jay Z or like have waves in the hair like when he 40 years old. 56 years old, like not some cheap like this thing he got dreads he bounced around.

Jeff:

But it's not even it's not even just southern

Jeff DeLaRosa:

cat. I think it's just people signed to his label, you know who sounds like when and he's not even from the south. He's from New York.

Jeff:

Oh, Corrigan's because he signed to him, even though he never released his as well. He sounds like he's nice, too. He's nice. Nice. Yeah, but he sounds like him.

Anthony:

You can't help it because winning is so good. You can sound like Wayne. That's the whole problem. And I think that's the disconnect. You can sound like when you can't rap like them. And I think that's a lot of the the newer generation rappers having problem with y'all can look like they're kind of tattoos like him. You can kind of get his flow, whatever, but you can't. You can't wrap away like no, you just can't and God has that look. But he don't rap like, like he's he's really really good at disruption trust me.

Jeff:

Is Cory Gunz better than his father? And if so, is he the first son that's better than their father rapid

Anthony:

they both kind of universally suck.

Jeff DeLaRosa:

No, no, no, no say that. If you listen to Peter guns even today he be spitting. If you listen to Cory guns carry guns can spit, bro.

Anthony:

When the last time I checked with Peter guns, because like cheaters and shit on TV.

Jeff:

Um, say he'll, he'll do little videos with his son online and they both be going, you know, freestyling or whatever. And they'd be nice. It'd be dope.

Anthony:

But the whole thing is like, I know a lot of people who can rap for like 30 seconds. I would never listen to an album from you. Right? And Peter, the whole thing is like every, like the whole no to Uptown song. It wasn't like it was top tier rattling

Jeff:

town, baby that no, but that was just the one hit wonder shit, you know, man.

Anthony:

Right. And nothing came of it after that. It should have been more but but no one was ever going to take him seriously as a rapper because you didn't really hear no like, what you might call like, lyrical dexterity with him.

Jeff DeLaRosa:

If it wasn't for his rap shirt probably never would be going on. Tell me

Anthony:

what you took from Uptown baby. That's it.

Jeff:

They had that and it had that that silence I showed at the beginning that Spanish it

Anthony:

and that was the highlight. Then after that. Nothing one does it so weird to me. They are like,

Jeff DeLaRosa:

Yeah, but they eat you can eat forever from them. She's bro he probably still eating from Nestle.

Anthony:

Right? But it's like, I don't want to be like six years old performing a song I did 40 years ago.

Jeff:

Like, what's the weather? Like? We went to the wedding last week. Right? And it was a Spanish palace. It was a Spanish wedding. I mean, you went to last week and they played the salsa song right? And when that beginning came on, you got up and you thought it was Peter goes you're about to start jamming and some Peter guns. You're like, oh, fuck, I thought it was Peter guns. I'm like, nope.

Anthony:

Because often some somewhere right. But the thing about it's like, you get that pocket. It's like, you hear that? Come on. You know what it is? Um, some other great one hit wonders like when you hear it, you know, immediately. It's a ton. There's a ton Who let the dogs out from the bottom and who let the dogs out return to the Mac.

Unknown:

Return.

Anthony:

Whatever happens to precede me. We hear it clicks. You know that once again. You know it? Snow informer I still don't know what I was saying. But

Jeff:

he got here no informer like like a like a snitch like an informant I think yeah, he was talking about I don't know but I got a remix with like Daddy Yankee and Shin span

Anthony:

but but it's informative since somebody I like your boom boom, they're like wait, oh, love. pause pause what? What kind of what you're informing on brother. I don't I don't know these these problems you haven't. Who? Who snitching like Oh man you want to get out do you gotta look masks like oh la pull up to be free? Yeah. Be free. Guy look my ass like, oh, no, if I want to do that, what? Like, how long? How long? Like, is it lick? Or is it like I gotta like really get in there. Like I really got to be in faith as in like the luck.

Jeff:

This reminded me I recently came stumbled upon a an old interview with Prince on YouTube. And he was taught they asked him about because he was supposed to be in the Michael Jackson bad video right? And he was like, what happened? And why you why you ain't do the video. He was like, Come on, man. The very first lyrics on your buddy's mind. He was like, Nah, I'm not doing it man. I'm not gonna be one of those cronies in the background of a Michael Jackson video. And obviously, you know, they had their own traumas that we still don't even really know about but they're trying to be no extra. He wasn't trying to be no extra in a Michael Jackson video talking about your buddy's mind.

Anthony:

What prints look like Bing Bing aside dude and Michael J Same principle I what? I will take up these these four inch boots and beat the shit out of you. You know he was five foot three little fella little fucking guy, but the whole thing like Prince has never liked that Prince. Like whenever we thought printing the video you had some lined up like if I'm bad with prints so to think that he goes up Michael video and just like oh yeah, I'm just gonna be the bad guy.

Jeff:

She we got sidetracked. Let's go back to we got sidetracked from the sidetrack so let me finish the first sidetrack. Is Corey guns better than his father? Because I want to get into these sons that are alright, what about Chris rivers is

Anthony:

he's better than his father. Absolutely not. Okay,

Jeff:

what about

Anthony:

Eazy? E little easy. Is he better than

Jeff:

his father? Hell no.

Jeff DeLaRosa:

Again, does he write his own lyrics?

Anthony:

But he looks like his father but don't like his father. Fax back. Back be like his father.

Jeff:

What about little ODB? You know, just like his pops to

Anthony:

it because that's his child. It's supposed to sound like I always try to explain the shit that people genius and talent does is not inherited. Right? You can inherit you can inherit height. You inherit weight, you inherit looks but genius and talent is some of that's God given greatness. Right? Like, do we had a conversation about Lebron James? Oh, his son. Right, brawny is the son. But Brian is like six, three. Bryce has a younger brother. Bryce is 15 He's already six six. Like the heights are you there with him? But both of those guys they might be NBA players but they're doomed to fail because they're not gonna be in comparison to their father. It just won't work. Right?

Jeff:

Because like Michael Jordan, he got kids none of them playing like fuck that.

Anthony:

It's a lot of pressure. Like imagine like you know, like a summer league and you played against Michael Jordan kid, everybody coming after you know did like oh, are you Mike? Are you Mike Sun cutting your ass up? I think it was Marcus Marcus Jordan came in with the other brother name was. But all I know like LeBron suns like brawny is six, three. Bryce's younger Bryce are ready, six, six. But I don't know if they'll be able to fill out or they'll have that kind of ability. So it's like what rapping. rapping is basically putting words together. It's a particular talent to really make it poetic to make it like stick in people's minds. Just because like you could. We both grew up around rap. Neither one of us are rappers we've heard 1000s upon 1000s of reps, different flows, techniques, styles, so on and so forth. But that'll make me a rapper. Like they grew up in a house or whatever the person performing rap. I'm pretty certain that like, you know, Oh, someone's just walking around wrapping around the house, like,

Jeff:

probably the only person or athlete that I can think of that probably has lived up to their father's potential is Laila Ali. And it's probably because she inherited his height, or you know, his size. You know, she was just bigger than all the other women that they could put in the ring with her. So it was unfair.

Anthony:

The physical advantage, not a talent advantage. Like you're right. The only funds that superseded well. I mean, Steph supersede his father. What Yeah, yeah, he did, Steph. Steph to proceed as Father Klay Thompson superseded his dad. I think that's probably about it. That comes to mind. Right? That was Michael Thompson. Clay is probably better at him stuff. Definitely better than that. You got to shoot. But the thing is that he got the shooting gene from him like your dad's a great shooter. He's gonna teach you how to shoot great like, a great shooter to

Jeff:

not only that his father didn't play in an era where you were just shooting Number three's. So who would have we don't know how his dad would have fared in this era. Oh, he's just shooting 20 threes a game

Anthony:

he? Probably he probably gave me 20 points a game easy. That's what I'm saying back then you're only shooting two three threes a game? Because they'll can't even jump but that jump was wet. It was it's definitely the same fruit but he's just shorter is the same shot.

Jeff:

That's why I tell people like you know, Jordan averaged 30 points and never shot threes. You know, I'm saying that's the craziest part to me. In this era, Jordan would have perfected the three he would have been shooting or he would have been averaging like 40 points, bro. I feel he shot no threes. I'm telling

Anthony:

people right now like if you get a chance, like just go to YouTube and Google like, like Michael Jordan's like games. There's no wasted motion. You know how like mellow gets the rock and he's like Jeff said Jeff said moved also the ship. Mike is like one move go. It's like it's it's beautiful. It's amazing to that shit. Because like no one could stop it like he there was no hesitation like he would catch a quick spin. He's right to the basket or quick jab said pull up. Like it's always like that. Like, but at the flip. You always complained about the Kobe thing and I'm like, I've always wondered was it was cool. How, like, what Kobe played for what 19 years like of how many of those years was he actually the best player in the NBA. And I think it's a lot shorter than people Think but people love Kobe, but they don't want to admit that because he played the same. He played his early years as trash.

Jeff:

He played in the early years and we still had Jordan. He played with LeBron and LeBron era. He played you know, Stanley Iverson McGrady Vince Carter, it was a lot of guys that year could have been considered the best, you know, for that year.

Anthony:

I think it's just literally that that arrow like that Tim Duncan, LeBron James error, like that little yield the best player for quality of his career over 90 years, maybe like three of them. I mean, I mean, it's kind of blasphemous to say, but I mean, I think

Jeff:

that I think the fact that you can even have this discussion automatically eliminates it from the greatest of all time, because there's nobody during the Jordan era that you could say was better than Jordan. Every year that Jordan played, he was the best player on the fucking court.

Anthony:

There was. There was a lot of good guys, but there was no one better. The only reason Jordan didn't win MVP all the time is because it was brought on by sports Freitas in their paddock, just about to give it to shoot the Karl Malone there were guys as as close to as good as him. But none like superior. Like Hakeem was for a while. Barkley was that one year Malone was that one year Robinson, for you. What do you think about the ship? Are you the best player in the league? Like no, you're not good, but not the best during the growth period.

Jeff:

Alright, we started track. Let's go back man. Finishing these new albums that came out. This last one? Yeah, no, but it's the most mainstream one. So we got to mention it. And I got some the new DJ Kalisha God did,

Anthony:

do they. God tried. God. Yo, God tried.

Jeff:

Tell me why is why is there a song with Kanye and Eminem? And Eminem is rapping about fucking God, Jesus Christ, like the shit is so weird to me. I don't want to hear the rapping about God.

Anthony:

What's the name of the song? Song about God? Let me just write it's Kanye song that was on his last album and Kyla said he wanted to do a remix Tony put Eminem on it. And Eminem was talking about

Unknown:

Eminem. What faith?

Anthony:

Do you listened to the fucking song? Listen to it.

Jeff DeLaRosa:

I did. But come on, man. Is that what you want to hear him and I'm talking about after all the years of all the show he's been talking about.

Anthony:

Eminem is rich. And when the greatest rappers of all time he could talk about whatever the fuck he wants to.

Jeff:

It wasn't a bad song. I just found a weird. And then the other song that a lot of people were talking about is the one with Jay Z where he literally just wraps for five minutes straight. You talking about how he's a billionaire? How Kanye is a billionaire. How Reagan is a billionaire and how LeBron are billionaires.

Anthony:

It's really really great. It's it is one of his best verses ever. I'm gonna dock it a few points because quite simply, if you had the greatest rapper, or one of the greatest rappers of all time, and the upper echelon, whatever if you're giving them 16 bars, you're going to be fine if you give them at what do you expect is 80 bars of whole sraight like he's never lacking he's never given you a short verse to try to bullshit you on some. If you give them at bars and let him go off like that. Like I completely forgot that wins on the phone like Ross has like four wars

Jeff:

when it is on a weight is on a couple of these albums. He's on the callate album. And he's on what's the other homies on the on the J ID. Yeah. And he kills it in all them songs that he's on, bro. What part

Anthony:

of before when and after? When are you missing? He's just That's who he is. Like, but the thing but Khaled albums is this. I don't like Khaled albums. He comes out with all this fanfare and all this other shit and does everything else like that? And they're never really great. They never like must listens. They're like terrible mixtapes. Like, like, you got a whole bunch of names, but I'm not impressed by like, any of them. Seriously. You got j that j one was great. You had a whole thing with all these regular bougie Bonton and all them. It's okay, like so you got Dre producing on one account, you'd record so Okay,

Jeff:

yeah, Dre. That's what that's another thing I found. We're like, Yo, you got Kanye and Eminem, is produced by Dre on a Khaled album. It might be one of the only songs that Khaled and even produce.

Anthony:

I don't even know like, like, Okay, if we're being really honest about it. I don't even know if Kyle is really a good DJ. I think it's really his ability to like self promote more than anything else. And the fact that you know that he's being honest, he's DJ. And that's what made me I know it sounds silly saying that. But I mean, Cal have been doing this for a while, but no one really cared about Caleb, and once you started jumping on that, and on Instagram and doing all these stupid ass goofy dances and all this, you're amazing, you're beautiful. It's a major key and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's really great at self promotion. I don't know if he's great at this. But he's always going to get these people because of who he is. Like the last EP like, when you go through the streaming services and we look at a DJ Khaled album. There's always a jay verse in To give versus to nobody. He's always on a college project. He don't give them just to Kanye and Kanye is man. But he's always on a college album. And I'm like, he does these things. And I'm just not impressed. I mean, I haven't really been impressed by anything since. But wow, thoughts and I was impressed by that for like, like a hot minute until we play the shit to death. Outside of that is whatever. I mean, you listened to the app? Did you like it?

Jeff:

I like I said, I liked all the other albums more than that one.

Anthony:

They all give me the Diamond D ship. Yeah. Because I'm sorry, Carolyn, I'm been married for a long time. And I think this is what people what I think people get lost that. Just because you put a whole lot of like, really famous names on a record on an album, it doesn't mean that it's going to be good. Like, you got to put the disparate personalities together to put in a way that makes it work. That's why we all have policy cuts. Because different people from different places you put them and get them to work with this beat and it's like, alright, that's fine. With him. It's like I'm gonna get a bunch of famous people in the room because I've given up rapping. I forgot to beat and it sucks. I hate that like, like, I can't none of the beats are like memorable. Nothing like it catches you, you make you Bob to it. None of them. You got all these names in the world. Like I said, every time it comes out he always puts a tracklist like this is who's on the album. And I see it I'm like I really don't care like are they gonna come with the best material? Like they don't like like like the whole ship would with JC saw Ross barely on there you got when he gets to 16 J does ad then John Lydon sings for 45 seconds at the end like fuck you get Java and do the ship for stupid and so waste of time so wasted wasted his talent and they always He does this every album that's why I'm never excited to do it. But it's about a son that he's grateful now God did like God did a lot of thing gotta got done to do it this this was you and choosing your friends to do this album. And it was mid if you think is not mid understand you're entitled to your opinion for me that shit was me. Point blank period.

Jeff:

i Let's go to the topic that I really want to talk about.

Anthony:

Because last week, we've been chatting. We had nothing to do with this. You gotta think so. But go ahead, man.

Jeff:

I'm with you. So let's so last week, we talked about fn Mecca. First virtual AI rapa Correct. What I didn't know and I should have done my research because I should have my racist radar should have went up. You know, I'm saying and this could be probably an Is that racist segment you let me know. So it turns out that the FN Mecca is controlled by a white guy who repeatedly gets to say the N word in his lyrics. He's been receiving a lot of backlash from the public after securing a record deal with Capitol Records. Following all the backlash, Capitol Records dropped him from the label after just seven days. So literally a week that might be the shortest contract of all time. That might be the shortest record deal of all time, right? So then check this out. So Capitol Records severs ties with effing Mecca. After the backlash, and as an organization called into industry blackout, right. So industry blackout, you know, the folder culture there of the culture, and they deal with, you know, situations like this one. So this is what they released, they released a statement saying it actually was a letter that they sent to Capitol Records, dear Capitol Records, has come to our attention that your company has decided to partner with Factory New on signing the artificially designed rapper F and Mecca. While we applaud innovation and tech that connects listeners to music and enhances the experience. We find fault in the lack of awareness and how offensive this caricature is, by the way the character of the effing Mecca is. TOS green hair karyotype typical guy from now I guess, you know, I'm saying

Anthony:

you don't want to throw them up. I want to shuck and jive and shit from the beginning, but like I want to talk about you know, I would let you cook them and like you got to realize like, we're gonna get to it. I'll explain in a moment.

Jeff:

All right, good. So the letter goes on, enhances the experience we find fall in the lack of awareness. And how offensive this caricature is, it is a direct insult to the black community, in our culture, and amalgamation as a good word of gross stereotypes, appropriate mannerisms, appropriative mannerisms, that derived from black artists, complete with slurs infused in lyrics. This digital effigy is a careless abomination and disrespectful to real people who face real consequences in real life. For example, Gunner, a black artist, who was featured on a song with fn Mecca is currently incarcerated for rapping the same type of lyrics this robot mimics the difference is your artificial rapper will not be subjected to federal charges for such for your company to approve. This shows a serious lack of diversity and resounding amount of tone deaf leadership. This is simply unacceptable and will not be tolerated. We demand this partnership be terminated a formal public apology be issued, F and mecho removed from all platforms. Furthermore, all monies spent by Capitol Records and Factory New for this project will be allocated to charitable organizations that directly support black youth in the arts, as well as marketing budgets for black artists signed to Capitol Records, we look forward to your response and compliance. And they've released a statement and it goes, CMG has severed ties with the FN Mecca project. Effective immediately. We offer our deepest apologies to the black community for our insensitivity in signing this project without asking enough questions about equity, and the creative process behind it. We think we thank those who have reached out to us with constructive feedback. In the past couple of days, your input was invaluable. As we came to the decision to end our association with the project. I am allowed to talk before I go on.

Anthony:

Now keep going ahead and sign up these white people bullshit if you're wanting to, we have this conversation every time we keep saying that I hate white people, and I don't. But again, I bring the same point, they do the same fucking thing every single time. They make their apologies after they do some shit when it should have done this shit in the first place. This guy is basically it's digital blackface. Because remember, it's an avatar, you can make them look and sound like whatever you want, nothing stopping you. They chose to give them black skin, and the green hair and the chains and the tattoos and whatever. That wasn't like in a way we should do this or discuss with somebody that was a choice they made willingly. And once they realize this is some function and someone call them out and they stop. Because you're not paying black creatives and so on so forth. You could have made that do look and sound like whatever you want to date chose to do to shoot maybe we should every time, we'd be letting could we be letting it slide. We had a story last week, I was like, I'd let it go. I wouldn't let me bother with it. Because I'm like, it's a digital rapper. Like they've gone too far with this because now they're taking the culture and not saying like, we don't even need real artists. We don't even need the people created this. We don't need people of color. We can literally make people of color. And it's going to be okay, because these people are stupid, and they don't realize that they're being mocked. And I'm not understanding that, you know, this is a travesty of what they're doing. Pretty much anywhere in everywhere. Because we're so desperate to escape this world want to create a Metaverse where when you got to be here no more. And that's the whole thing. You go online, you can create whatever you want to you don't make things that look and sound like you. Make them look the things that you aspire to admire want to be shit like this is just dumb. Like that there was a rapper who came out of buy like, I'm suing them because I was one of the voices using him. And he never paid me. The whole point of rapid is that you need to hear voice monitors wonderful. You just chose not to pay me but you're pushing this do forward. But I cut me a check for anything after getting signed to a label and all the above. And my head my feeling heard about it. No, because like, you know what, it's not a real human being. I could talk shit about a digital avatar all I want because it ain't real. It ain't got no friends. They got no family got no soul. It's just you know, code in the keyboard. And the fact that we let it even go this far and that people thought it was a good idea. Like say the label that signed them it wasn't like you know, Def Jam playing as white as Capitol Records. said yeah, this sounds like a great idea. Remember a black digital rap was not actually really black is really created by you know, non black people. This is gonna go great man. Gonna be terrific. And they do this every single time. And as far as Oh, stay on me next about this because I'm not shooting No, no bail about this either. Fuck your apology. Like when we shouldn't did this you knew in the first place and it's going to keep happening. And I'm going to keep no state my point about it. Until you guys get the fucking point what you're never going to so I'm going to state this for the rest of my life. If you do anything regarding any minority, if half of that room isn't filled with those minorities, you should just stop whatever the fuck you're doing. Period.

Jeff:

Let's get to the dude that you mentioned. He's an underground rapper called Kyle. The hooligan never heard of him. He came forward to tell his side of the effing Mecca Saigon Instagram and the video he claimed he collaborated with the creators of the virtual rapper, but has yet to get any money for his services. And he goes I know y'all don't heard about this effing Mecca stuff. People been DMing me cow starts in the video. I've been trying to keep it quiet because I was gonna really wait till this shit blew up for real and went after them basically is like they came to me with This is shit and I was like, what I like to be the voice of it. I thought it was going to I thought it was going to be some collaboration. They promised me equity in the company percentages all this stuff. So I'm thinking okay, this is about to be some collabs something different for me. So where I can do my music and be on some AI stuff with this FM Mecca character, so everything is good. Next thing I know and worse just ghosted me use my voice use my sound use the culture and just literally just left me high and dry. I didn't get a dime off of nothing. And they got record deals all this stuff. I wasn't involved with no meetings, none of that which is fucked up. So honestly, I'm glad these they asked got canceled That's karma for they ass. And then in a follow up post, he provided evidence that he voiced a virtual rhyme about playing RAW files from 2019 Song moonwalking, and a 2020 track called Internet and he just captioned it just so you know. Y'all know that I'm not capping. Alrighty, then. So this is

Anthony:

bro, isn't that racist? Yes, it's a digital wrapper that says nigger complaining by a white dude. Yeah, and even got to say that, like, you make it, it's pretty much black. You ain't got to say that you choosing to do that. Like, oh, he should about no algorithm, I'm gonna fuck what you're talking about. I do this all the time. You know, I had not paying black creatives. Yeah, he basically created digital black people. The basic, you know how it was complaining about the generation that the problem of rappers that they kind of cut in line, that for rappers of a particular era, if you had to start from somewhere, that you had it, someone heard a tape the tape got to somebody, then you got to that somebody, then he was on radio, small radio shows, and so on and so forth. And then he was venting on a label and the label had like an a&r development kind of thing to kind of build on to power an actual artists would function. And like I said, the kids in this in this generation, kind of cutting the line where it's like, I gotta go through that it's kind of just do whatever we want to do. And just basically, SoundCloud, YouTube Tik Tok, and rapping on the right person to hear me, you know, I'm gonna deal with that I could hear I could just make money off doing the shit online for like the tic tac Instagram audience, whatever. This is even worse, because they like, they literally like fuck the middleman, there is no middleman and we're going to create the middleman. Like we don't have, we don't have to scour the internet or Scout to look, we don't have to look online to find who's the next new rapper, we can literally just build it. And if it's gotten to that point, something's going horribly wrong. This whole idea was horribly wrong. They could have had that my father look like anything. Like say you want to have like a little digital videos of this thing. It's in a fucking Rolls Royce. It's got a whole bunch of jewelry on so and so forth. And you got to kind of realize, like, you don't have to do this, this is the choices that y'all made. You're gonna put anywhere and done anything. But you made this while looking at meta avatar thing. And like, basically put on every possible stereotype you can about people of color. So again, I don't I'm not here for your apology, fuck your policy, because you guys can do this shit, again, you're gonna go into that room, and they're gonna be white males and air Crete and shit for people of color, they're gonna fuck something up, and they're gonna apologize for it, when should all start but if we're going to do anything regarding anybody of color, you need to have someone. So a few people actually have colored it just to make sure that you're gonna stay in line, because if not, you're gonna get out of pocket, which leaves a shit like this.

Jeff:

And we talked about, we've talked about canceled culture all the time. And this is one of those situations where, you know, is warranted as valid, you know, I'm saying, and I know you don't like taking credit for che and I know you're not you know, you don't. But I'm gonna take a little bit of credit of saying that we had a little something to do with this. Go ahead. Because we talked about it last week. A week later, he's fired, saying he's canceled. So I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a little bit I'm gonna I'm gonna take some credit for this shit and say that the culture and the culture as a podcast, and as a culture had a little something to do with this racist shit getting canceled?

Anthony:

Don't worry. I guess we'd have racist Ghostbusters. There's gonna be more don't just trust me that training never late some gonna have something that's gonna happen. It's going up here. And we more bullshit we gone through 100 Plus episodes of this. Half of them has been talking about racist shit. The other half we just said it just Richard going on. We don't feel like talking about it. It's literally a weekly occurrence.

Jeff:

I feel like we can rebrand our whole show and just be a racism podcast. Because there's always going to be something that's one of those things that's never gonna go away. Even when it's not overt and open like that is still subtle racism that will always exist. And I'm saying there's always a racist story for us to talk about.

Anthony:

Yeah, and that's the bad part. But that's the whole thing I wouldn't want to talk about that's, you know, that's just tax damage. Another thing it's, it's like, you could literally make a whole podcast about racism and shootings and have something and really have some The new every single week. You never have to rehash shit. Every week there's a mass shooting somewhere or there's a racist shit that's my caption online. It happens Could we talk about it forever? I wouldn't want to that's just no I really like talking about it now because it's always there. Like I don't like alright so let's focus on this week besides F a mecca thing what else is anything else racist that pop that happened this week?

Jeff:

I would have to think I'm sure

Anthony:

technically there was there was

Jeff:

I'm just been focusing on my son starting school tomorrow kindergarten I'm nervous about that shit up I hope you don't deal with racism in kindergarten but go ahead

Anthony:

let them deal with it now get out the way so you got to get a primer murli the Biden thing?

Jeff:

The student debt? Student loan forgiveness, okay.

Anthony:

Because Because student loan debt disproportionately affects people of color more than anything else. Correct. And then all of a sudden like these white politicians get on a high horse talking about you know, you take out a loan you should be the ones that pay it back. And I appreciate the White House for their pettiness because they call it out those particular ones to talk about, you know, just what had 800,000 outs for giving them PPP loan just don't have $1.2 million for giving them PPP loans to 300,000 house forgiving them. ppb like, Y'all got your loans? Yeah, I didn't pay them. She's back. Yeah, but you're jumping the high horse when, like, like to pay for high education, especially with people of color, you generally have to take out a loan, and that you get some kind of reprieve. Even people of color aren't happy about this, some people are bitching about it. Like, you know, I needed more. I wanted more like, something's better than nothing. I mean, that's essentially got pushed back to the beginning of next year. And like it stops at that point. But even that is shit like that. Like, why are you why and they're all white people. To be clear. They're all white people. They all happen to be Republican. They went right on Twitter, like the governor supposed to for giving loans taken loans supposed to pay back. My fucking use Lily did the same thing. And they forgave you. Oh, shit. I hear you bitching about it. And if you pay in the back, did I? Exactly. So you can't have it both ways. That's that's, like said it's simple reason shit like that. That happens every day. little micro aggressions that occur. Little things that happen. I mean, if you've got it, I think she'd be happy about it. If if you got $70,000 And now you only got to pay $60,000. I think she'd be happy about that, too. I think it's very difficult. A little bit off of something. Could they have done more? Yeah. I always said you should. It shouldn't have been 10. And it shouldn't have been 50. I think it should have split the difference at 25. and call it a day. But he didn't do that. Maybe they do more beyond that. But I just find it interesting. You play that NIC card right now. I thought he would hold that in his back pocket.

Jeff:

Yeah, but you know, this is going to probably, I don't know if this might actually hurt him or help him if he would have just, you know, canceled student loan debt completely. Yeah, you could put a pencil him in for another term. But this might actually hurt him. But since you brought it up, because I wasn't going to touch on the Biden, you know, providing student loan relief conversation, because, you know, some of us are probably the most of us only going to qualify for 10 G's, maybe 20 G's, but like you said, it's better than nothing. You know what I mean? But I had this conversation with a gentleman at work, Caucasian gentleman, you know, not that race has anything to do with it. But since we were talking about it, and he was upset about it. And his view was what happens to the one, you know, the ones of us that actually paid our student loans, that completely in great shape, you then saying we don't get nine, so he was angry about that, like he was on the side of you know, I don't fuck fuck the student loan forgiveness, you know, because I paid mine. So are they going to send me a check for what I paid? You know,

Unknown:

I'm saying are they? What happened to us?

Jeff:

Who paid our shit? I'm like, Yeah, well, you were fortunate enough to be able to pay it, buddy. You know, I'm saying you were blessed. You you had the resources to pay for the shit. Everybody doesn't. People pay, you know, people go to school, get these 5060 $100,000 loans. They graduate with a bachelor's, a masters, whatever. And then he can't find a job. You know what I'm saying? Especially during the pandemic, or they have to work out another job that has that an unrelated to what they study they work in at a fast food restaurant just to get by because they haven't been able to find a job in their field. And they're making ends meet and they can't pay to $80,000 or 60,000 200,000. You know, I'm saying so everybody doesn't have the privilege or isn't fortunate to be able to afford paying the ship.

Anthony:

The problem isn't with the loan. The problem is the exceedingly high costs of higher education. It shouldn't it's not why does it cost you this? I don't what I don't understand like it costs you this much. But as he like college football teams moving from conference to conference, getting billions of dollars. You don't say shit about them. And that's just a game you watch. Two and a half months out of the year. That's it. But this like, Oh man, it's called school dropout. I don't I don't see These are no CDs networks, nothing like that they don't have to broadcast games. And like said this money is going through the school is that making school cheaper? No. is buying ability to buy bigger stadiums to buy bigger school boards to buy more comfortable seats and better concessions for the people that are there. That's it does not help in higher education. The problem, like I said, the cost of education is literally too high. I think it had discussion before about your son going to kindergarten, you couldn't send them to pre K because it was too fucking expensive.

Jeff:

And I wanted I did much, right. I want him to go to daycare, but we wasn't going to pay like $20 a week for the shoe.

Anthony:

Right? Like I said, when the price of something becomes exorbitant. You can't really complain about what the end product is going to be. Because the education costs it does. But what's what I paid for college towards someone pay for college 20 years before me, Twitter played for them 20 years before them. It's like, it just it just accelerated skyrocketed, because inability to afford it like you got to take out loans and got to kind of go for like debt and like even your friend at work talking about like, I paid off my loans. I deserve something. No, you don't. Because if I paid off my loans, I wouldn't like someone's got some cool, awesome fidem. And as you know, like I say it's a dichotomy of people, like the people who complain about this. But when the government's giving out sentences check, did you return your shit? You absolutely did not. You kept that shit you like, you're like, Nah, I'm not gonna take this extra money, I can survive on my own, I'm gonna pull myself up by the bootstraps, you took their bullshit, or you want you to that money went right to your account, you did not miss it right back to the fucking federal government, you didn't do whatever you need to do with it. The people who are getting this little thing right here, for some is going to be nothing. They owe $90,000. And now they're owed at for some, they owe 1112 13 $14,000. And this will get them so much closer to get that out of their life. And they can just take that money to me put towards a house or being some kind of functioning member of society. So I get your complaints, I understand your frustrations, or so and so forth. And there's no issue with you doing what you're supposed to do. The people who have these loans, they've been trying to do what they're supposed to do. But if the prices should keep going up, and you keep putting off deferrals. And like I said, it's, you know, income, rebase payments, and so on. So it's so many different options, but still a drain on your economy, you can only do so fucking much. So for those who paid it off, I'm glad you did. Good. The people who are getting this, I'm happy for you. Hopefully they get you somewhere closer to your future than you have been. It's gonna be a good thing. I hope so. I do hope so it's a lot of money. But a 10,000 house is helping somebody it's a blessing. Fuck that, you know,

Jeff:

you know, what's the biggest scam though. Especially during the pandemic, they you know, they will tell you like, Yo, you could put a freeze on your payments, you know, I'm saying, or if you're doing hardship, you could call in and do the hardship, you know, forgiveness or whatever, it's not really a forgiveness, they just put it on hold for a while, you know, I'm saying to you get back on your feet. But guess what, the interest rates continue to accumulate. So when you're ready to start paying again, you come back and now you owe even more than what you owed before like, What the fuck is going to get you?

Anthony:

If you frozen in time, you didn't have to? Because some are they? Yeah, if you frozen in time, you didn't have to, because what we're saying is that you could make payments on whenever you're paying your loans. You were paying, it was all principal, it was no interest. So like you might have, let's say you got to turn it out a student loan but like 125 is actually the for the principal 75 is the interest if you pay 200 It's all going towards the principal. So that's what I asked when people were paying during it, pay it because you were literally decreasing it month by month by month. But people just let people in that clock run by now you got to pay to ship.

Jeff:

But if you defer it which is different than just freezing it if you defer it that interest is gonna continue to accumulate. Yeah, in the first ship. I can't pay this right now. Let me get back to you in about six months.

Anthony:

I'm paying my cool shit up a fair amount during the pandemic. I want to paint the whole thing I was like yo, you're 50 it's not going to put them anywhere here like here's 100 Here's 20 Here's 5150 But whatever extra was put towards it because it makes it it's all paying down the principal I don't know wherever the interest so I guess you had I should go I mean this the 10k should help me a bit but I'm not going to complain but I don't want to be one of them. Pete was going to pitch about something like that. Like it's a good thing. Like again, they couldn't have done jack shit. He was complaining about like, like, you know, the pandemic came during the stimulus money and I look at everything going up like this. So other other kind of competing factors that cause everything to increase wars, the shipping industry it's all fucked up. So for y'all to be like you know, they came back and they got you for what you got like my fucking they only got two G's out of that. Forget the price of eggs a dozen is like 399 they get a big got that that two G's back saying trying to hear that other shit. It just got to kind of just take what it is and come Gonna go for from here. You got the side of the way he pulled his big Joker I put on the table. I don't know why it is so early. So like I tried to figure out a way to deal with inflation, which is the next step, but we're just going to figure out how that's gonna go.

Jeff:

Real quick. Will this make you vote for him for a second term?

Anthony:

Depends on who's running Trump. Yes, I'm voting for Biden.

Jeff:

Or what about the Santas? I mean, I don't think he'll be representing the reps, but just for giggles.

Anthony:

I need to hear his politics. I might vote for his hands. But more likely, I probably vote for Biden again, and think DeSantis. And I know I want to hear as Paul says, it doesn't guarantee I'm gonna vote for DeSantis I want to hear what he's talking about. But I mean, the thing about Trump and he might be in jail, but So who the fuck knows? What if you like what if you like you're the president in new and federal prison? Like, that's just weird, man. No, we're not doing that. Fucking jailbird president would be a fucking laugh. If he's in prison and he gets elected. I'm finally another country to move to him saying that he's running the country from a jail cell and yeah, so my running the paper, they bring him a little tray with a bologna sandwich on the heat a fucking president.

Jeff:

He's Alcatraz somewhere just pressing buttons Rhenish it.

Anthony:

satellite phone call from a jail will be lights out. Come on, man. You mean to tell me that there's going to be a federal security officer telling the President when he can go to sleep. And it's fucking amazing. I'm not doing the shit. I want to a Costa Rican president. Here's your meal. It's probably in Dominican Republic fairly cheap. Yeah, it is. Okay,

Jeff:

I mean, if you're gonna pay with dollars yeah, not if you live.

Anthony:

I'm paying for Dallas man. We're gonna take your President and I'm getting the fuck out of here. Oh my god. This is ridiculous. Like come on, man. Come on. Like I learned your lesson the first time like it's years later just about to go to jail man. You're the president he's about to go to jail he just taking shit from the White House to have like Look man come by my house I'm sure about my house. I'm gonna show you a nuclear launch codes like put the fuck man on paper in your house. Able to get it shipped back like I was the president you were going to jail. Imagine going to a motherfucking house into like, a sheet of paper with a nuclear launch codes on it. I'm like, Oh, God, it just is killing me. Like it wasn't even super special. Like with some press clippings, like he could have pictures of himself in the newspaper and also there's a launch code and how we're going to destroy North Korea just just chillin like that separate just in

Jeff:

this is the letter this is the letter Putin sent me

Anthony:

Yeah, take a look at it. You know how you know how your house you have a junk drawer like with just random bullshit inside of it. So this is his junk drawer will like confidential information, confidential government secrets just just flickering through. Come on, Matt nice. No, I can't. I can't do this again. I can I could deal with a lot. I can deal with people being this stupid twice. I can't man.

Jeff:

His supporters are like, Oh, he didn't do that.

Anthony:

They got the papers mad like always people like no, this is a witch hunt. Like no man. The FBI don't read shit. Unless they are damn near 100% certain they got something. So somebody said something. And they were able to confirm a Florida extremely trustworthy source. That's why they ran down to mar a Lago. They don't do this shit back in the day the cops wouldn't keep like busting into people's houses that don't really live there. And you know, killing people like Breanna Taylor some other function. FBI is very very detailed. Same thing when they take an issue to court they don't lose they take it they're getting their their conviction rate is high as fuck. And when it got your metric bedwin Getting out so if he get out of this shit, his his base can be so lit up, they can be so happy. He can be president again. That's gotta find a new to live. That's all. dual citizenship. Never heard. Nobody would do that.

Jeff:

And there was some positive news. I mean, I'm not even sure this is considered positive news. God, Brian. I'm just saying because the fucked up situation Vanessa Bryant, widow of late great Kobe Bryant was just awarded $16 million. She won a lawsuit against the Los Angeles County after responders snapped photos and showed them to people of the grizzly helicopter crash site where Kobe and his daughter Gianna and seven others. And the pictures haven't been released to the public. But from what I've gathered, it was like a test torso. It was like one of his arms and you know, they were only able to identify him because of his tattoos. Like they find like one of his arms and you can see his tattoos and and all that Kobe, you know, saying they couldn't even identify these motherfuckers and you know what, guess they were passing these photos around and she caught wind of it. And she just won a lawsuit $60 million. So she said for life, I mean, it's fucked up. You're not gonna get your daughter back. You're not gonna get your husband back. But it's just when I guess

Anthony:

she'll, she'll set for life before that. I mean, well, yeah, financially, but you can't replace your husband and your child. Like, it's, that's, I mean, hopefully she does find love again and she gets remarried. But she's never going to like, especially when you lose somebody tragically, when it just happens in a blink of an eye, and like I said, What helicopter crashes, were plane crashes, you don't find bodies, you find parts. Because the force of it tears, literally tears, the human body parts would have gone to do that mass at that speed, it's going to happen. The fact that, you know, they had to find pieces of Kobe Bryant, they're kind of fun to identify him. Then the fact that these dudes, those are good, like people are so desperate for clout that they want to fucking take pictures of the shit like why like, unless you're the crime photographer, we have to kind of do this. Why are doing this shit and share with other people like, look? Look, look what I got the body part of Kobe Bryant is like the Trump Mar a Lago shit. Like, I just happen to have the nuclear codes and this random piece of paper in my kitchen drawer. I just happen to have this picture on my phone of Kobe Bryant's arm, or his torso, or his leg or whatever. Like there's something really morbid about that. Like, why would you want to have that or possess that? Or whatever, not just give it to the proper people. Like you're showing it off to people. Like, that's insensitive as fuck, nobody wants you to know that. That's how the last thing is someone's remember, like, the body part of my husband. That's fucked up. And they deserve every penny because I think she got 16 I think the family of the family got 15. And they deserve every 30 Something total? Yeah, yeah, it's I think she gets 16 and they get 15. But they're right. And it should be duly compensated. And I don't think money is going to bring back either one of them failed, but the whole thing. The only way to kind of hold people in power accountable is to make them pay once they start giving away enough money to kind of start like Stop fucking around with the ship because you isn't one thing they can't get back. You could try to but there's a lot of money to keep giving out for all these lawsuits and settlements, hopefully want to change some shit. But the fact that it had to come to this for for them to kind of like, realize the error of their ways. It's just to make them pay. It's kind of insane all unto itself. But more power to I'm happy that decision worked out her favor.

Jeff:

Supposedly she's donating the money in the 60 minutes to a charity that's actually named after Kobe and his daughter. So I guess that's positive.

Anthony:

Yes, you don't need it. Like she she's because of her husband's legacy. She's wealthy. But like I said, I don't need that this is for I'm gonna put this towards a good cause not good causes, you know, that foundation. And that's what it's supposed to be. They didn't under do it. They didn't. She didn't make a big deal about it. She just said this is what I'm going to do. It prompts off, and I appreciate that about her. Because a lot of people they're not trying to do that they kind of they get the sediment they don't know what kind of wash they're going to do with it. But for her it's not gonna bring back my husband just not gonna bring back my daughter. But maybe this can help someone else. That's that's the that's the good part of story. That's the icing on the cake.

Jeff:

Ella Fitzgerald said Just don't give up trying to do what you really want to do. Where there is love and inspiration. I don't think you can go wrong. Episode 108 of the culture I'm Jeff man.

Anthony:

Motherfucker I told you stop doing it.

Jeff:

You know how it is man. We in this era where you got to tell people shitting

Anthony:

it's on the title. I think Episode What do we like? What episode is it isn't a fucking show notes is at the top of read. All right, man. I appreciate y'all. Hold Stop stop stop. Stop stop. Before we cut this off. Do we say do we even call out the coach or crew?

Jeff:

We did not. We jump right into the sheets making me

Anthony:

look bad. I didn't make you look up you know you don't want to start off all the time with them like you jump right into it. So before we close Kochi crew, Jeffrey, take it away.

Jeff:

Shout out to the coach crew aka our patrons so we're gonna go we're gonna give names today what?

Anthony:

No, no, no, no, no no names. Could it mean they might have kids going back to school man Okay, how to get my head in the streets like No, no, no, I'm saying that shit that might be Oh child support.

Jeff:

So we're just gonna shout out the AKs Yes. Alex so say aka D block Helwig

Anthony:

question Did you did you like aka or BK

Jeff:

best known as I like aka better it sounds bootleg

Anthony:

but also known as better known as oh yeah ultimately

Jeff:

became used to sound bootleg like bootleg known as

Anthony:

B k sound like some pretty well you gotta be K deficiency.

Jeff:

That sounds like an Omarion r&b group or some shit.

Anthony:

That makes this Asian guys watch. It's just me a bunch of Asian dudes.

Jeff:

Shout out to Grand Kaiser Tosh

Anthony:

come through to the word a nickname for him to get his work this fancy season Kaiser

Jeff:

shout out to Mikey sheet.

Anthony:

Congratulations. That was a beautiful thing Mike had up with a 10 year whatever those cute.

Jeff:

Oh yeah him his wife right?

Anthony:

Yeah. Mike looks so young No. And like he would look like himself. Like a whole different dude. This is Mike like oh shit like a little young skinhead.

Jeff:

Shout out to Melissa. Melly Mel.

Anthony:

Now the mouse mills.

Jeff:

Mills. Because I like cows,

Anthony:

cows but males Yeah, just because he's moving up a letter.

Jeff:

And then finally shout out to Simba, The Lion King,

Anthony:

which is a terrible name, but alright. I hate that movie.

Jeff DeLaRosa:

No, what do you mean? It's one of my favorite Disney movies?

Anthony:

The Lion King? Yeah, man, you gotta you gotta Oakland name scar. You know, he bought that business man. You can't trust him about

Jeff DeLaRosa:

that. But then his father is the King Joffrey jofa.

Anthony:

With the movie the good son when Macaulay Culkin holds him like, unless you go do you think you can fly? Go ahead and be like, hey Mufasa good than it be?

Jeff:

I'm about to take this whole kingdom from your phone let

Anthony:

you go what happens I need to fill out the scan. And I appreciate scars scars like man he did. I'm gonna go back here and kill everybody

Jeff:

to take his wife I'm taking his wife I'm taking his shoes

Anthony:

home. I'm taking your wife and I'm murdering your son. They had to get him on it their scar was hood and then he dies in the fire tragically.

Jeff:

I mean we knew Mufasa was black but you think scar was black? I mean was the was the voice of scarf black. Um, I can't remember the symbol cuz symbol was not symbol was white as fuck. Yeah. He had a black father but he was he was a witch. I

Anthony:

hate Taylor Thomas, which I hated because the young symbol he was sung by Jason Weaver. He sang that shit. But after that, when he grows up, he becomes a white guy in the middle of Africa, which makes zero sense to me. And then the thing about scar is like, he has the same like, he had the same exact scar like Omar doesn't have wire. So like, alright, I get it. I just lit the whole thing about him. Just the look on his face. He always looked like like a little bit dusty, and had this big Asghar in his face. And he he never smiled. He always like like, like it was like

Jeff:

he was the only character besides the hyenas that looked at darker and I don't mean like dark like as a shade of black they were just like shadowy, right? Right everybody else is like bright Brown, bright yellow ish. And they're bright and colorful. When scar and his goons of hyenas show up they're like, all dark and shadowy. And, you know, I mean, like, he's just hiding in the dark and shit.

Anthony:

It's always like how you can always tell like, how someone's friends is like when you keep them around. Like, look at scars, friends. They're a bunch of wild hyenas that like those people. Like you don't have no like good friends that like trying to like maybe you shouldn't do this. He's got a bunch of wild dogs like yeah, you shouldn't murder everybody. He's like, yes, they like Word. Everybody gotta go we go help. I cool. Like no one was able to talk his brother couldn't talk him off the roof. You're gonna leave it to these little dusty as hyenas to kind of figure this out. That seems ridiculous to me. And it was why I hate that movie.

Jeff:

But why was symbol white though, like his parents were black. Like you had King Joffrey Joe for? And the queen. They're black. They're played by black voices. And here's Zimba he's fucking Jonathan Taylor Thomas, one of the whitest kids in the 90s blond hair, blue eyes.

Anthony:

He's an African sounds like some surfer from California. I said, all right. I'm off this movie. And people like wine stuff, man. Because like it doesn't fit. Everything about it is African, I guess in the sense of the people in whatever. But outside of that. It gets super weird. Like, okay, I know they did. They did the new Lion King was the new symbol black.

Jeff:

I think it was and then Beyonce did Nala right his girl and they still had James Earl Jones do the Father. He still did the father. I want to say that all the voices were black.

Anthony:

All the voices were black. Yeah, okay. All right. So James Earl Jones Mufasa. Donald Glover was Simba. Beyonce was Nala shooed away edgier for was scar. Timon Timon and Pumbaa white guys young symbol was black. So yeah. Okay. Like they had to do a live action version to fix with a fucked up which is weird. And that's okay. Yeah. But yeah, but like it says every political foster but Scarlett. We can't talk about Scarlet and how did this mystery to him and how? I got a whole theological question about the ship but we couldn't do it to somebody.

Jeff:

You think that she was racist?

Anthony:

What would the Lion King Yeah, no, I think that Scott I was like, you know, an idea of how people are mistreated and like the after effects of what occurs especially with him. Like they like that's my brother right? They kicked us out they kick him out the pride they got the guy living in the wasteland Ain't nobody there is some dumb shit some function of course man come and kill everybody nearby looking at scar crazy Yeah, I suppose to be part of the family. Y'all set me up Fuck y'all.

Jeff:

And his homeboys is the ops two he's fucking with the high end. Yeah, they the ops they

Anthony:

they're the only ones that would accept me and I'm rolling with them because my own brother disallowed me. He's gonna kick me out the pride, then I kicked his ass off a roof. Bye

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